COO: Das Damen or Die Kreuzen

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Daas Damen or Die Kreuzen? Only you know the true answer.
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baby blake, Sunday, 23 February 2003 03:10 (twenty-three years ago)

What a weird grouping.

Das Damen, says I.

paul cox (paul cox), Sunday, 23 February 2003 03:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I have the Die Kruezen 7" with the Wire and Germs covers and it is one of the few 7" that I regularly make an effort to play. Totally amazing/classic. They're certainly the prototype for Drive Like Jehu. (Ps - what album is good by them?)

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Sunday, 23 February 2003 03:54 (twenty-three years ago)

That'd be the "Land of Treason" 7", which rawks!

Die Kreuzen were light years better than fuckin' Das Damen.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)

The first Die Kreuzen album and the second,the more metally October File, are both excellent through and through.Seek them both out.Note:Touch&Go has still not re-released the first Necros album which is also great if different.Buy a bootleg on ebay.

Scott Seward, Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Das EFX and the Das Boot soundtrack are BOTH better than Das Damen.

Scott Seward, Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Die Kreuzen

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Sunday, 23 February 2003 06:01 (twenty-three years ago)

das damen. sad mile b/w making time. lovely

smudger (smudger), Sunday, 23 February 2003 07:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I almost wanna say Das Damen because of Lyle...

hstencil, Sunday, 23 February 2003 08:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Jesus, that is so one sided, it's uncruel

Die Kreuzen. No contest.
Their first self titled album (from 1982?) is still perhaps the most precision hardcore i've heard.
After that, they embraced 'metal'and 'raawk' with much more inventiveness than the likes of the faltering Black Flag and the rest of the increasingly aimless, pothead SST bands like DAS DAMEN.

panico (panico), Sunday, 23 February 2003 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been obsessed with the following 2001 compilation, which contains an alternate version of Die Kreuzen's classic "All White" and another track by the band: History in 3 Chords: Milwaukee Alternative Bands, 1973-1982.

Here's the info on the CD: Splunge Communications, P.O. Box 71227, Milwaukee, WI 53211, www.splungecomm.com

But it now.

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 24 February 2003 07:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, buy it now.

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 24 February 2003 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I cannot say how much the "Land of Treason" 7" slays....

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 February 2003 20:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, Das Damen. I had rock and roll crushes on them.

I still listen to TRISKAIDEKAPHOBE on occasion, a fine slice of psych rock. I have a soft spot for their cover of "Making Time".

Plus, you know that whole MARSHMELLOW CONSPIRACY thing.

jodi shapiro (burun), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Die Kreuzen of course! AAAAAAUUUGGGGHHH! (Approximating horrendous and wonderful shreik)

matt riedl (veal), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)

seven years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPNilVxE5lQ

iiiijjjj, Sunday, 9 May 2010 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

(Double posted to the Das Damen thread on the All Noise Dude board)

What the... https://dromedaryrecords.bandcamp.com/album/1986-keeps-me-wild

Revolutionary NYC rock quartet Das Damen have returned with a deluxe reissue of their landmark 1986 debut EP, 1986: It Keeps Me Wild. Newly remastered and augmented with an array of previously unreleased demos, reimagined tracks, and a brand-new issue of Das Damen drummer Lyle Hysen’s legendary fanzine, Damaged Goods (featuring a comprehensive timeline, show flyers, oral history, testimonials from Thurston Moore, Tom Scharpling, and more), DAS DAMEN will be released digitally via Dromedary Records on Friday, September 8, and will include a downloadable copy of the zine. A deluxe vinyl edition will be available in October. Pre-saves and pre-orders are available now.

+Thalia Zedek on one song! And they're playing at WFMU next month. Nutty!

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:50 (two years ago)

From the songs that sound like other songs thread

I've always felt DD were sort of an underappreciated foreshock [...] of '90s indie rock

― Clientless (Scooter's Version) (morrisp),

I can hear that now having just listened to more Das Damen today than I had in the past 30 years. Seems like Triskaidekaphobe should be held in higher esteem. Was kinda blown away hearing how much the first song sounded like Pavement, esp since I only really remembered "Bug" and...one other song whose name I already don't recall.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 22:29 (two years ago)

Very cool to learn they're being reissued / reuniting. I've been a fan since discovering their LPs (cheap/used) decades ago... I have both the original pressing of their EP (on Ecstatic Peace) and the SST reissue, and the latter came with a cool press kit inside (...or maybe it was the copy of Jupiter Eye, which makes more sense; I like that album in particular, btw).

Their songs are often great, and playing is loose and sloppy – maybe sometimes to a fault. I've wondered if the records don't reflect how they good they may have been live. They did "tighten up" for their last few records, and Mousetrap (on Twin/Tone) is a particularly good batch of songs, but the energy was kinda gone at the end (so maybe sloppy was better). Anyway, they deserve another moment in the sun!

Clientless (Scooter's Version) (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 23:51 (two years ago)

Yeah, listening to Mousetrap now and maybe the production just isn't right for them? Not that Wharton Tiers was some studio wizard on the first couple of albums, kinda muddy tbh, but something in between might have served em well. Just not as much fun here.

These guys prob should've been on Twin/Tone from the start. It put out like half as many releases/year as SST in those days. Looking over the Discogs entry Triskaidekaphobe deserved at least as much attention than, I dunno, a Brian Ritchie or Lee Renaldo solo album.

(As I type that, I hear "Somewhere Sometime" might as well be on Soul Asylum's Hang Time. Not an insult imo.)

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 24 August 2023 13:38 (two years ago)

woops...that should've been "Someone Somwehere". Oh, and the Marshmellow Conspiracy lawsuit/recall couldn't have helped anything, either.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 24 August 2023 13:57 (two years ago)

I’ve been waiting for “Sad Mile,” from Mousetrap, to be discovered for a soundtrack or something…

Clientless (Scooter's Version) (morrisp), Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:02 (two years ago)

Yeah, good one! Reminded me a lot of Soul Asylum's "Can’t Go Back" up until the psych solo.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:11 (two years ago)


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