"Difficult Shapes and Passive Rhythms - Some People Think It's Fun To Entertain".
What's the twattiest album title you've ever seen (or bought)?
― C J (C J), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― dan brain, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 15:59 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Aaron A., Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:11 (twenty-three years ago)
grt albm tho
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― michael (michael), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)
It's up there with the artist blah blah Prince
― j0e (j0e), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)
(My knowledge of this is proof that I used to listen to indie in the 80's.)
― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)
That's the point, they created it as a ridiculous and not necessarily funny joke. In which case, did they fail or succeed? ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)
Also BDP's By Any Means Necessary
Pretentious =/ stupid
― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:59 (twenty-three years ago)
Pretentious (title and artist both).
― die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Is "We have the facts and we're voting yes" too obvious? That always annoyed me. There's also Eminem using a different one of his names for each album (oh, that's a concept... right.)
― Alexis, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)
They wish...
― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:22 (twenty-three years ago)
Devendra Banhart's debut title is a bit trying ('Oh me oh my .. the way the day goes by the sun is setting dogs are dreaming lovesongs of the christmas spirit') but it's redeemed by the album's cover art (see here: http://www.younggodrecords.com/Releases/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=26)
I really like this parody of the Wavy Gravy school of titles, 'The Three Terrors In Their 1885 Transploding Styrofoam Holo-Graphic Octopus', the title of a one off show at the Bowery Ballroom by Stephin Merritt & pals.
'Some Girls' by the Stones has to win some prize for the most misogynistic groupie-banging album title in history.
― mick hall, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:23 (twenty-three years ago)
1.Black Dragons soar above the Mountain of Shadows - Keyboard Instrumental 2.To dethrone the Witch-Queen of Mytos K'unn (The legend of the battle of Blackhelm Vale) 3.As the Vortex illuminates the cystalline walls of Kor-Avul-Thaa 4.Starfire burning upon the ice-veiled throne of Ultima Thule 5.Journey to the Isle of Mists (Over the moonless depths of night-dark seas) 6.The Splendour of a thousand swords gleaming beneath the blazon of the Hyperborean Empire 7.. And lo, when the Imperium marches against Cul-Kothoth, then dark sorceries shall enshroud the Citadel of the Obsidian Crown 8.Summoning the Guardians of the Astral Gate 9.In the Raven-haunted forests of Darkenhold, where Shadows reign and the hues of sunlight never dance 10.At the altar of the Dreaming Gods
― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)
I nominate all self-titled records, but especially non-debut self-titled albums. Bo Diddley is the only artist allowed to do this, as he is Bo Freakin' Diddley. The band called Chicago is therefore the most pretentiously-titled band of all time.
Oh, and I really like super-pretentious titles of the kind cited above. More self-glorification! Hey, Yume Bitsu, who called a record Giant Surface Music Falling to Earth Like Jewels From the Sky! I am in fact calling you out...for a hug!
― Neudonym, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― robin (robin), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:44 (twenty-three years ago)
("The Eminem Show" strikes me as being a fair degree of aggrandisement away from, ooh, "It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back" or "Follow The Leader", say)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)
I want to also add that A Rush of Blood to the Head is pretty damned pretentious. Not evil or wrong, just pretentious. Makes me like Coldplay just a little bit.
― Neudonym, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)
It's unfair to say the whole album focused on the group. "She Watch Channel Zero" and "Night of the Living Baseheads" dealt w/other issues. "Cold Lampin'" was a nice diversion. And "Caught...", while focusing on the group itself, was not about anyone's fascination w/them.
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:03 (twenty-three years ago)
ITANOM... is my fave record ever BTW. The Eminem Show is not.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:10 (twenty-three years ago)
I love that title!
I nominate Terence Trent D'arby's entire catalog, or at least his first four. (How many has he got?) Anyone who habitually uses their own name and a possessive "s" in their album titles...And even a colon in the debut for, chrissakes.
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 03:30 (eighteen years ago)
i'm sure the band has some idea that its products are going to reach a global audience, and is conscious of trying to outsmart its naive anglophone listeners with some faux sort of exoticism.
I'm not sure I agree- they are titling them in their native language, and they do have fans in Iceland, I'm sure. And besides, Sigur Ros means Victory Rose IIRC, which is pretty pedestrian as far as album titles go. On the other hand, there is no excuse for the fucking parentheses album, packaging and all.
