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what and when was it? did a particular piece of music (or time/scene/place) set your listening habits? what was the foundation of your favourites today? or is it all lost, never to be recaptured?

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 16 February 2003 09:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Easy answer, with indie cred: Pixies

Deeper answer, with more truth: Steely Dan

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 16 February 2003 09:36 (twenty-three years ago)

bowie, zappa, eno, and kraftwerk.

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 16 February 2003 09:40 (twenty-three years ago)

oh yeah, the smiths and my bloody valentine!

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 16 February 2003 09:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Led Zeppelin IV, aka zoso

no question that record set me off on a path from which I'll never return. Little Richard, Sandy Denny, arabic music, prog, Memphis Minnie .. all in that record. The Doors a close second.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 16 February 2003 09:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, James Brown, too. (In Zep IV that is [not as a direct first influence] - "misty mountain hop")

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 16 February 2003 09:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Not that I mean to argue with your fiercely subjective opinion on this one, because I liked and learned from those records as well. But I wonder -- do either of them still hold your attention anymore? Because they don't hold mine.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 16 February 2003 09:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 16 February 2003 09:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Are you talking to me or Tad? Well I can say that I love them both as dearly as when I first heard them, but I probably only listen to them once every year or two (just guessing). I've heard them so much there's really no point any more; too much great stuff coming out today. But yeah, absolutely -- if nothing else I appreciate those records more than when I first heard them at 12 yrs old or whatever! even if now I relatively never listen to them.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 16 February 2003 10:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Stone Roses and Orbital. I was 15 with the first and 16 with the latter; and together they basically acted as the catalyst that inspired me to look outwards from crunchy guitar indie; the Roses because as a band they were into all sorts of things I'd never heard; funk, reggae, acid house; and Orbital because it was a revelation that music sans guitars could move me so much and be so enjoyable.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 16 February 2003 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)

What I mean to say is, as a lad, I didn't know what the heck Zep were on about in that crazy-ass break during "Four Sticks"; I didn't have any context for what Plant and that woman were warbling on that ballad; I had no clue Morrison was invoking Bertolt Brecht and João Gilberto.

Now I know. But I listen to the rock records less. But I may not have taken that path w/o those classic rock warhorses to guide me.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 16 February 2003 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess I was being too vague when I said "hold your attention." What I mean is, Led Zep and The Doors both fall squarely into the category of adolescent fascinations for me, and I don't actually enjoy the records anymore. They remind me of a younger me, but not in a pleasant way. You point out that they have a lot of other music in them, and I agree that far, but nowadays I read that as being blandly derivative. I have heard the music that spawned Zepplin and Morrison, and now I see them for the hacks they were.

And... well... that's not even it, exectly. I've also heard Howlin' Wolf, but that doesn't diminish my enjoyment of Beefheart or Tom Waits. What I mean, not to put too fine a point on it, is that I have learned through careful listening that Zeppelin and the Doors suck. They just (it's all I can do right now not to apologize for this opinion) suck. They weren't very talented, save for John Bonham. I might even make an exception for Jimmy Page, but I would argue that he was past his prime by the time he got to Zep. And as for Jim Morrison... he has come to symbolize much that I hate about the world. He's pretentious in the worst, most empty way. His songwriting is thin, and to call it "derivative" is almost a compliment. Hate that guy. Fucking hate him. And I hate the part of me that ever liked him.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 16 February 2003 10:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Haha.. look I'm not defending Morrison or Percy for the people they were.. I just don't get that hung up on it, it's so historically removed ... anyway I'm talking about the groups.

blandly derivative = excitingly recombinant

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 16 February 2003 10:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Like I've said many times before, there were two specific incidents that changed my listening habits forever: 1. accidentally going to the Dark Side Of The Moon record release party at the Griffith Park Planetarium when I was 8 years old. and 2. Listening to Spacemen 3's Playing With Fire while driving/crawling through a massive Utah ice storm in 1991.

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Sunday, 16 February 2003 10:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyway, Kenan, one more point ... this recycling business - that's pop! The funny thing is everyone cries about the blues dudes they "ripped off", but actually they ripped off way more of their white contemporaries ... Spirit, Small Faces, Jeff Beck, Bert Jansch.. On the other hand, without Zep there's no Licensed to Ill! Or Scratch Acid! and so forth...

