"Dead Man" - Original Score/Soundtrack by Neil Young - Classic or Dud?

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Following in the grand tradition of this tread,...

"REPO MAN" soundtrack: Classic or Dud

and this thread....

"Basketball Diaries" Original Motion Picture Soundtrack - Classic or Dud

to say nothing of this thread....

"Heavy Metal: Music from the Motion Picture": Classic or Dud

...I'm slowing working my way through the pile of soundtracks here at the ol' homestead, and find myself returning to this album time and again. I should preface this by saying "Dead Man" is also one of my all-time favorite films. Based around ol' grizzled Neil Young's haunting, spartan fragments of electric guitar (with minial accompaniment), snippets of dialogue and ambient sound from the film and large portions of, well, silence, it makes for 62 minutes of moody, atmospheric listening. Though Neil rarely strays from one melodic figure (when not conjuring a torrent of echoey, ghostly murmurs from the strings of his guitar), it's remarkably engaging throughout. I particularly enjoy the snippets of Billy Bob Thornton arguing with Jared Harris and Iggy Pop, framed by Neil's howling, vengeful guitar. It's minimal moodiness recalls a disturbed SPIRIT OF EDEN by Talk Talk to my ears.

What say you?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic. I love it when people score films this way, by just sitting down in front of a screen and playing along with it.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Absolute classic. The music fits the film perfectly. I have never listened to it without the visual however .. I imagine it would still be great, but maybe not for driving.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 20 February 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

the one time i saw the flick, the music was the only thing that i really liked about it, and was pretty hot on getting the sdtk at the time but never did.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's a very slow moving picture, admittedly, but worth it if you stick with in (much like Antonioni's "Blow Up," an equally slow moving picture that has literally put friends of mine to sleep when I insisted they watch it). With or without the film, the soundtrack to "Dead Man" is worth a listen, I think.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Man, if they fall asleep to Blow Up I'd hate to see what happens with L'avventura. Er, I guess they'd just fall asleep.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

can't say what i'd think if I heard the album but falling asleep would be high on the list... strong possibility of being actively pissed off since, as the spartan king of the underscoring hata brigade, i thought the movie leaned WAY too much on Neil Young just blasting off another ".....bwwwwooooooooowwwwwwwwnnnnnnnggggggggggg....." when scene X failed to deliver

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

So classic!

I love the film, but think the soundtrack can pretty much stand on its own as well. It's minimal, but has a real apocalyptic feel to it, too. It's one of my favorite albums ever...

And what's the deal with Jarmusch and great soundtracks? The RZA from the Wu-Tang Clan's soundtrack to Jarmusch's Ghost Dog is really good as well.

die9o (dhadis), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Mystery Train" has a great soundtrack as well (watch for that thread coming soon!)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

It reminds me of Loren Mazzacane Connors.

hstencil, Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

"by just sitting down in front of a screen and playing along with it."

Yeah, it's great how it's like an old-time film that way.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 20 February 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

have yet to watch dead man yet,although i have it on video around here somewhere...
the ghost dog soundtrack i know well,however,and it is exceptional...
i know tom waits has been involved in jim jarmusch films as well,night on earth and down by law anyway,he obviously knows his music...

robin (robin), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

''It reminds me of Loren Mazzacane Connors.''

it has that 'minimal' (not minimalist heh) guitar quality to it.

I've only seen the movie and the soundtrack makes it bearable. A load of twangs it may be but the ways neil plays it keeps me from drifting off.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

the theme song is SOOOOOO classic...

it's like the best Black Heart Procession song they never wrote.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 February 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

i love the theme, too. very reminiscent of morricone spaghetti western scores.

i also happen to think dead man kind of gets the short shrift stacked next to other jarmusch films, but i love westerns.

jonathan quayle higgins, Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

See, I like Jarmusch's other films, but think Dead Man is my favorite.

