greatest music making nation in the history of the universe...ever!

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most influential of all time?

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 31 January 2003 01:36 (twenty-three years ago)

the one that was agreed upon in the other thread.

― keith (keithmcl), Friday, 31 January 2003 01:41 (twenty-three years ago)

jamaica?

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 31 January 2003 01:42 (twenty-three years ago)

no, she went of her own accord

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 31 January 2003 05:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Boom boom!

― mei (mei), Friday, 31 January 2003 08:37 (twenty-three years ago)

probably has to be Germany/Austria ... for Bachs, Hyden, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Liszt, Wagner, Mahler, Straus's, Schoenberg ... Weil ... krautrock, Kraftwerk ... lots and lots of good electronica.

― phil jones (interstar), Friday, 31 January 2003 09:32 (twenty-three years ago)

again!?! why - especially in view of the original question posed this time - is it again so damn easy for some people to ignore (at the very least) the whole eastern hemisphere and several thousand years of world history?
the persian, the indian, the chinese musical cultures, and the whole of africa to boot - outta the window, just like that!
this is neither farsighted nor "far out"

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 31 January 2003 13:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Why is it easy to ignore? Well, as far as Americans go, it's what we do best. It's far easier than actually trying to understand other times and peoples.:)
In modern music, US dominates, as it does almost all of pop culture. This question is very subjective because in order to answer what nation produces the most amount of great music, you have to agree on what is great music. If you don't listen to Chinese or Indian music, you probaly will disregard those countries contributions to music. Of course I could be misinterpreting the question, but I don't think it was "Which nation produces the most music?"
Kind of pointless to answer.

― andy, Friday, 31 January 2003 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Fucking India all the way. Followed by Japan. Then China. Then, only if it's a Dylan album year, Iceland. Then Uzbekistan. Then, if it's an El Nino year, Guatemala. Then Australia, Canada, Portugal, and Mozambique (in a tie). Then Greece. Then Hungary. Then Texas (counting only the music that was produced during T's brief independence). Then Barbados. Then Belgium. Then Argentina. Then Antarctica. Then USA.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

san diego

― gygax!, Friday, 31 January 2003 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Modality Mann, it's in the modes.

― christoff (christoff), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)

finally, i'm beginning to see the light - of course, what Dubya The Midget is *really* after is that huge musical debt the Iranians owe America for the past hundred years

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

No Question: XXsi!288s)^. It's on a planet about 3000 light years away.
What? You've never heard of it? Christ, do you just listen to the Beatles all day?

― andy, Friday, 31 January 2003 16:48 (twenty-three years ago)

India, I buy. Has a massive musical heritage. And like most strong musical cultures, is actually a melting pot of influences from elsewhere including mohgul and islamic etc.

China and Japan I don't buy. Some of the music is very beautiful, but these cultures got stuck. Historically, the chinese tend to consider their culture so superior to anyone else's they're very reluctant to borrow / absorb or learn from the outside world. When they get invaded, the invaders often absorb Han culture rather than the other way round. Has chinese music really evolved much between the 12th century and the 20th?

African ... first I think it's an unfair comparison between a continent and a country. Does any particular "nation" in Africa have such a decisive win over somewhere like Germany or India?
Secondly, of course, "nations" are not really very relevant or useful in Africa, and all of them are artificially imposed by the Europeans.

Northern Africa may do better with Morroco and Egypt, but these are mainly echoes of the Islamic empire ...

an interesting overlooked country is Turkey, which has a blend of influences of arabic and other asiatic musics, and western.

― phil jones (interstar), Friday, 31 January 2003 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Phil, Nigeria and Mali would be two different other African magnets.

― christoff (christoff), Friday, 31 January 2003 19:45 (twenty-three years ago)

take a pinch of white man
mix it up with black man
add a pinch of yealla man
and a little bitty bit o red indian maaan
o yeah

or whatever the lyrics are.

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 2 February 2003 08:42 (twenty-three years ago)

if you rule out Germany's classical tradition (which is a mighty big if), I'd take Nigeria, Mali, and South Africa over Germany easy.

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 2 February 2003 09:02 (twenty-three years ago)

anyone who says anything other than the US is drunk on indie obscuratism.

― simon simonson, Sunday, 2 February 2003 10:52 (twenty-three years ago)

temperament vs just intonation? harmony? notation? rhythm?

the US only just logged on man.

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 2 February 2003 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)

i was just kinda thinking yeah, is anyone actually going to just say UK or US.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 2 February 2003 21:44 (twenty-three years ago)

''the US only just logged on man''

which is why this arg is just a tiny bit silly. how do you measure this?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 2 February 2003 21:46 (twenty-three years ago)

tiny bit silly
only a tiny bit? its ridiculous...it is ILM though, isn't it? and the "uh-oh, way off thread" comments are the best.

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 2 February 2003 21:53 (twenty-three years ago)

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