Nomeansno : C/D/S/D

It took me 13 years between being introduced to them via Live and Cuddly to finally being in the right city at the right time to see them live in 2006. Really really glad I did.

Kind of expected but I'm still saddened by this. RIP one of the best bass tones ever.

Yeah very glad I saw them back in 2005, IIRC, up in Vancouver. (I'm sure a show on Vancouver Island would have been even more appropriate but I'll take that regardless -- seeing them in front of a hometown crowd as such was a hell of a thing.)

05 was probably the same tour I saw... Just destroyed the club, unreal

I was late to them due a general Alternative Tentacles allergy, I knew a bunch of people who were into them and heard the records here & there but it didn't really click for me until the early '00s, but man what a great band.

I saw that on their message board a few months ago it was mentioned they get offers all the time from festivals to play this or that record all the way through but they don't have any interest in doing that.

Good on them. Although I have to admit I'd go see the shit out of them playing Wrong all the way through.

^^I don't peg them as reunion tour types but I'd love that. Saw them on the Ausfahrt tour, what a blast.

They toured Europe all the time and they went out of their way to come to Ireland so many times; I only saw them on three occasions (2000, 2008? and 2013) but each was a great show. (And I'm not even counting the Hanson Brothers shows that I've never seen.)

And next on the Brexit playlist is 'Theresa, Give Me that Knife' off the 2004 Nomeansno album 'The People's Choice'

I saw them one sweltering summer night in 1990, in a humid, sticky basement called the Speedboat Gallery in St. Paul. It was glorious.

Wrong is def my favorite by far (2004 remaster is on Bandcamp), but enjoyed getting reacquainted with most of their catalog. Wouldn't have minded seeing them again, but it would have seemed weird to see them headline Riot Fest or something, as they seemed made for tight, claustrophobic venues.

The CD version of Why Do They Call Me Mr Happy? is in my top five albums of all time. I like Wrong as well but I just feel that WDTCMMH? is for the ages.

I feel that way about the CD version of Worldhood

Wrong is 30 years old in 2019. Still sounds as fresh to me as the day it came out.

I remember Peel playing all of the first side on his show once

I've said this before but Wrong sounds so sharp and ahead of its time compared to basically anything else from the time thanks to its super dry, tight production

the main actual issue I have with spotify is that nomeansno aren't on it (despite apparently being on tidal and apple music?)

this was the greatest punk band of all time

hell yeah

"disappear" my jam right now
Qui tickle the same spot for me, somehow

the quadruple-time bit of "my politics" >>>>>

Played the 0+2=1 cd in the car today! Not their best overall but a sentimental favorite as it was the first album of theirs I bought

I think I only own 0+2=1 on LP and [/i]Dance...[/i] on CD, as well as the sealed Live and Cuddly I thrifted a few months back. their stuff is hard to find even in Canada!

lol tags oh well

anyway reissue campaign when

the band have been posting telling people not to buy their stuff from Bandcamp or Discogs because notorious shitheads Southern records are the ones selling it. Alternative Tentacles is supposed to be reissuing it all, but Southern are in possession of the masters, so not sure when that's going to happen

:(

it's too bad the only thing most people can hear is The People's Choice - it's a great comp but it barely scratches the surface

i should really get more nomeansno, all i have is 'you kill me' and 'the day everything became nothing'

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I can imagine bandcamp being a no-go in that case but surely buying through discogs should not be a problem?

Wrong still sounds so f*cking tight

oh, I've been Stanning for it in this thread already :-)

I didn’t know Southern were/are bad news? What’s the story there?

working on a ranking of the NMN albums just for fun. tbh I've never been that wild about the early two-piece material but I'm happy to give it all another shot

i find mama hard going still, maybe one day it'll click

maybe one of the few discographies i find impossible to rank a la fugazi

"Humans" -> "Lost" one of the alltime great asskicking stretches of any rock record afaic

I'm teaching myself 'It's Catching Up' so I can do a lockdown cover version with some buddies, it's such fun to play.

"slowly melting" is an amazing song i hope to hear with not-shitty production/mixing one day

New to me: Generic Shame, aka three outtakes from One. the Miles Davis and Ramones covers are fun, but I think I'd have preferred these songs in there instead.

also this might be heretical but I'm glad the Hanson Brothers records exist as a non-NMN outlet for their Ramones worship shtick, which I find incredibly boring

Ok, so I haven't listened to the Hanson Brothers since Gross Misconduct came out. I can't remember the last time I even thought about them until you posted that. But I'm listening to that record now and realized that I sometimes get Night Without You stuck in my head as an actual Ramones song whose place in their catalog I could never quite remember.

I didn’t know Southern were/are bad news? What’s the story there?

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well as far as I know, they are basically a UK SST - not paying royalties, hoarding master tapes, not keeping things in print but blocking other labels from reissuing things, or demanding exorbitant licensing fees that make reissues impossible.

well as far as I know, they are basically a UK SST

Does that apply to SRD as well? They carry (or carried) loads of reputable labels for the UK and Ireland market.

I like Wrong, One, The Worldhood of the World as Such, and Dance of the Headless Bourgeosie a lot.

which other ones would i like if i like those?

the 85-88 material (which exists in several confusing formats) is largely killer if slightly cruder than what came later, and Why Do They Call Me Mr Happy? (which falls in the middle of the span you just listed) is pretty damn great. Their last LP All Roads Lead to Ausfahrt is more straightforward than usual but still contains maybe a half-dozen killer jams.

^ cosign

The 1988 EP/mini albums would be a good place to go - The Day Everything Became Nothing and Small Parts Isolated And Destroyed, which were released on one CD called The Day Everything Became Isolated And Destroyed.

re Southern distribution, can't say I know anything about it - I have just seen a lot of griping over recent years from old punk bands/labels/fans about Southern's business practices, I think it mostly started since John Loder died.

This is probably beyond the scope of a Nomeansno thread but what is the deal with possessing the masters - do Southern (or SST for that matter) have contractual/legal (on paper) ownership of the tapes and thus the right to refuse to license it or does having physical possession of someone's masters just automatically afford you that right? I guess what I'm asking is if an artist stole their masters back would they be in trouble? Heh.

I'd be down to mount a rescue operation

Didn't The Replacements do that once? One of them distracted the receptionist while another scooted off into the back to liberate the tapes. Might have been someone else tbf.

well, the geniuses got drunk and went in to steal their masters to throw them in the river but ended up just grabbing some safety duplicate masters and some tapes that were other bands not theirs

https://medium.com/cuepoint/the-replacements-decadent-food-fight-and-ridiculous-record-heist-of-1987-210434506391

Call it a reconnaissance mission I guess.

At least with the SST situation, a few bands that had had the wherewithal to lawyer up got their masters back in the late ’90s: Sonic Youth and the the Meat Puppets were the biggies, and there have been a few others over the years. Dinosaur Jr got their stuff back; Soundgarden’s SST debut was remixed and remastered on Sub Pop a couple of years ago. But I don’t know if anyone knows the state of masters that remain in GG’s possession, especially since he moved the label to Texas. Alternative Tentacles used vinyl to master their reissue of the Dicks’ Kill from the Heart, which was deleted really early by SST and the masters were gone. Loads of artists have claimed rights reverted, so you will find some random things on streaming now like Scott Colby’s Slide of Hand that are nearly all vinyl rips. And even some of SST’s CD releases were mastered from vinyl rather than the original tapes (I’m pretty sure Jack Brewer has claimed this was the case for Paganicons).