this is the thread for people who don't think the streets are that great

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we deserve a little corner of the world where we can pretend that this guy who talks slowly over monotonous loops isn't being hailed as...well, fuck it, being hailed.

If you love the streets, DON'T POST! Just go make a Streets love thread and we won't go there. This is just for the Streets bashers or the Streets-unimpressed.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 23:55 (twenty-three years ago)

parklife with less tunes

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:08 (twenty-three years ago)

So unimpressed (with the "Weak Become Heroes" caveat).

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Sign me up!

The Wee Papa Girls of the naughts.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:13 (twenty-three years ago)

not sure if i posted this to ilm or not already:

i've never listened to the record but on my way to the grocery one afternoon a few months ago i walked by the club in my neighborhood and saw the name on the wall and heard the soundchecking so i poked my head in. it was very rehearsed and the guy was really going for the limelight ("omfg 8 mile!!!") in the otherwise empty club. you know how they get dolphins to do their little dance at the water park for some chummy stale fish or something? i felt sorry and left. in summary, the music/performance left no positive impression on me, other than a british gerardo (cf, "rico suave").

gygax!, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Prole fetishist feeding middle class music journos the exact view of the working class they want. His beats are anorexic thing, his songs have about as much passion as a corpse, and he looks like he works in a Tesco warehouse.

Plus that NME cover with him in a shopping trolley trying to look a bit "urban", but instead looking like a twat = dud.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:45 (twenty-three years ago)

geezer rap is soooo 9/10. Like Oi without the fashion sense.

Scott Seward, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Streets will never make a line as good as "would you rather I lie take a piece of your pie and say bye or tell the truth and rub your thigh?". Ever. Let alone roll is rrrr's.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Wee Papa Girls of the naughts

hey! at least the wee papa girls were cute.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this thread is so sweet

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Haven't heard it, but the intense, drooling hyperbole that accompanies every review repells me. No thanks.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:07 (twenty-three years ago)

intense, drooling hyperbole

I can see how a KJ fan would be averse to this

Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:08 (twenty-three years ago)

geezer rap is soooo 9/10

Surely rap wasn't around in September 1910?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:09 (twenty-three years ago)

"I can see how a KJ fan would be averse to this"

THE ONLY STREETS THAT MATTER ARE THE ONES WE DRAG YOUR BLOODIED CORPSE THROUGH, CRETINOUS UNBELIEVER!


http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/jaz/jaz84eighties.JPG

Uncle Jaz (vassifer), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:16 (twenty-three years ago)

he looks like he works in a Tesco warehouse

Brilliant! Sums it all up. Oh shit, I thought that was a *good* thing...wrong thredd then.

Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:22 (twenty-three years ago)

You know, I love "Weak Become Heroes" & "Turn the Page" and "It's Too Late" is an alright song, but goddamn, I don't see what's supposed to be so great about this guy.

Is England that starved for emcees? If an American rapper had dropped this record he would get his ass laughed to oblivion!
After all of this hype and album-of -the-year bullshit that I had been choking on for months, I finally downloaded it and except for the songs mentioned above, I found it to be a stunningly cheap sounding and mediocre affair.

The British Emenim? Is that supposed to be funny? This fucker is a hundred miles and running from Emenim's level and I don't even like Emenim!

Maybe he'll get better, but for now he's just not worth all the rabid praise. Not even by a long shot.

Brenya, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 02:09 (twenty-three years ago)

"this fucker is a hundred miles and running from Emenim's level"

Wait, what? What does that even mean? A good thing? A bad thing? Yeah, I know it's an NWA allusion (so what?) but what are you getting at?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 02:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm pretty sure she's saying he's nowhere as good. Eminem to the Streets: "Just Don't Bite It!"

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 02:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Let's not go there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:05 (twenty-three years ago)

oh come on, if the Streets gets ANYWHERE near Eminem's radar he is gonna beat this little kid silly.

"Ow. Ow. Stop. Seriously. Geezer is a bleeder. Eminem. Damn. Get me demerol you rover for I'm gonna hemmorhage all over. I'm being punched. Obie Trice. Be Nice. Don't sit on me. Ow."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Eminem rapping about a fight in a kebab shop would be immeasurably worse, though.

thom west (thom w), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:13 (twenty-three years ago)

If I ever again see Skinner referred to as "the first great English MC" it will be too soon.

I was shocked how dim the beats were on OPM.

Don Weiner, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Thom West, unless you reveal that you don't think the streets are that great you are breaking the rules of this thread and someone will be sending Jaz Coleman after you shortly.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't like 'em, and I haven't even heard it.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:20 (twenty-three years ago)

it's like the stereo mcs all over again.

keith (keithmcl), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 04:29 (twenty-three years ago)

oh come on, if the Streets gets ANYWHERE near Eminem's radar he is gonna beat this little kid silly.

I was more referring to any reference to one of the lamest songs ever made, but that's me. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 05:15 (twenty-three years ago)

the wisest song in the west coast catalogue

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 05:28 (twenty-three years ago)

a british gerardo

Perfect.

