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The Dean Wareham thread the other day got me thinking - I love Galaxie 500 but don't have anything he's done since. My brother's got a couple of Luna albums which I've heard once or twice and liked (not sure which), but where should I start if I want to get one?

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 7 February 2003 12:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

penthouse and bewitched are both great. there is also a good wareham appearance on a mercury rev single--car wash hair i think...

marcg (marcg), Friday, 7 February 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I Love Everything" and "California All The Way"

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 7 February 2003 15:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Penthouse is my most-played album of the '90s; make of that what you will.

I like all their albums a lot, though Bewitched is probably my least favorite except maybe Live. (A very relative judgment, that.)

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 7 February 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

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beetrum, Friday, 7 February 2003 21:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

mathwiz and the first song on strike match here

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 7 February 2003 22:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Either Bewitched was so bad that it turned me off to all subsequent Luna albums or it was so great that no subsequent Luna album could measure up to it. On most days it's the latter.

Nick Mirov (nick), Saturday, 8 February 2003 08:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have all the Luna albums, but I only ever play one (Penthouse). The others are quite nice too; but for whatever reason I'm hardly ever inclined to listen to them, and I know Penthouse backwards and forwards.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 8 February 2003 08:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

penthouse is my most listened to as well and I think a fine place to start. Bewitched has some swell songs, but doesn't have the same dark, drunk feel to me. I would also elevate Pup Tent, though many others seem dismissive of it. "Fuzzy Wuzzy" is one of my favorite Luna songs. After Pup Tent, they're ok, but don't have the magic they had before. Still fine stuff, but it seems much more pedestrian.

nick ring (nick ring), Sunday, 9 February 2003 19:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm rather surprised no one's mentioned Romantica. It's the sequel to Bewitched in many ways, but perfectly capable of holding its own.

Pup Tent's great, and unfairly maligned.

But I have to agree with the majority here and cast a vote for Penthouse.

paul cox (paul cox), Sunday, 9 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Romanica (their latest) is quite beautiful. Songs like the Renee is Crying, Mermaid Eyes and above all, Rememories, I listen to over and over again. People take Dean Wareham for granted.

It's my favourite since the first, Lunapark (which no one has mentioned and is quite wonderful and v.immediate) , though I haven't heard all of the ones in between. Is Penthouse the one with Chinatown on it?

Destroy - the one with the 'Sweet Child Of Mine' cover on it. That's the only good track on it as far as I recall.

"I Love Everything"

Do you mean 'I Want Everything'..?

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 February 2003 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

shameless plug for my own writing time: http://www.citypaper.com/2002-05-15/music.html

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 10 February 2003 01:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

their Kraftwerk cover is really pleasant.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 10 February 2003 01:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Luna's cover choices have always been great (and that includes that one song on Romantica that's basically just Van Halen's "Jump"). Maybe they should release an all-covers album sometime, either all new covers or just a collection of the ones they've done already.

Nick Mirov (nick), Monday, 10 February 2003 06:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll vote for Lunapark myself. Bewitched is too much of an ok thing, Penthouse always struck me as too reserved - reminds me of the Dream Syndicate in that way (though I find some great bits and pieces in there). Never heard Pup Tent, hated what I heard of Days Of Our Nights (especially the G'N'R cover. Only made me wanna hear the original) and Romantica just sounded okay for me. Only the first album consistently entertains me.

and I prefer Galaxie 500 totally.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 10 February 2003 23:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bewitched is the one with "California" on it, right? That's my favorite still. It hits a mood, captures it and maintains it. None of the rest have seemed anywhere so distinct.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 00:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thanks for the advice everyone. I think I'll check out 'Penthouse' first but keep an eye out for the others.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 10:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bought 'Penthouse' yesterday. Sounded good on first listen, but nothing like Galaxie 500. Don't know why that should've surprised me.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 09:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Luna's breaking up!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 24 September 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

'Tigerlily' is a nice song...

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 24 September 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

They even shut down the website!

I do love Luna .. But I suppose they had run the course..

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 24 September 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago) link

Oh that’s sad. I really loved their last ep and the last couple of shows I saw were some of their best.

Maybe this means more Dean and Britta now, which wouldn't be such a bad thing.

danh (danh), Friday, 24 September 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

Rendezvous is mediocre at best. Touring Penthouse and Puptent, they were great. L'avventura has some good songs on it. Hopefully, Dean and Britta will continue to make music but I'll miss Sean's guitar.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 24 September 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

I'll have to try to see them, then. I think Rendezvous is pretty good actually -- much better than L'Avventura and right up there with Penthouse.

