is shania twain human?

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― gygax!, Thursday, 30 January 2003 00:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Shania's eight-minute soul-molesting medley was script perfect and Vegas tacky and she hit all her stage marks and sported that godawful glittery faux-goth trailer-park hotpants ensemble thing, looking like something hocked up by Liberace during a laudanum-infused Barbarella nightmare.

No she's a robot

― brg30 (brg30), Thursday, 30 January 2003 01:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Funny thing is that article makes me want to like Shania's music.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:14 (twenty-three years ago)

She has a Swiss chalet? That's so cool.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:17 (twenty-three years ago)

This may well be the worst "attack" article I've ever seen. I'm going to go buy a copy of "Up" right now.

TMFTML
http://intonation.blogspot.com

― TMFTML (TMFTML), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:30 (twenty-three years ago)

ooh! somebody was fake at the superbowl. Who the fuck watches the Superbowl for an authentic emotional experience?

U2 fans, ok. But otherwise...

I'm sorry, I refuse to believe she was more offensive than Sting. Not physically possible.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:33 (twenty-three years ago)

So basically this says that Shania Twain is what all those electroclash bitches wish they could be. Makes sense, here on Earth.
...

OK, Sting is a big fame whore. But he still actually sang and actually knows how to play music, even if he didn't that night. And he's a huge pompous ass. But he also sort of writes original tunes. And he was in the Police and that makes him incapable of being as offensive as Shania Twain.

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Millar, your words will jail ya with their rhetorical failya.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:37 (twenty-three years ago)

See, Anthony, by not paying attention to lyrics I don't have to remember crap like that -- UNTIL YOU QUOTE IT. Argh, the pain...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark Morford (the author of the article cited above) is the only columnist I've ever written to (basically to say 'right on') (about President Bush, not re this article). I mostly like his writing style, and I liked this column too even though I'm not a Sting fan.

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:40 (twenty-three years ago)

also let's not forget that the idea of Sting playing at the Superbowl is what I'm saying is inherently more offensive than Shania at the Superbowl. Sting vs. Shania overall...I'd rather not contemplate.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean "Message In A Bottle" at the SUPERBOWL??? Hell, why not go all the way and proclaim yourself King Of Pain surrounded by cheerleaders in front of a giant stadium.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:43 (twenty-three years ago)

As human as Faith Hill. Or Sheryl Crow. Or Madonna.

Mmmmm, fembots.

― Nick Mirov (nick), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:44 (twenty-three years ago)

go all the way and proclaim yourself King Of Pain surrounded by cheerleaders in front of a giant stadium.

Yes, that's why it's cool.

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 30 January 2003 02:45 (twenty-three years ago)

she was NOT threatening enough to deserve that outfit, it made me angry.

― Maria (Maria), Thursday, 30 January 2003 03:50 (twenty-three years ago)

is Shania human?
is Mutt mutant?
are holograms happy?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 30 January 2003 04:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Much like ShrubCo's blatant warmongering, much like Cheney
barely trying to conceal the outright oily corporatization of
our nation and its war interests, much like a gov't that doesn't
even pretend to conceal its true draconian motives, Shania
Twain, with her multimillion-selling CD and frighteningly
huge reach and casually inhospitable personality and antisocial
lifestyle, is just the right kind of hyperdetermined, largely
unpleasant, content-free heroine. As the saying goes, a country
gets exactly the kind of pop stars it deserves. What, you'd
rather have Michael Jackson?

yipe!

overdetermination means nothing like what this man hopes it does -- it actually means when so many factors determine something so strongly that it opens NEW REALMS OF POSSIBILITY.

which i think IS the case with shania. Her performance of "Up!" was so grebt -- miles ahead of the last concert of hers I saw on MTV circa her last album.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 30 January 2003 04:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Thus Shania is not human, she is better! The end, except to add my name to those who would still prefer Jacko.