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 16 February 2003 10:44 (twenty-three years ago)

joey beltram - energy flash
cj bolland - horsepower
human resource - dominator

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 16 February 2003 11:14 (twenty-three years ago)

butthole surfers - hairway to steven

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 16 February 2003 11:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Duran Duran's first album made me the person that I am today.

kate, Sunday, 16 February 2003 11:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Violence.

Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Sunday, 16 February 2003 13:32 (twenty-three years ago)

and famine and war and disease as well.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 16 February 2003 13:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Some secondary influences-

Growing up on a ranch with bluegrass pickin' neigbors and ready access to washboards, fiddles, guitars, etc. Voracious consumption of mail order music catalogs. Headbanger's Ball (Nuclear Assault and Nirvana on the same night). Japanese Noise compilation. Ligetti. Eric Dolphy. Many other things along the way for many different reasons.

I mean my own personal experience of violence and the perpetual threat of violence, at home, at school, on the street, etc. Not as an abstract idea, but as a concrete daily reminder of mortality, passion, and the extremes of human capability (both in terms of beauty and brutality). Most of my musical choices reflect these extremes in one way or another...with the occasional and necessary escape into bubblegum for respite.

Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Sunday, 16 February 2003 13:47 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, I sort of knew what you were getting at. I like the 'physical' aspect of music. The way my nervous system gets played with (I was thinking abt this when I played Brotzmann's 'Machine gun').

I think Beefheart's 'Trout mask replica' changed things for me. All of a sudden I wasn't 'afraid' of trying 'new' things. I stopped thinking in terms of emotion. I stopped listening to songs (in the conventional sense anyway, though melody is important but not the only thing).

from there I went to free jazz, modern classical, musique concrete, improv.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 16 February 2003 13:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Jane's Addiction, NOTHING'S SHOCKING. The album that made me leave hair metal behind. And that album led me to "alternative" (Britpop, industrial, grunge, whatever else was big in the early 90s). Then in college it was dreampop, NPR, techno, blah blah blah.

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Sunday, 16 February 2003 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Surprised no one has said "Drugs" yet. :-)

Trout Mask Replica seems to be a key to many people's opening up in terms of what musical structures, tones, and colors they are able to appreciate. Classic dividing line for many people. I still think this is an album tinged with emotion though*...especially compared with the mathematical-basis of the works of Anthony Braxton, for example...then again I read emotions into the wind in the trees.

*As further evidenced by comparisons of TMR era Beefheart to U.S. Maple, whose performances are like an aborted exorcism of ill-defined primordial emotions...the precedents of fear, disgust, martyrdom, tension, etc.

Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Sunday, 16 February 2003 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

The VU & Nico probably more than anything.
Also, Sex Pistols, Clash, Public Enemy, etc.

J. Sot (J. Sot), Sunday, 16 February 2003 14:34 (twenty-three years ago)

mbv
kid a
deserters songs

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:41 (twenty-three years ago)

that's a bit of a stretch, though. i don't think specific records pointed me in a particular direction to any significant degree.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:43 (twenty-three years ago)

-Being a five year old, dancing to Michael Jackson around the house with my brother and cousins
-Parents always listening to Bob Marley Legend around the house
-Buying The Best of the Velvet Underground in 7th grade

That's pretty much the seed for everything I listen to now. K Herbert is OTM re Zepelin & the Doors, by the way

Adam A. (Keiko), Sunday, 16 February 2003 15:48 (twenty-three years ago)

i fell in love with music at about 11 when a friends older sister showed me some hendrix vinyl. After listening to mitch mitchell i just wanted to play the drums. im 21 now and still love hendrix stuff and still play the drums.

now i love pretty much all music - electronica, hip-hop, rock, metal, funk, jazz, punk etc...

i guess hendrix did shape my early tastes a lot (led zep, pixies - guitar stuff), but becuase he encompassed so many genres it lead me to funk and jazz, electronica etc.

Mr Monket (apn99), Sunday, 16 February 2003 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)

(ILM.)

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 February 2003 16:56 (twenty-three years ago)

in the womb: Wagner's Parsifal (I kicked to the music, apparently)
pre-adolescence: Yellow Submarine (the movie)? or the Hayden Planetarium's Beethoven star-show?
adolescence: Yo! MTV Raps probably had a bigger influence than I realized at the time
post-adolescence: Christgau

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 16 February 2003 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Hurm. Probably exposure to US public television in the 70's where everyone and his brother was using a synthesizer of some kind to their own twisted ends. That and the soundtrack to the series _Cosmos_ featuring guys like Tomita and Vangelis right next to classical composers (and somehow treating 'em like equals.) Hence my love of music as sound.