About Jarmusch and music: he played in the Del-Byzanteens in the early '80s. see here

die9o (dhadis), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes, to JQHiggins point, it's actually one of my favorite Jarmusch films.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

i love Dead Man for the how tragically ridiculous it portrays the act of pulling a trigger; and for its visual and thematic rhymes; actually i love it for the way it fails to "deliver" in trad western terms - and i think that's why i hated the soundtrack, it filled all those lovely lurching ridiculous gaps, those yawning silver-black voids, with big old clint eastwood bad-ass "bwwwwwwooooooooowwwwwwooooooooooonnnnngggggggggggg..... bwEEEEEEErrrrrrannnnnnggggg"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

</pet peeve>

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

well, to me a western is a movie that occurs in the old american west/southwest. there are all manner of themes be it trad western hero g vs e, more symbolic films like stagecoach or the searchers, or the post-modern westerns of leone and beyond (stacked w/ anti-heroes, moral ambiguity and kurosawa references)

jq higgins, Thursday, 20 February 2003 21:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

depp in the movie is a cruelly stunted mystery. the land he travels through is wrecked, wrecked and evil. i think the guitar is supposed to sound like that, like some primordial evil of the land. enough senseless cruelty with a gun can make you a icon to the brainless; this country was dead before it even began; there is a gap between cultures that a frenzied manifest destiny has rendered permanently uncrossable, even to the open-minded; i fuckin love this movie because it shows us a very different type of America than the one we've come to dream about through Westerns, including ALL the types you mention there. it shows us the other types of dreams we have, the not-good ones, and how these too might have been born in the hallucination of the American west.

Neil Young gets the keening evil thing down, the ominous yawning of certain doom, so i guess you can't fault him (though as i mentioned above i think it's close enough to a type of stub-out-your-cigarette Eastwood badassness to effectively undercut some of the movie's strongest themes). my main prob - not confined to this movie or this director - is that Jarmusch and his sound editor make it barge in at every opportunity, like this camera-eye you can't escape from. I'm in the wild freakin west, man WHERE ARE ALL THOSE AMPS HIDDEN?? there are many beautifully haunting moments of loss, bewilderment, and even humor that are simply blindsided by Young's primordial reverbed drone-o-stortion - "oh yeah, THAT's how i'm supposed to feel", thanks Neil - that even divorced from the picture, frozen on wax, I honestly just can't forgive it.

(looks like i closed the pet-peeve section to early, sorry - my friends will all attest to my penchant for shouting angrily at anything that leans too heavily on the underscoring. including parties at people's houses. i cut Jarmusch - and his circumstantial accomplice Young - no slack on this count)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 February 2003 23:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic - the soundtrack was what made the film stand out for me. It totally set the mood / the eery simplicitiy

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Friday, 21 February 2003 00:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love Neil's guitar anyways and this great movie is made by the soundtrack. Tracer's crit seems to be that the sound is too simplistic. I reckon it's right simplistic. BeeeeeeeeeeOOOnggggggg Braaaaaaaaangg. And why not?

jizzmeister, Friday, 21 February 2003 03:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

i really love this film and the sndtrk
classic

chaki (chaki), Friday, 21 February 2003 03:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

me too.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 21 February 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Note the sound of one of Neil's vintage Buicks revving deep in the sound mix.

bingo, Friday, 21 February 2003 04:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've noticed that.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 February 2003 04:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
the film is a classic and i love love the simple droney gtr variations, but i have to say i was expecting some type of drum/percussion entrance at some point within the sndtrck...or just a bit less of the gtr and more silence

kephm, Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

May I also say, a little off-topic, that Tom Waits' soundtrack for Night on Earth (a movie I don't really like) is a really great record to put on when you're playing cards.

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

"more silence" = my formula for making all films 10000000x bettah!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
This is on IFC right now. Damn I love this film. Also have to say that while I disagree with his feelings on the soundtrack, Tracer Hand's commentary above was quite verily OTM. Anyone know the score on Jarmusch's new one?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 May 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Michael Wincott's portrayal of talkative bounty hunter Conway Twill never fails to fuckin' crack me up.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 May 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

been in my ALL DAY and making me go buy a delay pedal tomorrow

iiiijjjj, Sunday, 2 March 2008 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

my head

iiiijjjj, Sunday, 2 March 2008 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I've been on a real Neil Young kick of late. I even like the Trans album, which I know I might get clobbered for.

I'd like to hear this soundtrack.

