junior senior: why should i care about bad late 90s spybeat monobrow house with wanky indie vocals?

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i was misinformed!

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 20:30 (twenty-three years ago)

two possible outcomes 8 months from now:

this ends up in my top 10

this ends up in my bottom 10

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 20:31 (twenty-three years ago)

jess jess jess h-h-ha-ha-hates fun fun fun f-fun f-fun...

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)

i was misinformed that the album was just 12 versions of 'Move Your Feet' but no not really

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:05 (twenty-three years ago)

i think i must hate fun

It Doesn't Feel Like A Junior Senior World Anymore < /overwroughtportent>

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:07 (twenty-three years ago)

"What I'd like, is I'd like to hug and kiss you."

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:09 (twenty-three years ago)

they're okay, I'd give that song a 6 in the focus group, coz you know it'll be in the next one.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:10 (twenty-three years ago)

haha, the suggestion of Anthony Kiedis similarity in the voice is actually quite spot on...i never had a particular problem with Kiedis' voice (only the lyrics) so this does not bother me

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't understand it, it's like disco influenced house which had bypassed the whole french thing and decided the red hot chilli peppers are better than daft punk, hence kind of annoying. I mean it's sub Space Cowboy, sub Bangalter/Falcon, I can't get into it as much as I try, I think it's also the tempo, it's very lumpen and plodding to me (move your feet is all I've heard admittedly) and I'd rather dance to something that sounds as though it's meant for dancing to.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:13 (twenty-three years ago)

(I mean I don't have a terribly strict definition of that either, before anyone thinks it has to be even dance music or whatever)

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

speaking of years best etc, does anyone know if there's any great white hope for house this year, in terms of albums?

Besides Vitalic, who are barely house really.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:21 (twenty-three years ago)

luomo!

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

i think Ireland have imposed sanctions on kompakt, I've not seen any of the stuff anywhere.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:23 (twenty-three years ago)

they're hard to find anywhere, really. i mean, outside of germany and new york, obviously.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:24 (twenty-three years ago)

(however, it should be pointed out i bought my copy of the first luomo record in a barnes and noble, so it shouldn't be that hard to find this time around.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 21:25 (twenty-three years ago)

sub Space Cowboy, sub Bangalter/Falcon

its got nothing to do with them tho, why compare?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

i think they have more in common with The Avalanches

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

maybe if the avalanches played instruments and listened to "wham rap!" often

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:16 (twenty-three years ago)

well they do

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:17 (twenty-three years ago)

perhaps, but you can't hear it on the record

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:18 (twenty-three years ago)

true, i meant more the 'wackiness' of the two acts, its fun and its cleverly done - reasonably

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Luomo is distributed by EFA which is one of the larger distribution companies in Germany. They have an agreement with Caroline, which effectively makes their releases major label.

You can order direct from Kompakt. http://www.kompakt-net.de/
I disagree strongly with the idea that Kompakt records are hard to find, their output has consistently been available in good shops in Detroit and Chicago since 1999. Granted, they might be harder to come by in Memphis Tenn.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 02:42 (twenty-three years ago)

house and techno records readily available in detroit and chicago shocker!!

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 02:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan they're a rock band! (cute backup singers, "the blues" (sort of), "instruments") Sort of like house though in that there's no verses really, just big breakdowns and 5 gazillion choruses

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:49 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, it isn't house at all! more like a bar band covering mash-ups of all the iconic parts from various new wave classix

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 08:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I still don't see how the guy sounds like the guy from red hot chili peppers! I guess I have only heard like 2 rhcp songs in the last 5-6 years though.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 08:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Junior Senior are more comparable to White Stripes than to 'Ouse - certainly prefer the album to Elephant. CoM review two weeks overdue 'cos of not feeling happy enough to write it, but we'll see...

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:18 (twenty-three years ago)

ah no wonder I hate it so. I filed it with records which are introduced with "fatboy slim played this 14 years ago and the crowd went wild".

