working at a record store

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OK, so like the rest of you here, I'm ridiculously obsessed with music and possess a rather large amount of musical knowledge compared to my friends.

My friends all say i should be working in a record store. This would be nice, but none of the record stores in Seattle are adverising that they need employees. My friends say this doesn't matter; if they were aware of how much I knew about music, they'd hire me in an instant. This seems like a rather silly presumption.

So how the hell does one get to work at a record store? It's not easy, is it? Is this a dumbass question??

juice (juice), Monday, 24 February 2003 00:27 (twenty-three years ago)

a) ask them if they have any jobs going. they may consider you next time they have an opening. i'm sure there must be a decent turnover for such a crappily paid job

b) open your own

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 24 February 2003 00:29 (twenty-three years ago)

odds are they will ask you, although it helps to actually know the people. working in a record store = overrated.

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 24 February 2003 00:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Who you be knowing is probably the most important thing. Like anything else in life, your relationships with people are what opens doors for you.

I worked in a few stores when I was younger and it was a good time. It is a fun job, but I really could not afford to have a job that paid starvation wages. A couple years ago I was asked to do the electronic music ordering at a local indie shop. It would have been a good opportunity, but they were offering peanuts. Again, it is a fun job, but not if you want to eat, pay rent, and maintain a car.

Mr. Blount is OTM, working at a record store = vastly overrated

Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 24 February 2003 02:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Only if you're working at an indie store, too. Chain stores with their mind-numbing company cd's and the hoops they have their employees jump through ("Thank you for calling (whatever), where you can pre-order your DVD of The Hot Chick!") are not fun.

Prude, Monday, 24 February 2003 02:16 (twenty-three years ago)


And to answer the question directly:

I worked at Musicland when I was in high school, and for that I just walked in and applied.

I worked at Repeat The Beat for a summer after high school, and I got that by becoming good friends with the guy who managed the store.

The nameless indie store asked me because I was special ordering about 60-100$ bucks worth of minimal techno and IDM vinyl a week from them for about 4 months before I turned to S://kimo. They had no idea what I was ordering, and actually stocked their electronic section according to my purchases. After I stopped shopping there they asked me to do their ordering. The only problem was they wanted to pay virtually nothing to do it. I counter offered and they never replied back.

They tried doing it themselves and absolutely fell on their faces. There are some soul grapes over it, because I feel like they were really trying to pimp me, and I wasn't going to have it. I have no idea what is going on these days in EM, but back then I knew a thing or two. A lot of owners want a knowledgeable staff, and want to sell records according to your tastes, but they don't want to pay for your specialist knowledge. I am not going to say that I am bitter, but I am wary of selling records for anyone other than myself these days.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 24 February 2003 02:30 (twenty-three years ago)

soul grapes

i'm just imagining what sort of wine you could make from soul grapes..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 24 February 2003 02:35 (twenty-three years ago)

You mean Marvin Grapes?

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 24 February 2003 02:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Please let's not get into the California Raisins.

tom (other one), Monday, 24 February 2003 02:53 (twenty-three years ago)

word to freudian slips. :)

perhaps my second post belongs in the "We've all made mistakes" thread.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 24 February 2003 02:54 (twenty-three years ago)

i remember the old repeat the beat location where all the pseudo-punks would loiter in front all day long i always drove by to go to play it again, repeat the beat was pretty lame especially when they bootlegged all the pal videos and jacked up the prices. were you there then? when it was on main, instead of where it is now, i am assuming this is in royal oak?

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 24 February 2003 02:55 (twenty-three years ago)

No, I was over in Plymouth. This was the summer of 97. The store was pretty lame for the most part. My memories of that store were me freaking out the White bread Plymouth people by blasting the Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson greatest hits comps that had come out around that time. I also remember playing a lot Spiritualized, Brian Eno, and Wilco. I spent a lot of time digging through the used section.