― B.Rad (Brad), Thursday, 30 January 2003 09:48 (twenty-three years ago)

'admittedly antisocial and mechanical and impatient and asexual and terse. Hello, role model'

About time! Us 'reserved' types have had enough of perky emo sugarshit rammed in our faces all the time and constantly being persecuted about it. Fuck you bipolar types, you've had your day

― dave '21st Century Schizoid Man' q, Thursday, 30 January 2003 10:12 (twenty-three years ago)

You mean she wasn't really in my living room performing just for me? She was 1000 miles away? I'm not sure this t-t-tele-vision? thing is going to catch on... It's sooo fake.

― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 30 January 2003 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)

I have to agree that the article really, REALLY, made me want to like Shania more.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 January 2003 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I dunno about Shania's superbowl performance. Any half decent local drag show is miles ahead of it.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 30 January 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

This guy, Mark Morford was completely SPOT-ON and fuckin' OTM.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 30 January 2003 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Who knows what kind of mad scientists toil in those abandoned mines underneath Timmins Ont.?

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 30 January 2003 15:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Hated the article, for the same reason I hate most
articles of it's ilk. She's just too easy of a target;
heck, the writer may as _well_ have attacked Micheal
Jackson. Be original, I say; attack Ben Harper or that
tired groaner Stephin Merritt.

And why single out Twain as a symbol of American
shallowness? Pro football itself serves that
purpose, being only slightly more respectable than
NWO wrestling. The political metaphor was
stretched so thin it was nearly transparent.

Zeus knows I've got my problems with Rolling Stone;
but that's one of the things I like about them.
They take every artist, however superficial, on
their own terms. They're still people, no matter
how artifial their music is, and people are
interesting.

Besides, she may not mean anything, but she seems
friendly and affable enough, as do Jessica Simpson,
Jon Bon Jovi and Ted Nugent. Lack of musical
substance does not equal goosestepping fascism,
in my book.

I've never cared one whit for Twain's music, but
I've always respected the fact that she wrote
or co-wrote most of it. Truth is, I actually
found myself nodding along to her latest song
"I'm Gonna Getchoo." It's not that terrible -
it has some individuality - the middle eight
stood out, it was a bit quirky.
(BTW, this is what, the fourth CD by a major artist
entitled "Up"?)

― Squirlplice, Thursday, 30 January 2003 20:13 (twenty-three years ago)

BTW, this is what, the fourth CD by a major artist entitled "Up"?

Just from 2002 Q4

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 30 January 2003 20:15 (twenty-three years ago)

REM are still 'major'?

― dave q, Thursday, 30 January 2003 21:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Hah, I agree that Shania is a cheap target for the article -- what better way to complement the ridiculous commercial pomp of the Superbowl than with a robo-warrior-pop-zombie, if she really is one (I dunno, I didn't watch the Superbowl this year) Frankly I'm looking forward to the day when all entertainment at the Superbowl is ACTUALLY robotic, including the football players themselves. I don't get why people bag on robots so much (I think it has something to do with most ppl's irrational fear of technology), seeing as robots are pretty cool & useful & programmable, so you can plan everything in advance, avoiding screwups! Nothing wrong with that IMO

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 30 January 2003 22:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Also that glitter-bra was pretty hot

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 30 January 2003 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)

This isn't about seeking artistic merit at the Superbowl, this is about Shania Twain's inexplicable appeal. That the performance of hers he was critiquing happened to be at the Superbowl is incidental (although the ability to further damn her via comparison to other acts on the bill who actually sang is convenient).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 30 January 2003 22:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Will you marry me Geeta?

― I can wear a glitter-bra if you want (sundar), Friday, 31 January 2003 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)

sure, why not

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 31 January 2003 06:22 (twenty-three years ago)

As the saying goes, a country gets exactly the kind of pop stars it deserves.
I thoughnt that was the excuse for the existence of Marilyn Manson.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Besides, Shania's Canuckian, but she lives in Switzerland, so, USA is absolved...this time

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:14 (twenty-three years ago)

What Geeta said. Including the bra.

The article is here now:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/01/29/notes012903.DTL

― Graham (graham), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:43 (twenty-three years ago)

how exactly is her appeal inexplicable?

morford's writing is really alive when he's ragging on Shania. And then here's him approving of something: "They actually sang. They talked to the audience." Booring! His words speak contrariwise to his argt.

