The Kills: C/D?

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Ooh, I feel pre-emptive today. The new single is wicked. In my opinion. And I said wicked. DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH. Hmph.

But yes. The Kills - evil hard-arse genius OR The White Stripes get the painters in?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 30 January 2003 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)

DUD

mosurock (mosurock), Thursday, 30 January 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Neither and/or it's too soon to tell.

paul cox (paul cox), Thursday, 30 January 2003 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know, I saw them live. They had nice guitars and amps. They acted stoned. But they drank wine on stage, and this is a PBR town, so that was amusing. The music? I don't know. Some good songs, some ok songs, some too long songs.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 January 2003 14:20 (twenty-three years ago)

it's too soon to tell.

Ah, but you see, that is my style. for instance, I started this thread waaaay before most people on here started thinking they were rubbish.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 30 January 2003 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

In fact, I would appear to have started a lot of threads like that. And they're all a bit shite. Oh dear.

But anyway. The Kills. Yes?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 30 January 2003 14:32 (twenty-three years ago)

They should get a propa drummer.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Thursday, 30 January 2003 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've not heard them, just read about them in CTCL but didn't like what I read. The whole, trying hard to be like Royal Trux without actually being Royal Trux, it's quite sad isn't it? Sort of like the Diesel advert that fronted on Jenifer's perfecto rock'n'roll image. Unless you're as f*cked up as the Trux were how can you write songs as hauntingly beautiful as Blood Flowers or The Specter? I guess I'm saying if they were f*cked up junkies I'd give 'em a chance, but I'm guessin' they ain't.

It's quite pathetic for me to say I'll only like a band if they can prove to me they mean it, man, to the point they'd be throwin' their lives away. But, I'm sorry to say, that's the way the rock'n'roll cookie crumbles my friends.

Stephen Burrows (steveeeeeeeee), Thursday, 30 January 2003 15:55 (twenty-three years ago)

stephen has summed up my every contrary feeling about the kills

stevie (stevie), Thursday, 30 January 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I smell way too many whiffs of the Str*kes or the Yeah Yeah fucking Yeahs here, in terms of the amount of attention given a band with such a LIMITED track record.

I have to admit, I like the EP. And they do have good live charisma. It's Patti Smith fronting the Mary Chain, which is a good thing. But I am NOT ready to crown a band the saviours of anything until I've heard more than one EP.

My initial impressions are good, but it's too soon to tell. And anyway, who came first, the Kills or the Raveonettes? I can't actually tell their EP's apart... They're derivative, but I like what they're derivative of, so I won't complain.

kate, Thursday, 30 January 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

posts by people who havent heard the music in question = dud.

insectifly (insectifly), Thursday, 30 January 2003 16:54 (twenty-three years ago)

the times i've seen them, i couldn't get over how minutely alison aped jennifer herrema. every little twitch and sway, the hair fall, the cigarrette clenched in the fist... obviously everyone has influences,nothing falls from the sky, etc., but this was undigested mimicry. like kate, i tend to be forgiving of things that might be a bit unoriginal if i like the source. not in this case, though...royal trux live were scary. the kills just irritated the bejesus out of me.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 30 January 2003 21:15 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, and she was in fucking Discount. any idea how humiliated she is of that? to have fronted a supremely lame Florida pop-punk-emo band and now go around rocking high heels and a fur coat? go to their shows and rattle her by yelling out Discount lyrics.

mosurock (mosurock), Thursday, 30 January 2003 21:18 (twenty-three years ago)

i think they're embarrassing.

david mc, Thursday, 30 January 2003 21:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the EP, and Hotel's (ho ho ho ho) last band Scarfo were great, so I have high hopes

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 30 January 2003 22:38 (twenty-three years ago)

They played here a while back with This Bike Is A Pipe Bomb, Abe Froman, The Devil is Electric and some local noise-makers (Die And See, who I haven't heard from since) and Sinaloa (weird post-hardcore stuff.)

They played last. I left a few songs into their set because of how bad and pretentious it all seemed. It may have been the setting, though; I bet it's tough to be effective coming after such energic, rockin' bands when you're trying your hardest to look "cool" and "detached."

In retrospect, I'm sad I left early for three reasons:
1. There was free birthday cake for everyone afterwards.
2. The Body played a secret set in the freight elevator after their set.
3. I had no idea how talked up they'd become; this was before the album came out, and I believe was actually their first (or one of their first) shows in the US. If I had known how loved they'd become, I would have stuck around so I would have more valid arguments against them.

Ian Johnson, Friday, 31 January 2003 03:39 (twenty-three years ago)

That should be "energetic" obv.

Ian Johnson, Friday, 31 January 2003 03:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I actually wanted to like the EP because I like everything else I've heard that Hince has done, but I just can't manage to. Occasional good bits, a mass of average but drearily retro and/or lumpenly selfconscious bits which you might expect to sound good when drunk but don't, and some horribly embarrassing bits (eg all of "Gum"). But then I haven't hated the few Discount songs I've heard, so what do I know? Not a lot, and not just on that evidence, either. Oh well.

(But, c'mon, how many years since the original and STILL with the rips from "You Really Got Me" with no energy but also no Kinks-style mastery of deadpan, and not even the courtesy to cut it short and snappy after 3 minutes instead of degenerating into possibly the least freaked-out instrumental freakout I've ever heard for another two minutes? Maybe this is more Trux love; I mean, if they've started copying the twenty minute drum solo RT did when I saw them then no amount of free cake could make up for that, that's all.)

serf, Friday, 31 January 2003 04:24 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
hey! f-ck the people.

brilliant tune!!

i'm a bit late with this.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

for instance, I started this thread waaaay before most people on here started thinking they were rubbish.

