What do you wish you could like?

Serious answer: I wish I could like more classical, I have some amazing Sibelius stuff, but I have no idea where to start.

For me, I wish I could learn to appreciate more electronic music. You know, that IDM type stuff, bleeps and buzzes and glitches, I wish I could appreciate that more.

I wish I could enjoy more of the canon and at the same time more obscure music. Fr'instance, Bowie, MBV, Beatles, VU, Joy Division, more glitch like Jalinek and V. Delay, Dead Can Dance, the Cocteau's Victorialand, the second half of Supermodified, more of Plaid's Trainer, et cetera.

I actually just read this as "Lick I Love You," which strikes me as far superior.

In my case, probably old blues and generally speaking music from the twenties and beforehand, as well as most Jamaican music from the sixties on. In non-English language terms, Spanish-language rock from South America from the last twenty years.

I wish I liked dub more too - I love the idea of dub.

either that or try the best type of music evah!!! that's guitars and saxophone played in a 'free' type way. try borbetomagus or the blue humans.

(OK not 'the best' but its pretty good if you laready enjoy guitars and can't get into listening to saxophones)

Seriously, I agree with this shithead. I like voices. Can't do without them. It'd be like having a bowl of sauce.

b) Dub. I like some of it, and I hear its influence on many of my favorite postpunk records (the early RT artists were all heavily influenced), but even Lee Perry's Arkology left me going "eh...it's OK...there are a few good songs, I guess..."

I also wish I appreciated old C&W/Bluegrass more. I like it, I just never really seek it out and I can't tell what's good and what's not.

I've given up on ever really liking jazz that's not free.

you might like the jazz/rock/ art/electronic music of both Carla Bley and husband Michael Mantler -- they each cut interesting complimentary careers in one of the earliest "alternative music" organisation, distribution and composition schemes, starting from around '65 in nyc -- they also hung around with some of the more interesting rock stars and their families from that time

A fine starting point.

arabian or indian classical music -- the music itself is fine, but that singing!

I want to like Fugazi more. I started with the "Margin Walker" EP, which is excellent but I've never really got into the other records. People love them so much and they seem like a really noble thing to like and they always sound interesting and worthwhile but I'm always mystified when people talk about how much they love the band. I also really want to love Guns 'n' Roses. I wish that listening to people like Bob Dylan or Neil Young or Leonard Cohen or Lou Reed didn't feel like being a kid and having your parents drag you to the temple of Greil Marcus for a really long service early in the morning. At least the first couple of those guys have at least one or two songs I appreciate but still.

the Pixies didn't quite sound too american desert and Stereolab not completely european enough to ruin it, but that's me -- i hate hot jazz, hot latin music, and pop music with 1/4 or 1/1 single beats (like disco and pop music like that kylie #1) which again sounds like it has this enforced heat -- often it's too fast to be credible (like a marching beat)

and ditto to Leonard Cohen. why would anyone want to willingly listen to such a pretentious horny old goat? only good thing about mr. cohen: Ween's superimposing a picture of one of themselves on his head for their Pod cover.

ditto charlie parker.

anyone want to recommend a foot in the door here re: reiisues/remasters?

elsewhere...anticon/mush/etc. Dose one is straight up torturous.

While there is a definite gender bias re: IDM, I was actually referring to a more generalized elitism common to us IDM folk, that is, if you can't get into it, you're obviously not worthy of listening to it and so go away.

With something like IDM, I get the feeling that I would like it if I understood more of what it was on about, what to listen to in it, what to appreciate, what artists have more of what I love in music.

it's like... the other night at Non/Sense, someone (Ambrose's brother actually) took the time to sit down and explain Drum N Bass to me in a way which made sense. I was able to intellectually appreciate, and even emotionally enjoy the music in a way that it wouldn't have made sense otherwise. Some music requires an intellectual understanding as well as a gut-reaction. Some more extreme examples of dronerock, I had to learn *how* to like. I wish that I could learn that with regard to more electronic music.

I think I would most like to like the blues, jazz and [European] classical music, plus Indian classical. In general, I like the idea of liking the roots of the music I do enjoy, but I'm not actually real big on the blues or gospel music, which both feed into R&B obviously. Otherwise, I guess it would be nice to like more contemporary pop music of some sort.

I am tempted to say I would like to like everything, but would I really? The thought is slightly nauseating.

Early Power Pop- since it has influenced so many of the bands I really like, but I cant, just cant get into it- it sounds too dated.

I was very pleased this summer when I played some Oum Kalthoum for a salsa friend with a solid background in music in general and she immediately was able to hear (possibly better than me) the precision with which her voice was leaping to hit certain microtones.

I also totally agree with the point that this singing seems far more "natural" than the operatic voice (which I don't enjoy).

Oh my God, I know who I want to like - Will Oldham. Fuck, everyone I know likes Baldham, but I can't dig him, no matter what. I've tried everything and am now contemplating hypnotherapy as the way forwards.

Right now I want to like the Eighties Matchbox boys but I saw them yet again on the weekend and as ever they left me inexplicably disappointed.

Tad, I think my ability to hear order in Arabic singing may be due to having internalized (at some level I would find impossible to articulate) expectations of what various maqam or modes sound like. If the vocal music is such a turn-off, you might want to try listening to a good oud soloist (I'd recommend Riad el-Sounbatti). It might be possible to "transfer" expectations learned from listening to oud solos, to listening to vocal music.

mark s: Really? When I make a point of hating things, I usually find that I find similarities to hated objects in so many other things and end up hating a lot. When I start looking for similarities with things I already like, I end up liking more.

that makes sense i think.

mark- is Coltrane yr 'hate object' for jazz?

Life would be so much cheaper and convenient.