― g.cannon (gcannon), Friday, 31 January 2003 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

"how exactly is her appeal inexplicable?"

Because of all the points he quite succintly pointed out.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)

But those are her selling points, ie her appeal is quite explicable and morford explicated it (tho he was trashing it). Just look at that sentence brg30 quoted at the top of the thread! It's exactly what billions worldwide want to be entertained by.

― g.cannon (gcannon), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:11 (twenty-three years ago)

You must hate the general public more than I do, g.cannon (which I didn't think was possible.)

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

So lets get to the bottom of this. Shania Twain is an amazingly gorgeous woman but she's not actually human. According to Nick Mirov she's actualy a Fembot (which would explain the mouthe wateringly skimpy costume) and she aparently isn't as good a performer as Sting.
Oh and U2 are totaly fuckin awesome!

― Elliott from England (livin in NY), Monday, 14 June 2004 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

"I am Shania of Borg. You will buy my CD. Resistance is futile!"

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 14 June 2004 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yo! I'd give Shania Twain one! Especially in the "Still the One" video where she is schweeeet!

― C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 14 June 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax!'s link is crazy now

― *ROGERING GEAR!'S ROOMIE* (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

i adore this woman. Whose Bed Have Your Boots Been Under?

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

i had to learn that song for a gig and it was annoying. it pulls out every single pop trick as far as breaks, key changes, etc.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

She's quite gorgeous and she has good credibility on the country music scene (NOT THAT I'D KNOW) plus she's friendly and though she's a fucking awful dresser she's not as bad as Celine Dion and almost less of a robot.
I liked Shania in that video 'Still The One' where she mocks anyone who thought her marriage would fail. Foreshadowing

― VeronaInTheClub, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

ok i'm sorry but she is an amazing dresser

― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://z.about.com/d/countrymusic/1/0/e/z/2/artist-shania.jpg

― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:17 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.famous-people-search.com/shania_twain/shania_twain_pictures/shania_twain_009.jpg

― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:18 (eighteen years ago)

i'm really not sure what about that isn't awesome

― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:18 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.lyrics.nl/pic.php?id=358&waarde=250b

― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.orlandofloridaguide.com/entertainment/music/bands/shaniatwain/Shania3.jpg
I vote no.
Hot but no.

― VeronaInTheClub, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:23 (eighteen years ago)

omg

― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:23 (eighteen years ago)

i'm not sure what to say

― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

I still say super-hot and (usually) a good dresser, not averse to taking risks certainly. The second-to-last pic is steaming up my thick nerdy glasses.

― moley, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

looks like an alien to me

― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:52 (eighteen years ago)

Then abduct me baby

― moley, Thursday, 19 June 2008 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

― Surmounter, Thursday, 19 June 2008 03:01 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I liked more of her music (or felt inclined to try) but I do like a few songs and she's pretty to the point of not seeming human, yeah.

― Bimble, Thursday, 19 June 2008 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe her music will get better now that she's free of ol' Mutt. Maybe she'll have a really awesome "fuck you" song.

― !Alicia!, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

so, this is fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SoG8bKN8vA

― middot • is • my • middle • name (breastcrawl), Saturday, 30 April 2022 08:48 (four years ago)

I looked up Mark Morford and he no longer writes about music, he's a yoga teacher now.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 30 April 2022 11:55 (four years ago)

So, was Harry getting in the way of the robot?

― Mark G, Saturday, 30 April 2022 13:03 (four years ago)

is Harry going for an Osmonds-in-1971 look or

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 April 2022 13:07 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO9ekL9lohk

― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:40 (four years ago)

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6BGu-GyKWQ

https://holler.country/news/breaking/shania-twain-releases-new-single-giddy-up

― Indexed, Friday, 6 January 2023 14:50 (three years ago)

i think she is

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 January 2023 17:09 (three years ago)

Based on this song, yeah

― Indexed, Friday, 6 January 2023 17:27 (three years ago)

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