Prole fetishist feeding middle class music journos the exact view of the working class they want

On point.

If an American rapper had dropped this record he would get his ass laughed to oblivion!

He'd get a critical beatdown, for sure.

"Ow. Ow. Stop. Seriously. Geezer is a bleeder. Eminem. Damn. Get me demerol you rover for I'm gonna hemmorhage all over. I'm being punched. Obie Trice. Be Nice. Don't sit on me. Ow."

Best thread ever.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 06:56 (twenty-three years ago)

the wisest song in the west coast catalogue

I have my doubts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 07:03 (twenty-three years ago)

after 'Just Like Compton'

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 07:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Thank you so much for making this thread. Hatas Unite!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 07:38 (twenty-three years ago)

ahh miccio you are such a fool

zemko (bob), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 09:40 (twenty-three years ago)

haven't heard 'em but if its good it will come to me, you know.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 09:59 (twenty-three years ago)

aw bless

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 10:31 (twenty-three years ago)

for a start why are they called the streets if it is only one guy? better name would be the dead end i guess.

i suppose it is all about the words as musically it is the total void. and i don't get the words neither...

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, can we also pick him up on "The Irony of It All" as well? A hideously smug, self-satisfied piece of 6th form debating society toss. I mean, you can actually picture his face whilst singing it. It's Uri Gellar levels of smugness.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Dick Van Dyke ahoy

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:39 (twenty-three years ago)

The Streets album, while there's no doubt it'spretty clever, is really one that I can't understand anyone buying. How can you listen to these songs, with their long storylines, more than once or twice?

Hardly a singalonga album, really, or one you would dig out a year from now to refresh your memory on....

russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:55 (twenty-three years ago)

i bet uri geller can flow, though.

i downloaded OPM and deleted it after listening to it all the way through and skipping just about every track. just bored the shit out of me, and i still don't understand why everyone's acting like he's the first MC ever to come out of the UK. oh, he's white. right.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:58 (twenty-three years ago)

The thing about calling "Original Pirate Material" OPM is that even "Heaven Is A Halfpipe" had better rhymes than Skinner.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:00 (twenty-three years ago)

All I know is, if I see one more write up which describes this guy as ‘witty’, I’m gonna take a contract out on him – OK, so I won’t be able to pay up but at least I’ll have the satisfaction of glimpsing Skinner’s head in a Tesco bag rolling around next to me before clambering out the boot of a beaten up Sierra to dig my own grave in a copse on the edge of the New Forest as some impassive underworld G-star nonchalantly screws a silencer onto the end of his glock. He’s about as funny as walking in on your dad shagging your sister.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)

He’s about as funny as walking in on your dad shagging your sister.

And twice as ugly.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Surely rap wasn't around in September 1910?

Cuh... what about the Artful Dodger? Don't you know anything?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 13:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Shit.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)

All I can say is the British sure like their novelty records.

hstencil, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 14:56 (twenty-three years ago)

no. we like those 'free jazz lite' recs you yanks seem to make.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 14:58 (twenty-three years ago)

heh heh, no that's just you, Julio.

hstencil, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 14:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Come to think of it, though, in a way Mike Skinner reminds me of Ken Vandermark. Mostly 'cause they both suck.

hstencil, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 14:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Wow, this thread has grown. Great to see such a turn out for this overrated sucker! Oh, Alex in NYC: Anthony was right about the N.W.A. crack. Skinner is light years away from Emenim's lyrical prowess. He doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath IMHO.

And I'm a he, not a she! :)

Brenya, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

woops! Sorry about the assumption, Brenya!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 19:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
i don't have an answer

karisa driscoll, Friday, 4 March 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

A reviewer here once said his music sounded like The Naked Chef backed by hip beats. He did have a point....

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 4 March 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know who the Naked Chef is, but the beats I heard ain't that hip. I checked out the song from the ILM top 10 of 2004 and thought it was one of the more nothing "great" tracks I've heard in a long time.

peepee (peepee), Friday, 4 March 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

every act hes signed to the beats has been utter crap. that new mitchell brothers with the remix by CALVIN HARRIS just rams the point home further. and he should never be mentioned as an 'MC' again.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

and then theres his dry, stiff, colourless PRODUCTION. i like some beats, mainly on the first album, but theyre like the uk garage versions of anticon beats. never mind the stuff hes been making lately. utterly shite.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

This is a revolutionary standpoint of enormous relevance to September 2007, well done.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:10 (eighteen years ago)

Also, have you noticed how that dude from the Vines can't even sing in tune? It's a disgrace they're even allowed to make records at all.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

He who forgets the past is doomed to repeat it.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

I think Mike Skinner should be commended for updating that whole Dick Van Dyke thing for a 00's audience.

PhilK, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:21 (eighteen years ago)

So Tuesdays are the new Fridays? I'll have to get pissed tonight then

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

Man in the heavily accented & contrived brit spoken wor(l)d I'll take Anne Clark over that Skinner wannabe any day. Even Just Jack isn't as grating. Or Blixa Bargeld for that matter.

blunt, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)


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