JC-L (JC-L), Friday, 24 September 2004 18:08 (twenty years ago) link

Funny, 'cause I find L'Avventura better than both Romantica and Rendezvous.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 24 September 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link

"bonnie and clyde"

reo, Friday, 24 September 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

If Galaxie 500 is CCR, Luna is John Fogerty going solo. Maybe it's because I'm not crazy about Galaxie either.

strom (strom), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

Oh no no no. Luna pretty much wipes the floor with Galaxy 500. I like them fine, but really their biggest tallent was making covers sound like the mush the rest of their songs tended to be. I guess Luna tend to do that as well. But without the mush!

danh (danh), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:21 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, you have a point. My favorite Galaxie song is probably "Listen the snow is falling".

strom (strom), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:23 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, and mine might be "Here She Comes". OTM about the covers, but I like the rest of the mush, too.

JC-L (JC-L), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
i wonder why their european farewell tour visits only spain and london. weren't they appreciated in the rest of europe?

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"Tiger Lily" and much of Bewitched.

"Ihop" but little else from Pup Tent.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, Penthouse. What Matos said in his article.

I got the live album but I didn't listen to it that much because I was put off by the liner notes of all things.

And search: their cover of "Season of the Witch." (Is that on Bewitched?)

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
We're going to see them this Saturday on their last SF appearance ever. I'm quite verklempt actually 'cause my my gf seduced me to their music, we've been to almost every show they've done here, and they kind of re-introduced me to pop music at a time when all I would listen to was jazz and classical. I haven't really liked the albums all that much since 'Pup Tent' though there are lovely bits on Rendezvous and Romantica but I feel like an era in my life is passing. I like what Dean and Britta are doing but I think I'm going to miss Sean's guitar. Anybody else similarly sentimental or going to see the last tour?

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic for the underwear picture.

adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 3 February 2005 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link

loved them about 14 years ago, saw them open for the screaming trees in tijuana, mexico (they were known as luna2)... didn't know they were still around, i think galaxie 500 was better.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 3 February 2005 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link

didn't know they were still around, i think galaxie 500 was better.

This doesn't make sense. I love Galaxie 500 and Luna, but I couldn't compare them if I hadn't listened to one for 14 years.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 3 February 2005 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh it is that Luna. I AM GOING TO GRIME NITE, MICHAEL!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

HELLO SF!! i was thinking this thread was revived solely for the underwear pic. funny

El Janko (JasonD), Thursday, 3 February 2005 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link

well, dean wrote all the songs for both bands, it's not a big stretch you know? or are you saying dean completely transformed into a different songwriter...

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 3 February 2005 08:24 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
bought a copy of Bewitched the other day - knew the album well, friends n housemates always had it around. its strange to me how there really isn't anything that unique or unconventional about their sound or approach, and yet they are perfectly evocative of a very specific mood and aesthetic - definitely urban, a sheen of slickness and artificiality, inhabiting a world of designer shirts, neuroses, and lazy afternoons, with occasional smirky in-joke/New Yorker magazine-style reference. I can clearly remember the unique circumstances under which I heard every album up through "The Days of Our Nights" (at which point I lost interest - altho there was at least one great 7" that followed, the "Sucking Ice Cubes/7-11" single). Everything is catchy and simple, sometimes to the point of banality... but where this should make them generic, I can't really think of too many other bands with a similar style, even though they have clear, fixed, very common reference points (the Velvets, Television, first Modern Lovers album). There are a couple great songs on every record, but I'll rank 'em anyway:

1. Penthouse
2. Luna2
3. Bewitched
4. Pup Tent
5. The Days of Our Nights
6. Luna EP

but hands-down best ever song is the b-side, "Roll in the Sand".

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Shakey Mo, you really should go buy Romantica sometime soon.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 26 May 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Also I can urge folks to seek out the "Slide" EP, which came out after the debut record. It includes a nice covers:

"Indian Summer" (Beat Happening)
"Ride into the Sun (VU)
"That's what they always say" (Dream Syndicate)

Dean Wareham always had great music taste, as well as superior taste in shirts and women.

kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Saturday, 27 May 2006 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link

the documentary about them that's coming out on DVD is pretty nice if you're a big big fan, which obv. I am. if not, don't even bother. this is true of 99% of music docs but especially in this case--we don't get any info on the band's history-by-numbers, mentions of Justin and Stanley w/o much (or any) other info, boo.

there's a new best-of coming on Rhino that Dean programmed. I wish I liked it a lot more than I do.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 27 May 2006 07:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I am annoyed that a bunch of my favorite Luna songs are not available digitally, anywhere, apparently. I can't carry my record player on the bus, now can I

Whats with all the littering? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

what's not available? The early stuff?

tylerw, Friday, 26 March 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

specifically:

Sucking Ice Cubes
7/11
Roll in the Sand
Dance With Me (Jonathan Richman cover)