― Telephone thing, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 04:46 (eighteen years ago)
yeah, you're probably right :)
― Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 05:11 (eighteen years ago)
That Aeroplane one by Neutral Milk Hotel or whoever it was.
― Mike Dixn, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)
Actually that was Olivia Tremor Control.
― Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 06:17 (eighteen years ago)
I'm going to state the obvious here, an obvious that others have more than alluded to, but why do so many ILMers interpret "pretentious" as a pejorative? I mean, it can be, but, hey...
― Lostandfound, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 06:20 (eighteen years ago)
And as much as () is, kind of, oddly, pretentious, it's packaging is both pretentious and very beautiful indeed.
I sometimes wonder whether "pretentious" is synonymous with "artistically ambitious".
― Lostandfound, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 06:22 (eighteen years ago)
Pavement, "Westing (By Musket and Sextant)"
That long Fiona Apple poem title ("When the Pawn...") is pretentious in the eyes of many. Me, I think it's neat.
― mactin, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 06:24 (eighteen years ago)
Although I do always find the defence "b-b-but it was s'posed to be a joke" hilariously lame in the face of such accusations. I mean, have the huevos to embrace the pretentiousness (or lack of, whatever) of your music or the music you champion!
― Lostandfound, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 06:25 (eighteen years ago)
And might not "artistically ambitious" also encompass "overreaching"? I mean, this shit ain't simple.
― Lostandfound, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 06:26 (eighteen years ago)
Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Die, Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Live Forever
― stephen, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 07:22 (eighteen years ago)
People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Prince_%28artist%29.svg
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)
13 Tales from Urban Bohemia
― Lolpez, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)
what's pretentious about druqks? am i missing something?
― later arpeggiator, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)
Bolton Swings Sinatra
― deusner, Thursday, 22 November 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)
that's "Mr." Fuckface to you, chaki...
― henry s, Thursday, 22 November 2007 02:42 (eighteen years ago)
You know, a "fuckface" is kind of a weird thing to call someone as an insult. YOU ARE A CONTORTED EXPRESSION OF EXTREME PLEASURE! It just doesn't quite work.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 22 November 2007 03:13 (eighteen years ago)
yup -- terrence trent d'arby wins this contest hands down. he's the closest thing to a black axl rose as yer gonna get.
― Eisbaer, Thursday, 22 November 2007 04:30 (eighteen years ago)
it's pretty easy to look up words.
"pretentious: trying to appear or sound more important or clever than you are, especially in matters of art and literature."
'the shape of jazz to come' isn't pretentious, it's accurate. and as a title it's humbler than it sounds.
'in the aeroplane over the sea' isn't pretentious, it refers to a song on the album titled 'in the aaeroplane over the sea' with that line in it describing an aeroplane over the sea. it's not claiming anything and it has a nice roll to it; how that is trying to appear or sound more important or clever than it really is = beyond me.
() is pretentious because a pair of parentheses with nothing in them is trying to appear or sound more important or clever than it really is.
it's fun and easy to apply definitions to things!
― strgn, Thursday, 22 November 2007 08:05 (eighteen years ago)
peter murphy, deep -- pretentious if meant to convey mr. murphy's opinion as to the quality of that record's songs (not to mention the prior pretentiousness from mr. murphy's bauhaus [itself a pretty pretentious bandname] days, then there's naming yer post-bauhaus band "dali's car"). interestingly enough, the music on deep was probably murphy's most accessible and pop-oriented.
― Eisbaer, Thursday, 22 November 2007 08:36 (eighteen years ago)
No mention of "This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours" yet? Although, surely, there are songtitles by the Manics that are even way more pretentious than that one.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 22 November 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)
'He Has Left Us Alone But Shafts of Light Sometimes Grace the Corners of Our Rooms' - A Silver Mount Zion
― onimo, Thursday, 22 November 2007 10:03 (eighteen years ago)
No mention of "A Whole New Thing" by Sly & The Family Stone.
Giving your debut album such a title speaks of extreme confidence.....
