Simon & Garfunkel's BOOKENDS - Classic or Dud?

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Not an ILM fave by a long stretch, it seems. Always remember being slightly surprised by the uncharacteristicly discordant and "rockin'" opening track, "Save the Life of My Child," along with the overall dark and maudlin themes of the record. Sure, there are brief upbeat moments like "At the Zoo," but the most part this album is as cheery as the Spanish Inquisition.

Your thoughts?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm sorry, but classic any day of the week. If only for Mrs Robinson, the title track, and that fanstic dead people talking bit - brilliant.

And lets not forget America, probably the best song in the world.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 15:38 (twenty-three years ago)

classic, big fan of all things simon and garfunkel.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)

classic-o. and funny for anyone who's seen 'almost famous'.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I loved "At the Zoo" as a kiddo. Then they made a children's book out of it later, but they had to change some of the lines. They kept "The zookeeper is very fond of rum" but they had a drawing of a groundhog or something with the nametag "Rum" to change the meaning. I don't remember the other line they had to change.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)

probably the "hamsters turn on frequently" line, I would guess...

I like this album, but it's more of a sentimental sort of fondness than anything else - the kind of thing my mom would play on a rainy day when I was a kid. It is super maudlin, and I think there's a number of neat production touches on it.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:36 (twenty-three years ago)

BOOKENDS was introduced to me as a child in the late 70's via a 7th Grade teacher (a recovering hipster folkie, one assumes) who decided to play it at the class for some long-since forgotten reason. At the time, I doubt I was listening to anything outside of Kiss, the Ramones and...er...Pink Floyd's THE WALL, but remember my parents often playing Simon & Garfunkel, so I was pleasantly surprised by the creepier aspects of this record (the mumuring voices of the old folks, the discordant orchestral malaise in "Old Friends," the afore-mentioned suicide tale -- set to a loping bass rhythmn -- of "Save the Life of My Child," the strange, cacophonous 'crowd noises' in same), which reminded me both of all the Beatles records I'd mercilessly played backwards to unearth any remaining "Paul is Dead" tidbits and more bizarre aspects of Pink Floyd that I was beginning to hear (ala "Careful With That Axe, Eugene," which to my very young ears was pretty terrifying in the most exillerating way). Still, as far as I was concerned, Simon & Garfunkel couldn't have been a further light-year away from anyone I was considering "cool" at the time (Gene Simmons, Johnny Ramone and...er..Brian May, probably), so I think I buried the record in the back of my collection as if it was some security blanket that I should've outgrown that I wanted to hide from my peers. To this day, however, it still exudes a chilly, wintery grace and a slight aftertaste of impending gloom.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:02 (twenty-three years ago)

punkys dilemma is the shiznit.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)

"Bookends" is a fantastic record from end to end, definitely my fave S&G record (but that's not really saying much as everything else they did simply isnt as good), and the production is classy and lovely and subtle too - whereas other contemporary CBS releases sound a little over the top (I'm thinking of the Millennium album for some reason) this keeps everything on the edge of experimental but tuneful too. Roy Halee should be revered as much as Curt Boettcher in my opinion, as they were both production visionaries.

And that Moog on "Save the life of my child" scared the poo out of me as a kid. I love the way it sounds like it was recorded down in an underground car park - a sound I never heard again until "Automobile noise" by the Blue Nile.

As an aside, the original versions of "Hazy shade of winter" and "At the zoo" were radically different on the singles - have these ever been issued on CD at any point?

Rob M (Rob M), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

For my money, Bookends is the weirdest and most interesting S&G record.

It's so varied ... psychadelic bits, old people's voices, the proto-electro punk of Save the Life of My Child, Mrs. Robinson, beautiful melancholy of Old Friends.

It's a masterpiece.

phil jones (interstar), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:27 (twenty-three years ago)

"the proto-electro punk of 'Save the Life of My Child'"

Not *QUITE* sure that's accurate, but I like the sound of it. If memory serves, doesn't the bass intro (after the Moog burst) of "Save the Life..." sound quite familiar to the bass intro of "100,000 Years" by those fellow New Yorkers in Kiss?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Ok, I'm exagerating ... but it's leading in that direction.

Actually no-one's mentioned "Fakin' It" yet which is another classic off Bookends. I always wanted to hear an early 80s style synth pop cover of that. Wonder if it's possible to do it now, electroclash styleee

phil jones (interstar), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
WHOA! LIKE WTF, DUDEZ(*&^%$#

So anyway, I finally brought myself to buying an S&G album, seeing as they were going for real cheap at the shop, and I figured whut the heck, right? I picked Bookends since it seemed the rightfully hip choice and most importantly, MY DUTY! So I love how it can be alternately silly and dark, and all, very mellah. It's just a beautiful record that combines (some of) the best aspects of the VU, the Beatles, Dylan, and Brian Wilson's work. Old Friends seems to particularly haunt me these days, along with America. And it's short, which makes it even better in my book, of course.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 1 February 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Absolutely and undisputedly classic. So much better than "Bridge Over Troubled Water".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 1 February 2004 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

we're all agreed then! thread closed.

paulhw (paulhw), Monday, 2 February 2004 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Just dropping in to concur...I think this album is great.

"Save the Life of My Child" is incredible stuff.
Deceptively dark album.

I'm a hip hop fan who digs simon and garfunkel - my street cred is shot yo.

(i have to say I'm surprised by how many people on here dig this album!)

djdee2005, Monday, 2 February 2004 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

"'Save the Life of My Child' is incredible stuff."

Man. The Moog intro totally makes that fucking song. Sounds like something outta Wendy Carlos' score for ACO. Eerie.


Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Monday, 2 February 2004 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The song "Overs" with no real structure and a really spontaneous feel is the one I love on the first "concept" side of this album....but its all good.
Paul Simon, on his day, could write a fucking amazing broken-heart ballad of a disintegrating relationship like nobodys business. "Hearts and Bones" to thread.....

David Nolan (David N.), Monday, 2 February 2004 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I ALMOST bought this CD last time out. I have it on vinyl and haven't listened to it for many years. So I walked around the store with it for a while and then picked up The Doors "Bright Midnight / Live in America" No regrets...

jim wentworth (wench), Monday, 2 February 2004 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

beautiful stuff. magical, mysterioous, dark and who said folk was dull?
"but look at them, they're high!"

queen G-arf Unkle, Monday, 2 February 2004 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

I dig most of this especially America and At the Zoo. Also, much love for Hazy Shade of Winter, which invents Belle and Sebastian. The bonus tracks are cool too, You Don't Know Where Your Interest Lies and the stripped-down Old Friends (really can hear those nice chord changes).

"Punky's Dilemma," OTOH, yikes! Paul must have smoked some shitty green before writing that one.

ColinO, Friday, 5 June 2009 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

Punky's Dilemma is the best song on the album and I voted for it in the poll

Kitchen Paper Towel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 June 2009 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

at least, I coulda sworn there was a poll for this album... hmmm can't find it

Kitchen Paper Towel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 June 2009 19:58 (seventeen years ago)

POLL: The Essential Paul Simon & Art Garfunkel

Maybe

Alba, Friday, 5 June 2009 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

There was a poll for this; I think "America" won. Who knows what horrible title the poll was conducted under.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 5 June 2009 20:30 (seventeen years ago)

Found it:

Voices Of Poll People - The Bookends Poll

EZ Snappin, Friday, 5 June 2009 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

I just can't take the lyrics to Punky's Dileema, they ruin an otherwise good song.

ColinO, Friday, 5 June 2009 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

Nobody likes "Fakin It"??

I'm Some Guy (u s steel), Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:53 (seventeen years ago)

The transition from "Bookends" into "Somebody Save the Life of my Child" is jarring and scary. Aside from that, a great album.

Jesus Christ, Attorney at Law (res), Saturday, 6 June 2009 17:14 (seventeen years ago)

Would be nice to see an ILM cage match between this and Tusk.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 6 June 2009 18:28 (seventeen years ago)

The lyrics to "Punky's Dilemma" are brilliant.

bamcquern, Saturday, 6 June 2009 18:43 (seventeen years ago)

The transition from "Bookends" into "Somebody Save the Life of my Child" is jarring and scary. Aside from that, a great album.

It's supposed to be scary. And it's brilliant.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 6 June 2009 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

why is it supposed to be scary?

Jesus Christ, Attorney at Law (res), Saturday, 6 June 2009 19:51 (seventeen years ago)

Man, it wasn't scary so much as WTF, and in a really awesome, fun way.

Plus "Save the Life" is a damn damn damn good song.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 7 June 2009 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

Bookends is absolutely classic in my book. When your talking about classic songwriting, Simon and Dylan were on incredible runs right up to the mid-seventies. I love the cover head shots too, very severe and classical. I'll bet Peter Saville has that same record cover.

leavethecapital, Monday, 8 June 2009 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

"bookends" is great, but i prefer s&g at their most reverbed and arboreal folkie. listened to "parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme" today and oh my god what an album.

samosa gibreel, Monday, 8 June 2009 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

Bought this album yesterday after getting & enjoying 'Bridge Over Troubled Water' a week or so ago, and it's really quite a revelation how odd and dark and discordant and non-straight-forward this album is, but still with some totally killer songs ("America" natch). Very interesting.

krakow, Thursday, 25 February 2010 13:13 (sixteen years ago)

Where do the bonus tracks come from? "You Don't Know Where Your Interest Lies" is a great song, so I'm just intrigued to know if it was an out-take or b-side etc? Will try and look it up myself...

krakow, Thursday, 25 February 2010 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

OK, it was the B-side to the "Fakin' It" single. Easy enough.

krakow, Thursday, 25 February 2010 14:32 (sixteen years ago)

Must admit, I've come around to Punky's Dilemma...

ColinO, Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

I wish Fakin' It didn't have that dippy tailor shop interlude.

Brio, Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

comes out of nowhere dunnit. I forget what movie that's from

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:59 (sixteen years ago)

I heard it was a nod to Donovan. ("Good morning, Mr. Leitch. Have you had a busy day?")

Brio, Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:07 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

Just put this on for the first time. When Save The Life Of My Child kicked in I thought it was a mispressed CD. Awesome.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 9 June 2012 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

The voice in the middle of "Fakin' it" is Beverley Kutner (also known as Beverley Martyn) who was friendly with Paul Simon during his London folkie days, and he invited her to New York for that recording and to perform at the Monterey festival. She had a solo career on Deram at the time, you know, first single written by Randy Newman, second by Donovan.

(I knew this before from somewhere, probably the sleevenotes to "Deram dayze" where her first single appears, but just confirmed it on Wikipedia)

Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

Classic! Wish I still had my vinyl copy of this.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

Just put this on for the first time. When Save The Life Of My Child kicked in I thought it was a mispressed CD. Awesome.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, June 9, 2012 2:57 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's great, innit? Love the way they sampled themselves by including a snatch of 'The Sound Of Silence' in there somewhere.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

Just found out that the bass sound on "Save the life of my child" was programmed by Bob Moog himself. He was aiming for an immense bass sound to make an impact - it worked!

Glad I loved this album in 2003 (one of my earliest posts, I suspect).

Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:10 (fourteen years ago)


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