The Young Ones: some music-related questions.

neil isn't really much more accurate as a hippy: maybe the idea was "students don't have a clue, do they?"

That's what always confused me. As Mark correctly points out, those two camps were at dagger's drawn in those days. By today's standards, Vyv's a visionary, but I suppose they might have been implying that he was so hopeless that he was simply getting it wrong (hence "Very" instead of "Heavy"?) Yet, Vyv's antics seemed to embody the Exploited and their brood, no?

The Young Ones: Episode Five

i love the dvd set, however. i laugh and laugh and laugh.

Motorhead were sort of on their own musically, too heavy/fast for the Led Zepplin rockers, wrong image for the punk rock crowd and too early for the NWOBHM - although I guess they get lumped into that movement.

(okay, okay, I don't want to open that can of fucking worms. to be honest, I don't remember him wearing a Whitesnake t-shirt to begin with....)

I can't remember what the episode was called but it was the one where they're all freezing: Vyv is borrowing sugar from the woman next door; Rick resorts to burning everything Neil owns; and they are all reduced to eating snow ("No Mike, it's risotto!"). Then, when Vyv announces that he's pregnant, Neil is forced to have his hair cut ("at least I'm still half fashionable") and join the pigs in order to provide for them.

The scene with the band takes place as they're walking to the police recruitment office so I guess they could have removed it from the episode (for copyright reasons maybe?) without interrupting the story line.

What I want to know is, how come you can get "every stoopid episode" on DVD in the US when we can only get the first series in the UK (same reason you can only get the Monty Python series in the US I suppose!) and should I buy it now on import or wait for it all to be released over here in the hope that there aren't any mysteriously missing scenes / episodes in the UK version?!

Should we stand for this?? I mean, even if we *do* have five boxes worth of Buffy while they only have two and four boxes worth of South Park when they only have one? I say NO! Complete Young Ones box 4 Europe NOW! Get Bono to record a fucking charity single or something.

(Of course, there's always this)

Well, hstencil, you're welcome to come over any time and check it out. It's most certainly a Whitesnake shirt he sports in more than one of the episodes (including the final one, "Summer Holiday"). I shit thee not.

Errrr.... does this mean you don't think Phil Lynott / Thin Lizzy did so by playing with and making records with former members of The Damned / Sex Pistols / Heartbreakers, or you don't consider them Metal or you've just forgotten about them?!

Seriously though, I do remember a Saxon t-shirt.

What did Phil do with members of the Sex Pistols? I know he played on a Johnny Thunders album and he did two things (that I'm aware of) with members of the Damned - a charity thing for a soccer...errr football...stadium that burnt down and another song for a Chiswick promotion, but I'm not aware of what he did with any members of the Sex Pistols?

Only wondering because I'm a huge fan of both and I'd like to track it down!

Weren't aware of that, Stew. Cheers. Still, wasn't a very high profile merging (or at least not as high profile as Motorhead, no?)

yeah, there's one of those in there too. But seriously, hstencil, there's a Whitesnake shirt (old snakey logo, way pre-Adrian Vandenberg/"Still of the Night" era). Why would I make it up?

There was a band called The Greedy Bastards aka The Greedies comprising Phil, Steve Jones and Paul Cook. They did at least one single (a xmas novelty thing called A Merry Jingle which was a minor hit IIRC).

Can I come over and watch the DVDs?

Too late. You had your chance, my man. (cue sound of crashing bookshelves).

(kidding)

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with either statement Mark, but nevertheless their collaborations *did* provide some common ground between fans of both genres at a time when, as you said yourself earlier, they were generally pretty little.

btw Fred Purser isn't the only punk to join a HM band by any means - Algy Ward went on to join Tank, Paul Gray joined UFO, Slaughter & The Dogs became Slaughter.... and wasn't one of the members of Girlschool originally in The Killjoys with Kevin Rowland?

i agree that there was lots of low-level interactivy actually, but it was all very specific i think: anyway vyvian is not meant to make you think of any of this (i think in as way its existence if anything takes the edge OFF his ludicrousness as a character)

They were still Southern Death Cult although I don't remember the cowboy hats (more goth than anything at that stage I reckon). As far as I can recall 'though it wasn't 'til Love in '85 that they suddenly started coming over all cock-rock!

What? No they didn't.

What? No they didn't."

Not the Slaughter you're thinking of Alex, but I'm very much afraid they did: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=4:48:53|AM&sql=B3adjvwzla9rk

The 1980 album Bite Back was was not only credited to Slaughter but has a cover that shows the band looking decidedly like a big bunch of cock-rock poodles and not even remotely punk rock!

What's worse, they actually went around calling themselves Studio Sweethearts for a while too (there was at least one single and I think an album released under that name!)

Very true - and Happy Families too!

No Copeland / Holland Subterranean Homesick Blues on there either!

Luckily, I think I still have it on video taped off the telly though. The ABC in aus didn't cut anything out on the original airings in the 80s. Huzzah!

You know (this is embarrasing to admit), when I was a teenager I'd watch that episode and think "dammit - why do half those guys look so familiar?". I had no idea til reading this thread that Jools Holland and Stuart Copeland were in the group. I feel like such a dork for not realising (though to be fair - no one in Aus really knew jools in the 80s except for the "Cool for Cats" song I suspect).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdh4Ezcpf6A&search=damned%20young%20ones

I know, I know. I do this with shows I watch too much.

Uh, it's piss easy to get into uni in the UK. Especially Scumchester Poly.

I thought in UK law you didn't need permission to cover a song unless you substantially changed it.

yes. and he's a cunt too.

I thought in UK law you didn't need permission to cover a song unless you substantially changed it.

hmm. i thought you could cover a song as long as you didn't benefit materially from it (ie make a single penny). i think using somebody's song in a TV show/on a DVD would kinda necessitate some kind of permission/payment thing ...

Possibly.

Certainly I encountered any number of Rik's and Vyvyan's while I was at Scumbag College, err, sorry, I mean Oxford Polytechnic.