Bimble, Sunday, 2 March 2008 06:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Works fine with the film, horribly on its own. Trans cuts it easily.

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 2 March 2008 07:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Was this ever released on vinyl??

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 2 March 2008 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Caught up with this recently - a great, great movie, and the soundtrack is just perfect. Double bill with 'El Topo'?

Soukesian, Sunday, 2 March 2008 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I've only heard the soundtrack, which a friend demanded that I listen to last week. Never seen the film, though I definitely want to now.

Works fine with the film, horribly on its own.

I dunno, I really enjoyed it! That said, by the end of the album, I was in an absolutely awful mood, even though I was really just making eggs and toast in pajamas and reading a magazine. Ominous as hell.

Z S, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Agree with Tracer's well-expressed sentiments in general, just not in regards to this specific film, which I love, soundtrack and all.

Lostandfound, Sunday, 2 March 2008 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

love this soundtrack and movie. also makes a nice background music for gardening/digging holes/landscaping

6335, Monday, 3 March 2008 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link

It's damn good and I usually don't like Young too much. You've inspired me to pull it out and give it a listen for the first time in ages. I remember it being especially powerful the first time I saw the film in the theater in 1996, just the way it would sort of roll up at just the right time in there

Jeff LeVine, Monday, 3 March 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I had (have) a friend that used to love to play this on his guitar, all the time. Summer of 98

Billy Pilgrim, Monday, 3 March 2008 03:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Was this ever released on vinyl??

yes

energy flash gordon, Monday, 3 March 2008 04:34 (sixteen years ago) link

This is so fukkin classic. It's beautiful music.

W4LTER, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 08:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember when it came out i made my friend buy it.

W4LTER, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 08:50 (sixteen years ago) link

classic, classic, classic

blunt, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

beeeeeeyoooooooooiiinnnoooooooyyyooiiinnngggggggggggggggggwwwaaaaaaannngggggggggggggggggg

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

sigur ros for ry cooder fans

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

brrrrrrrrrrrrrang brankkkkk brankkkkk bvhhhhhzggggzzzz

caek, Sunday, 22 February 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

terrible's what it is. i can't drink whisky like i used to could. my old belly just ain't no count. i git the shits every time.

caek, Sunday, 22 February 2009 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

burns like hellfire

Lostandfound, Sunday, 22 February 2009 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i always liked how ebert described it as sounding like young was dropping his guitar over and over

temple of butts (cankles), Sunday, 22 February 2009 05:09 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

these beans is shit

caek, Friday, 12 February 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

completely wrecks the movie

bnw, Friday, 12 February 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

nah

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 12 February 2010 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

great, great soundtrack

tylerw, Friday, 12 February 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

"bwwwwwwooooooooowwwwwwooooooooooonnnnngggggggggggg..... bwEEEEEEErrrrrrannnnnnggggg"

bnw, Friday, 12 February 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ bnw efficiently describes why the Dead Man soundtrack is an incredible gut-rattler.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

this movie is really schizoid. some great stuff, some unwatchable stuff. funny stuff is not funny at all. and i LOVE stranger than paradise. jarmusch shot his bolt early and has been coasting for 25 years IMO.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 February 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i got an electric guitar recently and found out how easy this score must have been to make

abanana, Friday, 12 February 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Dead Man and Ghost Dog are slow moving, but somehow held my attention much more than his first movies. At any rate, any missteps are now forgiven, as this is just in:

All Tomorrow's Parties will return to Kutsher's Country Club, Monticello for the third ATP New York festival over Labor Day weekend, running from Friday 3rd September – Sunday 5th September. We are very excited to announce that legendary film-maker Jim Jarmusch, well known for his fantastic collaborations and documentaries with musicians will be the guest curator on Sunday 5th.

Born in Akron, Ohio, Jim Jarmusch lives and works in New York. His films include Permanent Vacation (1980), Stranger than Paradise (1984), Down by Law (1986), Mystery Train (1989), Night on Earth (1991), Dead Man (1995), Year of the Horse (1997), Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai (1999), Coffee and Cigarettes (2003), Broken Flowers (2005) and The Limits of Control (2009).