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:10 (eighteen years ago)
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― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:18 (eighteen years ago)
.. Vol 1.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:36 (eighteen years ago)
Supergrass by Supergrass.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 14:51 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, but if it's true (and it was for Sly), it ain't braggin'. Ditto Ornette's The Shape Of Jazz To Come, Cecil Taylor's Jazz Advance, etc.
― Sara Sara Sara, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:20 (eighteen years ago)
Those titles were decided by the record companies, though, not the artists.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:20 (eighteen years ago)
There's a great 2-in-1 CD reissue of Jazz Advance and Coltrane Time which is credited to Cecil and goes under the name of Hard Drivin' Jazz complete with cover shot of car. Boy are the Les McCann fans in for a shock.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:23 (eighteen years ago)
Although I do always find the defence "b-b-but it was s'posed to be a joke" hilariously lame... Sometimes dude, they're right.
I'll cast a vote for We Are the Architects of Desire, though it's probably not my final answer.
― RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 16:03 (eighteen years ago)
thread should've ended here
― rockapads, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:22 (eighteen years ago)
I was hoping that would link to the first post but close enough.
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)
I like China Crisis
― burt_stanton, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 18:39 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, but if it's true (and it was for Sly), it ain't braggin'. }
I do, indeed, agree, that Sly Stone's mixture of soul, funk, hippie music and English psychedelia was actually a whole new thing. But it's still pretentious.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:13 (eighteen years ago)
the siegbran/mark s/tom exchanges up above are magnificent
― gff, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:26 (eighteen years ago)
I don't think you actually know what "pretentious" means, Geir. It's not a synonym for "arrogant" or "presumptuous".
http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/pretentious
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:32 (eighteen years ago)
Sydney band Madroom had an album called (deep breath)
"I'm for an art that is political-erotical-mystical, that does something other than sit on its ass in a museum. I am for an art that grows up not knowing it is art at all, an art given the chance of having a staring point of zero.I am for an art that embroils itself with the everyday crap & still comes out on top. I am for an art that imitates the human, that is comic, if necessary, or violent, or whatever is necessary. I am for an art that takes its form from the lines of life itself, that twists and extends and accumulates and spits and drips, and is heavy and coarse and blunt and sweet and stupid as life itself".
The quote is from sculptor Claes Oldenburg, apparently. It was a great album in a Birthday Partyish vein, hmmm, what happened to it?
― moley, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 21:50 (eighteen years ago)
Actually, according to your own reference Arrogant doesn't show up under synonyms for pretentious, but if you keep reading, pretentious does show up under synonyms for Arrogant. As for "presumptuous", one of the first synonyms is "assuming", so, y'know... it does mean those things. I don't care for squabbles over definitions, but when it's cut and dry like this...
― RabiesAngentleman, Thursday, 17 January 2008 10:05 (eighteen years ago)
OK, in short (ref: Sly album)
If the album title is true, then it is not pretentious.
I thank you.
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 January 2008 10:08 (eighteen years ago)
B-b-b-but... All those self-titled album titles are objectively true, and nobody can deny that. :)
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 17 January 2008 10:57 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.phonono.com/pix/sigur-ros-svigar-lg.jpg
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 17 January 2008 10:58 (eighteen years ago)
http://image.listen.com/img/170x170/4/2/3/2/402324_170x170.jpg
(Those two)
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 17 January 2008 10:59 (eighteen years ago)
xpost: Right, so Self Titled albums are not pretentious album titles.
That does not stop them from being pretentious band/artist names, however.
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 January 2008 11:16 (eighteen years ago)
It's a pity the Madroom album wasn't actually called (deep breath).
― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 17 January 2008 13:07 (eighteen years ago)
It's not pretentious, but Vintage Cocker does make me giggle.
― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 17 January 2008 13:17 (eighteen years ago)
The parenthesised song subtitles on Hail To the Thief have always sturck me as pretentious, and irritated me to the point where I've deleted the subtitles from the songs' iTunes files.
― chap, Thursday, 17 January 2008 15:37 (eighteen years ago)
Radiohead have just committed suicide in sympathy with your heartfelt protest.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:11 (eighteen years ago)
in addition, their collective assets have been transferred to your bank account.
― blunt, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:25 (eighteen years ago)
Hooray.
― chap, Thursday, 17 January 2008 16:27 (eighteen years ago)