Whats with all the littering? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean sure these are all b-sides but I rank them higher than a lot of album cuts

Whats with all the littering? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

can't find an MP3 of the original flex-disc single version of Indian Summer either (which is def. better than the full-band version)

Whats with all the littering? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

the full of wishes site has a bunch of these unavailable things converted to mp3 ... http://www.fullofwishes.co.uk/mp3/

tylerw, Friday, 26 March 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I love Slash Your Tires. I also love Freakin' And Peakin and think it's very underrated.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link

Baumbach and Wareham are a perfect fit imo

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link

ok off the top of my head

California All The Way
Bobby Peru
Friendly Advice
Bewitched
Freakin' And Peakin
Speedbumps
Astronaut
Superfreaky memories
Lovedust
Tiger Lily

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

x-post - Yes.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link

"Astronaut" is definitely a late-period classic. That whole Close Cover Before Striking EP is killer.

tylerw, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

Yes! It's very good.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link

Dean Wareham has been in a few movies!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

And "Neon Lights" from that EP, a classic cover (I'll admit to liking it more than Kraftwerk's).

nickn, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 23:40 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

Just out of interest, I
sort of consider Luna to be a New Zealand band given Dean Wareham's ancestry and with past line ups containing members of the Clean and the Chills - am I alone in this?

Grantman, Monday, 11 June 2018 10:25 (six years ago) link

Yes.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 June 2018 11:30 (six years ago) link

Clean members in Luna?

nerve_pylon, Monday, 11 June 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

Hamish Kilgour played on some of Wareham's post-G500 demos, but I don't think he was ever really in the band ... https://luna.bandcamp.com/album/luna-demos-1991

tylerw, Monday, 11 June 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link

Justin is from NZ too, right? That said, NY band in my mind. No question.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 11 June 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

Taking sides: Luna as a NZ band vs. The Lemonheads as an Australian band.

dorsalstop, Monday, 11 June 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link

vs ac/dc as a scottish band

three months pass...

Anyone have any thoughts on how might see Tell Me Do You Miss Me, the documentary, without spending a fortune? Ludicrous prices are listed online these days. Heck, shipping alone is terrifying enough on most secondhand DVD copies.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 21 September 2018 05:08 (six years ago) link

"...how ONE might see..."

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 21 September 2018 05:14 (six years ago) link

That's actually next in my Netflix DVD queue. Assuming it shows up I can rip and send you a file if you want.

early rejecter, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:48 (six years ago) link

Are you in the U.S.? There's a good condition one on Ebay right now for $24.99/free shipping.

early rejecter, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link

BTW, new record from from Dean and the guy from Cheval Sombre next month, a "western dream pop" covers album.

early rejecter, Friday, 21 September 2018 12:58 (six years ago) link

I'm not in the US, sadly. I shall have a closer look at ebay...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 22 September 2018 04:32 (six years ago) link

Holy shit did I really never post about the best present in the world that I got for my last birthday?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 22 September 2018 04:59 (six years ago) link

http://i64.tinypic.com/28b9sog.jpg

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 22 September 2018 05:00 (six years ago) link

!!!

willem, Saturday, 22 September 2018 06:27 (six years ago) link

Right?! It is the best gift I’ve ever received by a long shot.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 22 September 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

What a great gift! Bewitched rules.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 September 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link

Hey N!N!N!, my Netflix DVD should be arriving this weekend. If you want a rip let me know what file format works for you. I usually use .mp4 for bringing into iTunes but can do whatever works for you.

early rejecter, Friday, 28 September 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

It's a generous offer ER! I'd happily deal with .mp4 or pretty much anything you might find convenient!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 29 September 2018 07:02 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Pretty uninspired performance of Penthouse last night (imo) until they redeemed it all w/ a gorgeous version of "Indian Summer" during the encore.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Monday, 14 October 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link

The Bewitched shoe was perfectly okay, nothing more, nothing less. Encores included Hey Sister, their Donovan cover, their Deam Syndicate cover, and a couple of later era Luna songs. Oh, and Blue Thunder.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 October 2019 18:57 (five years ago) link

still have never been to one of those "play a whole album in sequence" shows — seems like it'd take a little bit of the pleasure out of a gig (for band and audience!). but what do i know ...
here's a good recent digital EP of recent Luna odds n sods: https://luna.bandcamp.com/album/postscripts

tylerw, Monday, 14 October 2019 19:00 (five years ago) link

If you think about it, it's a lot stranger that acts spend so much time figuring out a track order on an album, but then when they play live they just shuffle everything up.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 October 2019 19:04 (five years ago) link