It was fun because I opened the store, and did not have to deal with the high school kids. It was pretty much me playing records and sorting cd's. I can think of a few worse ways to spend an afternoon. It was fairly quiet, there was not nearly as much traffic as the Dearborn or Royal Oak stores. It was never a citadel of cool, but it was still miles ahead of working at a corporate chain store.

I can only imagine how bad it was, Royal Oak is pretty horrible no matter how you slice it. It did have good record stores back then, it seems like Neptune is the only one left these days.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 24 February 2003 03:55 (twenty-three years ago)

No matter how much you know about music, almost no record store will pay much more than near-starvation level wages. The kid at the McDonald's drive-thru will probably be making more money than you.

There are better jobs. I'd pursue the record store thing only if it's not your only job.

Mean Guy, Monday, 24 February 2003 06:00 (twenty-three years ago)

don't worry--none of the Seattle record stores are worth working at anyway. (hah!) Nonstop Jen is moving out there, though, and talked about opening one of her own....

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Two things -- 1) Don't climb aboard an industry in so much trouble. Bad, bad time to be working at a record store.

and 2) Record stores will suck your soul. Unless it's a really tiny genre-oriendted indie run by your friends, working at a record store will make you cynical about music, and the music industry, and... well, about people. People are stupid. The first time you see a long line of middle aged women waiting to buy tickets to the Thirty Odd Foot of Grunts show, you will know what I mean. It's bloody depressing.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Kenan speaks so much truth it so ain't funny..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Here is my best advice. Get an application, and when you give it back to them, stick it an envelope with the most well thought out brillant mixtape you have ever made. It works, and I'm proof of it. It sounds cheesy but it works.

mallory bourgeois (painter man), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know Mallory. You're a girl. Girls can do that, because male rock geeks are really impressed with any girl who's not limited to Tori and Ani DiFranco. And, sure, that's their blind prejudice at work mostly, but that's why that worked for you. Male rock geeks are in no short supply.

But if juice is a girl, I say yes, run with that idea.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah I forgot to mention that if you are a guy, they might think you are a creep who spends his weekends refiling his records chrono style, instead of a a girl refiling her lps in a camisole, unless you are into that.

mallory bourgeois (painter man), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm into that. Never got me a job, though.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, and I forgot. Don't only make the non-Tori mix, but make sure that when you drop it off, you're wearing a tight top. That job is yours, baby.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Hell, when I applied I wore nothing but two Dobie Gray 45's as pasties.

mallory bourgeois (painter man), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:49 (twenty-three years ago)

You wore 45's as pasties? How big...

Oh, let me just stop myself right there.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:50 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread is not going to the right direction. You should be ashamed of yourself.

mallory bourgeois (painter man), Monday, 24 February 2003 08:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I rather am, if it's any consolation to you.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 24 February 2003 08:35 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...
Oh dear. Well, I may have the opportunity to possibly get work at a fair-sized, well-stocked record store. It's not really the type of work I'm looking for (hoho!), but should I take it if offered? Just for a while? Even part-time? Are they really any perks to it whatsoever?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

would it be out of line to name names?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, I was waiting fer you to pop up. Ummmm...Well, it's one of the Bay Area "biggies". I'd better not until I know what's happening-check yr email!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

will do, anastasia... *wink*

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i work at one and am constantly cycling through feelings of hope and cynicism. people are stupid. they buy shit. and since they all buy the same shit, we have to use limited shelf space to stock said shit, which means that we cant even take advantage of the money we make off of shit to stock more non-shit. at one point we had more norah jones cds in the store than miles davis cds. i dont hate norah jones. i just think people should buy more miles davis.

when i was hopeful i would sit around and try and devise ways to make things better, but ultimately these things would require a lot more agression on our part, and nobody seems to want to rock the boat. our soulution to losing money on cds is to stock more dvds. thats it. as soon as everyone has broadband, more people will pirate movies, and then our store will just be sideline items (cute picture books of cats and dogs and also chocolate bars).

i used to want to work there full time and really help out, but now i have cut my hours significantly, and am basically just taking advantage of the discount (35%). also the other employees are nice.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)


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