That and Spacemen 3, who got me out seeking out all kinds of related/inspired/historical stuff. I'd heard some of the MC5 and Stooges material before, a little Velvets and the like, but nothing whacked me over the head to start digging before _Playing with Fire_, though i heard that first at a relatively quiet New Year's party. Well, quiet except for the guy whizzing off the balcony and then trying to walk home through the scrub. Same guy. Weighed considerably more than the other partygoers, too, making the whole process a bit more difficult.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Sunday, 16 February 2003 17:26 (twenty-three years ago)

The Archies & the Jackson Five, Alice Cooper, Johnny Cash.

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 16 February 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

every record I've ever heard (except Yankee Hotel Foxtrot)

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 16 February 2003 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

No doubt about it, the C64 SID chip

nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 16 February 2003 18:35 (twenty-three years ago)

When I was 12 REM became my favorite band in all the world. And because I was an avid reader I would go to the library and look up old REM articles on microfiche and spend nickels and dimes copying old pieces from RS and Musician and Mother Jones.

And of course Peter Buck was all about namedropping influences. So by the time I was 13 I was listening to all sorts that I would blindly buy after reading that Peter Buck liked them. VU, Mission of Burma, Television, Dbs, Pylon, Feelies, Patti Smith. I would say if it wasn't for REM I wouldn't have had that history leeson that early on. I was a weird girl.

Carey (Carey), Sunday, 16 February 2003 18:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Bon Jovi - "You Give Love a Bad Name"

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 16 February 2003 19:34 (twenty-three years ago)

It would have to be pretty early, like when I still just listened to whatever my mom did, so: George Benson, Stevie Wonder, and George Michael.

Dan I., Sunday, 16 February 2003 19:44 (twenty-three years ago)

''I still think this is an album tinged with emotion though*...especially compared with the mathematical-basis of the works of Anthony Braxton, for example...then again I read emotions into the wind in the trees.''

'emotion' is one dodgy word to me when used in criticism. Few discuss emotions in music. Music seems to either have emotion or it doesn't. Music which hasn't is usually damned for it.

I really enjoy some of the Braxton I've heard.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 16 February 2003 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)

House ca 1988
Lee Scratch Perry, ca 1990
Larry Levan, ca 1995

Jan Geerinck, Sunday, 16 February 2003 20:43 (twenty-three years ago)

A weird mix of Yes, Duran Duran and Smashing Pumpkins rules the musical appreciating portion of my brain.

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 16 February 2003 22:18 (twenty-three years ago)

blondie's "heart of glass", early 80s

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 16 February 2003 22:25 (twenty-three years ago)

and yet i still hate "work it", strangely enough

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 16 February 2003 22:25 (twenty-three years ago)

And of course Peter Buck was all about namedropping influences. So by the time I was 13 I was listening to all sorts that I would blindly buy after reading that Peter Buck liked them. VU, Mission of Burma, Television, Dbs, Pylon, Feelies, Patti Smith. I would say if it wasn't for REM I wouldn't have had that history leeson that early on. I was a weird girl.

Haha -- that's the way I learned about Television, Patti Smith, and Mission of Burma.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 February 2003 22:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Sun Ra,The theremin on Good Vibrations,John Fahey,Brian Eno,masturbation and booze.

brg30 (brg30), Monday, 17 February 2003 00:07 (twenty-three years ago)

R.E.M. is where I also learned a lot of rock history (damn, I wish I knew all you back then...NOBODY I knew liked R.E.M. in my school - save this one guy James Nicholls in 6th grade who was actually related to Michael Stipe), but it was the B-52's "Cosmic Thing" that influenced my need for oddball hooks and carefree feel good perversity. That, the Beatles and "Sowing The Seeds Of Love" (gah! Did I just admit that?).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 February 2003 00:10 (twenty-three years ago)

the stooges, i guess.

duane, Monday, 17 February 2003 15:06 (twenty-three years ago)

The Top 40 Charts Show, early 80s and 1990 vintages.

The Smiths, The World Won't Listen

Public Enemy, It Takes A Nation...

The Orb, "Little Fluffy Clouds"

Tom (Groke), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:14 (twenty-three years ago)

i had actually forgotten rem,but they were my favourite band when i was little...
the first thing i remember listening to is lucy in the sky with diamonds though...

robin (robin), Monday, 17 February 2003 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)

James Brown on TV playing "Sex Machine."