Sorry, but this belated discovery of a point in time when the good-thinking minds of ILM had yet to notice The Music were redefining "rubbish" for the 21st century, even after just that first 7", has struck me down cold and obliterated my train of thought. The Kills, wha?

pete badmusik (pete badmusik), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Whatever happened to The Kills?

I quite liked them. And VV was really sweet.

Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

They're supporting Franz Ferdinand on their UK tour. or so I heard.
Though last time I saw them in portsmouth someone tried to decapitate Hotel with a full pint glass mid-set. And they were the headliners (i *heart* pompey).
So should be fun when they return here in a couple months...

pete badmusik (pete badmusik), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i completely loved their live show. their second album is due out on rough trade some time shortly.

purple patch (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

this band sucks and so does your shitty little island

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think the Black Rooster EP more than holds up, but over the course of the whole album it really started to drag like anything. 'Cat Claw' is wicked, though.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The UK or Australia Jon?

DJ Mencap0))), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

good point! I meant the UK; Aussie's have been nothing but nice to me.


GUYS, LISTEN TO DISCOUNT; THEY SUCKED, DUDES!!! DON'T BELIEVE THE UK INDIE CRAP HYPEMACHINE

GO LISTEN TO ORTHRELM

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I quite liked Discount AND I like Orthrelm, but I don't like The Kills very much. Some people don't like ANY of them. WHAT IS TO BE DONE????

DJ Mencap0))), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.bible.ca/jonestown-guyana.jpg

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

If you can convince that many people to watch The Kills at once, you ARE Jim Jones

DJ Mencap0))), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.villagevoice.com/siren/2003/bands/thekills/kill5.jpg

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.traverse.com/members/hawksgol/KmKPage/Pictures/that%20guy.gif

JIM JONES (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
I just heard a new song called "Love is a Deserter" and it's sexy awesome!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I really love the new album. Not quite as much as I loved their first album, but I think they're the only guitar band I feel some sort of connection to these days.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Stephen and Lauren totally correct upthread. That whole Jennifer Herrera thing is so totally ape. And tihs is not a value judgement, just food for thought: Allison (er, VV) was the singer of a Floridian pop punk band until a couple years ago.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://newad.liberationrecords.com/discount/shawn8.jpg

S!monB!rch (Carey), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

What is the point of The Kills when I still have all my old P J Harvey records?

JoB (JoB), Thursday, 3 March 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK THIS SHIT!!!

green uno skip card (ex machina), Thursday, 3 March 2005 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I couldn't care less about their first album but this is great fun. i totally love the titletrack.

Rizzx, Thursday, 3 March 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

you care too much jon

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 3 March 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Anyone heard their new one?

baaderonixx, Friday, 7 March 2008 09:25 (eighteen years ago)

God I hate this band with all my heart... Who cares about this when you have the Raveonettes ?

Snowballing, Friday, 7 March 2008 10:50 (eighteen years ago)

Still love much of the first album and live they have an awesome, mesmerising, dynamic.

The second album was okay and there are a few great tracks off it. This most recent single does nothing for me.

Upt0eleven, Friday, 7 March 2008 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

and who cares about the Raveonettes when you have the JAMC?

xp

baaderonixx, Friday, 7 March 2008 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

Single "URA Fever" didn't do too much for me either but as an opener it's ok. But then, the rest of the album: RAAAH!! I played it in the car on the way home yesterday and that's just about the perfect situation for these songs. It's filled to the brim with steeringwheelbanging moments - boogie, hooks, animalistic moaning (t.rex?) - fucking awesome. Things slow down for bit on the beautifully floaty "Black Balloon", but from "Cheap and Cheerful" to "Hook and Line" this rocks like a motherfucker.

willem, Friday, 7 March 2008 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

I've always felt ambivalent about this band... several traits I don't like but 'Black Balloon' is so perfect that makes me want to try harder to like the rest they have to offer.

Black Balloon sort of reminds me of Spoon... they do that sort of minimal rock song which keeps building up.

Moka, Friday, 23 April 2010 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

like other guitar bands i love, the ilm hivemind hates'em (usual suspects etc).

have to say after 2 days of non-stop on-u sound, the mix up of the kills with the congos on their last album sounds f*ckin' brilliant.

mark e, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

Loved the first two albums, really didn't like the third, and thought the most recent one was fine.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

just to clarify : 'usual suspects' = reference to the bands i like that no-one else here does.

mark e, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

So I've turned my mind around them. I love them. Sure they're trying to ape Royal Trux + VU but I can't think of many better rock bands to ape if given the chance.
If anything I think they're too concious about making some sort of 'fashionista' rock and it seems they wont evolve their style at all if they continue that path. Lou Reed managed just fine without the trends, might as well imitate him all the way through.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 18 July 2015 11:58 (ten years ago)

my friend was once really into them so i got a lot of exposure by osmosis (saw them live a long, long time ago), but not much really stuck with me. still remember "u r a fever," though, which does all-style/no-substance in a really fun way

soyrev, Sunday, 19 July 2015 02:50 (ten years ago)

Definitely more style than substance with them but they have some interesting sound dynamics, they even remind me of the Pixies on some songs where they alternate between silent and loud. I think they should be re-evaluated at some point, it seems ilm hates them and the rest of the world didn't care much about them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 19 July 2015 09:58 (ten years ago)

I liked their last album a lot

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, 19 July 2015 13:39 (ten years ago)


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