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... For A Place In Hell!!
Style Council because Paul Weller was a critics darling and he split up a perfectly good band to form TSC. Hucknall was just a ginger tosser.

― Frances Shelmerdine, Sunday, 23 February 2003 03:41 (twenty-three years ago)

And there was two pretentious assholes in The Style Council.

― Frances Shelmerdine, Sunday, 23 February 2003 03:42 (twenty-three years ago)

The dismissive -- if not outright hostile -- attitude so many people seem to have about the Style Council exemplifies why Weller split the Jam to form TSC in the first place: a retaliation against the notion that music isn't valid unless it "rocks." The Style Council made some awful, thoroughly dated-sounding records, but they made some great ones too. "Confessions of a Pop Group" is due for serious reappraisal; the mid-'90s resurgence of Bacharach pastiches didn't produce too many songs better than "It's a Very Deep Sea."

― Michael White, Sunday, 23 February 2003 05:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Just because he split The Jam as a retaliation that music isnt valid unless 'it rocks' doesnt mean THSC were any good. People wouldnt have been quite so hostile if they had been good i dont think.

― Frances Shelmerdine, Sunday, 23 February 2003 05:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Michael = OTM. Side 1 of 'Confessions...' is fantastic. For the most part, The Style Council were an easy target. I love almost everything they did and I feel no need to apologize. Simply Red barely registers in my brain. Good vocals, I guess.

― Bryan (Bryan), Sunday, 23 February 2003 06:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I did write that they made some awful records, but scores of people are of the opinion that TSC never did *anything* of worth, and I think for many of those people that opinion stems from the fact that they could never forgive Weller splitting up the Jam. Hey, your opinion is your own and is as valid as any, but I find it astonishing that anyone who enjoyed "The Gift" or the final two Jam singles could say the band that made "Speak Like a Child," "My Ever Changing Moods," "It Didn't Matter," "It's a Very Deep Sea," "Changing of the Guard," etc., weren't "any good."

― Michael White, Sunday, 23 February 2003 06:42 (twenty-three years ago)

...Oh, and thank you, Bryan.

― Michael White, Sunday, 23 February 2003 06:45 (twenty-three years ago)

The Swingle Singers ROXOR!!! I just got TSC's box, and the last previously unreleased album (which I think was released just after the box came out?) is PURE CRAP. "The Story of Someone's Shoe" is classic if only becasue it's the only song which discusses cum dripping down someone's leg that I can think of.

― Bryan (Bryan), Sunday, 23 February 2003 06:52 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

Jesus....they're my wife's two favorite bands, alas.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael White OTM. Sure you miss the Jam, who doesn't? But if they were together now they'd be playing some useless festival and we'd still be stuck w/Oasis and Ocean Colour Scene anyway. Conversely, listen to "Beat Surrender" or "The Bitterest Pill"- heading toward TSC territory. Should Weller have stayed in the marriage so Foxton and Buckler could keep their jobs? They'd be unhappy with the Cappuccino Kid. You know it. Some things just have to happen, and this was one of them.
Sorry if that was garbled...I guess I'm on the side of Weller. Mick Hucknall can suck a fuck.

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

OH wow the potential this thread held. *Deep Breath*

Well I was just looking for a Simply Red thread to say that "Something Got Me Started" is actually way cool and I wonder what album that is on because I bet the rest of the tracks suck in comparison.

Also I have just discovered the first Paul Weller album from 1992 which is thankfully much more like Style Council than the Oasis copycat shite he did later on. Really...if Weller isn't jazzy, soulful, or funky, he can go to hell for all I care. Although...has he tried blues yet? Nah I doubt it.

― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 31 May 2008 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

And yes I know he's got a new album out.

― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 31 May 2008 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

simply red sucked, style council had a couple of good tunes early on. "long hot summer" and "my ever changing moods" are nicely arranged little tunes!

suppose they both had a go at the tories, easy target or not.

― jeremy waters, Saturday, 31 May 2008 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

I loved the first SC album and disliked everything by SR therefore Weller wins. Which is not something I feel often.

― Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

Let's give a shout-out to the TSC instrumentals: "Mick's Up", "Council Meetin'", "Dropping Bombs on the White House". What's not to love?

― Eazy, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

Though I got off the train pretty early on, at Internationalists/Our Favourite Shop. Pretty much every band I love from that Brit jazz/pop era made a good record that sounded like a jazz record (first Everything but the Girl LP and EPs, The Style Council, Carmel) and then glossed things up. Sade didn't change.

― Eazy, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Oh man, you know under threat of gunfire, I'd choose Style Council, but this one beats the shit out of Style Council:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrUB0g8Vjgg

― Cover Up The Hotness (Bimble), Sunday, 28 June 2009 11:58 (sixteen years ago)

The only thing that would make spare the Style Council is that excruciating article by Hucknall arguing for extended copyright protection as the authentic socialist way.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 28 June 2009 12:39 (sixteen years ago)

Gotta be Style Council, who at least had the good taste to break up.

― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 28 June 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)

"The Story of Someone's Shoe" is classic if only becasue it's the only song which discusses cum dripping down someone's leg that I can think of.
― Bryan (Bryan), Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:52 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Check out "Some fool's mess" by Gallon Drunk, it's much better.

I, well, loved the Style Council, up to the point when they were on some TVshow playing songs from their upcoming album, "The cost of loving". I cued up the video to record it, and ended up stopping and rewinding, it was that disappointing. I eventually bought a cassette on holiday in Jersey, and it was 'nice enough' for driving around to, but didn't go back to it.

Similarly, I got "Confessions" some time after in a shopsale, butplaying the LP, found I couldn't sit in the sam room as it.

When I got the BoxSet, I did at least make it through, but no, do not want.

Had "Modernism" come out back then, I'd have loved it as much as I do now. I like it a lot. They had a fairly decent sized hit with "Promised Land", so this could have been a new and refreshed band. (heck, maybe i'd have enjoyed the famous ALbHall gig, but I'd seen them there before and been underwhelmed but then we were all in the gods, so no.

― Mark G, Monday, 29 June 2009 07:07 (sixteen years ago)

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