B. B. King on TV hitting that one big B.B. King guitar note, over and over, that big B.B. King ring vibrating, that did it.

For pop, "Radio City."

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Monday, 17 February 2003 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

patsy cline, best of blues and souls tapes my mum used to play in the car, my bloody valentine, spacemen 3,pirate radio (esp. old skool house/ jungle, wu-tang

bobo, Monday, 17 February 2003 21:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Monkey Gone To Heaven
A Forest
Temptation (New Order)
Tainted Love
Darklands
Sometimes (Erasure)
Lucretia My Reflection
Razzmatazz
Bang!
Only Love Can Break Your Heart
The Drowners
Lazarus
Rez
Song Of Life
Didgeridoo
Rocco (Death In Vegas)
Everybody Needs A 303
Halcyon
Ping Pong
Frogs (Flaming Lips)
Take Me To Broadway
Too Much Brandy

is that too many? they're all absolutely vital to my continuing all-consuming LOVE.

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 17 February 2003 21:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Radioactive Goldfish--pure crap really, but first exposure to techno, which made me focus on music for music's sake. No messages, no versus-chorus-verse, no guitars-bass-drums. Saw music as just organized sound.
Wu Tang
Lee Perry

oops (Oops), Monday, 17 February 2003 22:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it has to be the Beatles 1969-71 (is that it? it's the one with the blue cover). cliched as it is, everything i've really been interested in has some element of the beatles in it.

Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 17 February 2003 22:28 (twenty-three years ago)

WOW GREAT QUESTION!!
hmmm its preaty much lost for me.

20 minuts after writing the first two lines of this post i think
its absolutly twisted, there's absolutly no consensus to it for me

rex jr., Monday, 17 February 2003 22:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Listening to almost only classical music as a little kid and reading a lot of fairy tales made me absolutely ADORE In Flames, which was the first metal band I ever listened to. It made me think "okay here's the other side of the fairy tale." No one else has ever quite measured up to them, although Iron Maiden, Therion and Amon Amarth have done pretty well trying.

I wonder if there was something that explains why I like the pop and rock music I do. Hmm. This is an interesting question.

Maria (Maria), Monday, 17 February 2003 22:35 (twenty-three years ago)

"The Orb, "Little Fluffy Clouds""
funny, i thoat i'd mention 'Oblivion' wich had great effect on me but there're just too many.

rex jr, Monday, 17 February 2003 22:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean my own personal experience of violence and the perpetual threat of violence, at home, at school, on the street, etc.

Awww man, I thought you were talking about Vio-lence!

As for me, taking in Mr. Bungle's Disco Volante at an early age probably did immeasurable damage. (Zorn, Japanese noise, Morricone) Later, Aphex Twin Selected Ambient Works vol. 2.

original bgm, Monday, 17 February 2003 22:44 (twenty-three years ago)

elvis costello "watching the detectives" fractured lyrics & dubspace. why didn't he do ANYTHING else like this?

kieth jarrett "facing you" i don't rate him at all now but...my first exposure to improv/solo piano and bloody hell this isn't difficult music, is it?

Sex Pistols. music in socially aware scenius shocka.

NME circa 1982. Ian Penman/Paul Morley. (I seem to remember Penman did a review of the Police live where he just bit Barthes Death of the Author & replaced the word author with the word Sting!)

Street Sounds comps. Slick contemporary black dance. Couldn't STOP listening.

Chuck Eddy. Genre/Granola essay in the Wire.

Certain drugs.

Gilles Peterson playing Inner City Life. Summer 94.

gaz (gaz), Monday, 17 February 2003 22:51 (twenty-three years ago)

The first time I saw Lightning Bolt love, summer 2001. Intense shit.

Also, discovering punk rock in middle school--bands like Minor Threat, Bad Religion and Black Flag turned me into a huge asshat.

ian johnson, Monday, 17 February 2003 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)

The first two albums I really loved were Sigur Ros' Agaetis Byrjun and Radiohead's Amnesiac (yes, I'm that young, you don't have to read anything I type). Everything else grew from that.

Callum (Callum), Monday, 17 February 2003 23:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Really, though, the truly formative musical experience was that cheesy phasing on one of the post-Diana-Ross Supremes hits, "Nathan Jones," that's the sound I've loved ever since...I came full circle when I found the sheet music (!) for it and learned to play it on the piano...

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Monday, 17 February 2003 23:20 (twenty-three years ago)


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