> here's a good recent digital EP of recent Luna odds n sods

Now that I re-think it, they closed the set with "Indian Summer" at which point I turned to my friend and said "I think I should leave now." Then they came back out and played "Lonesome Cowboy Bill", which made me wish I had trusted my instinct.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Monday, 14 October 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

'the days of our nights' is a much stronger album than i had recalled! all the songs are kind of the same, but it's a good song

some bad titles tho

mookieproof, Sunday, 5 September 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

So, will be seeing them tonight (at the Fillmore) for the first time since 1993. Also apparently they're doing a Lou Reed set after midnight. Will be interesting to see how this shakes down!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 January 2024 00:32 (ten months ago) link

Oof I think that is something that would get me out of the house for NYE — have fun! Saw they were covering “new sensations” lately, which is an inspired choice.

tylerw, Monday, 1 January 2024 00:45 (ten months ago) link

Many thanks to early rejecter for the assistance hinted at upthread. I've actually watched Tell Me Do You Miss Me quite a few times over the ensusing years! That sweetly tragic vibe is not really undermined by subsequent reformation lol.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 1 January 2024 01:34 (ten months ago) link

Oh man. More on this tomorrow but that was a special show. The straigjht up Luna set was excellent and the Lou Reed set was a real treat. Had to leave befoe the end — otherwise I’d have been real fucked in terms of delayed NYE buses home — but here’s what I did catch:

“Waiting For The Man” (w/ guest violinist)
“New Sensations”
“Ocean”
“Femme Fatale” (Britta on vocals)
“Lonesome Cowboy Bill”
“Ride Into the Sun”
“Satellite of Love”
“Walk On The Wild Side” (w/guest violinist)
“I’m Sticking With You”

Felt like the last number after that was about to happen when I left, I’m sure it killed. Anyway none of this describes the actual staging, but photos will explain it better! More on that when I’m awake and coherent!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 January 2024 09:09 (ten months ago) link

whoa I didn't see you there (or see this thread before today); we were at the right of the stage right in front all night.

Excellent show, have a good video of Chinatown I'll post later. I too first saw Luna in 93 opening for someone I can't even remember, then again in 99, then again a few years back; throw in some Dean and Britta shows (and the last Galaxie 500 tour opening for Cocteau Twins) I feel pretty well versed in seeing Dean Wareham live. I actually don't love everything Luna has put out; I skip probably more songs than I listen to, in fact; but they are reliably amazing live.

If you didn't stay to the end you missed a final encore of Marquee Moon.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 1 January 2024 16:35 (ten months ago) link

Violinist was Sivan Lioncub from Everyone is Dirty.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 1 January 2024 16:36 (ten months ago) link

it was a somewhat chaotic night in some respects as Nato Green, local political SF comic who mc'ed the night, really pissed some people off by speaking out against Israel. An enraged guy behind me was screaming "fuck you!"

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 1 January 2024 16:39 (ten months ago) link

Ah “Marquee Moon” would have been nice but hell that means I caught the Lou songs at least. Yeah Green’s sets were a thing (I didn’t mind so much, but was mostly on my phone.) I arrived when the openers were finishing, I was about halfway back.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 January 2024 16:56 (ten months ago) link

They were great too (Sugar Candy Mountain). As I very slowly re-emerge into the local music scene I'm glad to stumble on bands I like that I somehow missed.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 1 January 2024 17:03 (ten months ago) link

Yeah they seemed good! Certainly suited the bill.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 January 2024 17:06 (ten months ago) link

Okay, a set of ten photos up! Go nuts!

https://www.instagram.com/p/C1kf0amvesB/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 January 2024 20:01 (ten months ago) link

Hey Nag!, happy to have been able to help! Seeing your post reminded me that I never actually watched the doc! I’ll need to set aside some time for it.

These days I find I most often listen to the Dean/Cheval Sombre album, the Quarantine Tapes, and 13 Most Beautiful.

early rejecter, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 14:57 (ten months ago) link

Slightly delayed Patreon thoughts on that and NYE shows/experiences:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-weekly-98-95930433

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 January 2024 20:40 (ten months ago) link

sounds like a great time!

in the meantime, these new live LPs are fantastic (they had previously been digital only releases) ... https://bandboxrocks.com/collections/luna-bandbox-exclusive-colored-vinyl

tylerw, Friday, 5 January 2024 20:56 (ten months ago) link

ten months pass...

Reviving to say that I'm delighted they're doing another NYE set again at the Fillmore in a few weeks -- honestly if they just keep coming back and doing this each time I am not going to complain. Kinda hope maybe they'll sneak in some songs from the forthcoming Dean and Britta/Sonic Boom holiday album!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 November 2024 18:19 (five days ago) link

yes, hoping to corral more people into coming this year. not clear if they're doing to do another VU set though, that would be cool.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 16 November 2024 22:55 (five days ago) link


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