As previously announced, Friday 3rd September features these performances as part of our Don't Look Back day:

IGGY & THE STOOGES performing Raw Power
SLEEP performing Holy Mountain
MUDHONEY performing Superfuzz Bigmuff + Early Singles
THE SCIENTISTS performing Blood Red River (first ever U.S. Show)
+ more to be confirmed!

Fuck yea!

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 12 February 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah that should be sick. Jarmusch has awesome taste.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 February 2010 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

he does have good taste. soundtrack albums often better than the movies! (see e.g. coffee and cigarettes.)

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 12 February 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

To be fair the soundtrack to virtually any movie is probably better than Coffee & Cigarettes.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 February 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the crow ost is the worst record i have ever heard

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 13 February 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Touche.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 13 February 2010 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

on the topic of his tastes in music, this extended invisible jukebox session with jarmusch is v good

zvookster, Saturday, 13 February 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

classique

lukevalentine, Saturday, 13 February 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i got an electric guitar recently and found out how easy this score must have been to make

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Kz8Nxb-Bg

Derelict, Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

these beans is shit

― caek, Friday, February 12, 2010 7:31 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ lane pryce from mad men btw!

caek, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/shot0001.png

caek, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I can do a really funny lane impression, but I have to hear him for a few minutes first

well my wife thinks it's funny

Faerie Liquide (admrl), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yes

the lushly coarse physicality of the sleeve was the only thing that has ever tempted me to hear the soundtrack out of the context of the film – in fact, nor have I seen the film apart from once, in the cinema, alone, when it was first released. The combination of style, story and score on a GREAT BIG SCREEN with REALLY LOUD SPEAKERS in the DARK was so great that I walked out thinking “I don’t ever want to experience any of that in lesser surroundings.”

♫ Ba-sic space, o-pen air ♪ (sic), Thursday, 30 September 2010 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw it in the theater with a date. After the movie, I asked what she thought.
She said, "What do I think? I think we should have been on heroin for that thing!"

David Allah Coal (sexyDancer), Thursday, 30 September 2010 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link

recently watched dead man projected outdoors. the sound was actually rather shitty and disappointing--just the way they had the speakes set up relative to our position i guess. think heroin would be a bad idea. booze imo.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Thursday, 30 September 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

if u did heroin and alcohol u could end up a dead man yrself

this is such a great film and score

last jarmusch film was waste

The Managing Director of Being (nakhchivan), Thursday, 30 September 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Screenshot2010-09-29at004605.png

caek, Thursday, 30 September 2010 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

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caek, Thursday, 30 September 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/VA6Ra.jpg

The Managing Director of Being (nakhchivan), Thursday, 30 September 2010 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Screenshot2010-09-29at010521.png

caek, Thursday, 30 September 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

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caek, Thursday, 30 September 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

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caek, Thursday, 30 September 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

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caek, Thursday, 30 September 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I was stoned as fuck when I first wandered into the theater to see this - highly recommended

pro bono toilet snaking (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 September 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Jarmusch's best imho

pro bono toilet snaking (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 September 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

here's white man's metal next to your heart.
I tried to cut it out, but it's too deep inside.
A knife would cut your heart instead...
and release the spirit from within.
stupid fucking white man.

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 30 September 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx3ajYfbzcw

yuoowemeone, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

i always liked how ebert described it as sounding like young was dropping his guitar over and over

― temple of butts (cankles), Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:09 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ebert's not a Neil fan, apparently. He picked Year Of The Horse as the worst film of 1997.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

I love the soundtrack, though. That descending figure that keeps recurring is one of my favorite moments of his whole career.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

Wanted this on LP but it's like almost $400!!

What else is like it?

/\ /\ Delete post (admrl), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

some of Earth's stuff

Brightblack Morning Light, kinda

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

Earth yes, don't know if I really hear it in Brightblack Morning Light.
This is one of the best soundtracks of all time and one of the best thing Neil's done. So, so good.

LaMonte, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

Also, Alan Sparhawk's Solo Guitar is kinda like this.

LaMonte, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

six years pass...

Billy Bob Thornton's delivery of the phrase "by God" is a thing of beauty

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

"it gives me the shits every time"

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

i put this on last night while cooking. holds up.

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

can't drink whiskey like a usedtacould

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link


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