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:41 (twenty-three years ago)

hence my house description also, I'm pretty sure Fatboy Slim did actually play it too sometime I saw him.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:44 (twenty-three years ago)

There is no way that Junior Senior is comparable to Elephant. One eerie comparison is this, however, notice how Jack White looks exactly like Michael Jackson on the cover of the album Elephant?

Yikes.

Back to Junior Senior.

Samson, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:45 (twenty-three years ago)

maybe if the avalanches played instruments and listened to "wham rap!" often

Jess you have nailed why JS are better than the Avalanches.

I think they're like a good Primal Scream (as opposed to good Primal Scream which they sound 0 like).

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Sheesh.

Samson, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:56 (twenty-three years ago)

right I'm definitely not getting it now, thanks Tom ; )

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Junior Senior is a load of ironic crap! It is barely listenable. Enjoy the concept but not the music.

Samson, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:59 (twenty-three years ago)

It is terrible! It is awful! But ... erm ... their guitarist is really attractive!

kate, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:01 (twenty-three years ago)

HA! fastest ILX hype/backlash cycle EVER.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm keeping the faith Dan :(

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:11 (twenty-three years ago)

For the first time ever on ILM, I think I can safely say: Tom, it's you and me against the world here :-(

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:15 (twenty-three years ago)

and graham linehan. he said he loved it in "Word" - which is the deal maker for me. HMV, here I come...

Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:17 (twenty-three years ago)

junior senior suxx u r all red hot chilli peppers

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan it's like "What if the last chemical brothers album wasn't made by lazy old men?"

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Junior Senior are destined to become beloved by English critics and lovers of ironic pop - ignored by the rest of the world as it is, and I am very sorry, BLOODY AWFUL! : - D

I could not make it through the first song. I played it for my girl who loves French POP Music and Pop (Modjo and the likes). She said 'This is rubbish. Oh god, please take it off. Please. It sounds like Ace of Base as played by the backing band of Pop Idols but only alternative.'

Samson, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Samson try Track 9 instead!

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:23 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think there's anything 'ironic' about them - don't think that term's meaningful here. Jess' original criticisms are nearer the mark.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I had to write something about it, Tom. I have listened to the album. Twice. So painful. : - (

Samson, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't know Daft Punk made the last chemical brothers album!


I'll continue my search for the bangalter/falcon steve winwood sampling monster.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:29 (twenty-three years ago)

the single is nice, i didnt realise they were european at first. i downloaded the album but havent played it yet

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I really like it; asked by one of the Stylus writers I said I thought it was to indie-pop (alt-pop? - B-52s keep getting mentioned, and though I don't know them at all well I definitely see JS as being closer to them rather than The Smiths or Bis or crunchy guitar indiepop - JS are indie/altpop) what N*E*R*D are to hip hop, crossing over into dance where N*E*R*D cross into rock. They definitely ain't dance or pop or indie (and def. def. DEF. not house!), but rather some weird po-mo. construct (compromise?) of all these things. It's incredibly camp and incredibly up-beat and silly, but great nonetheless, for what it is (but NOT GREAT for dance/house/indie). i guess in these odd times we just have to label it 'pop' and move on - that's the rack it's in in HMV.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah the 'house' stuff baffles me - I mean I think I understand all the "house has got too broad/default" comments on that house thread if people think JS is it.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:52 (twenty-three years ago)

all the comparisons to JS on this thread are totally off the money! including my Avalanches one...is this the true pluspoint of Junior Senior?

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:05 (twenty-three years ago)

the dfa remix of coconuts never really did it for me, i didn't like how it kept avoiding the chorus, i guess that was the point but it felt like it never really broke out of the gate

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

is their "twist & shout"/"push it" medley available anywhere? managed to see/hear it thanks to xfm, but not in an easily uh stealable/distributable form.

etc, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I just wish these albums that sound great for 2 or 3 spins and then gather dust didn't cost $15. I need to get a broadband connection!

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread has made me remember to hate Junior Senior more.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

it's done the complete opposite from me, as usual

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

FOR me, pardon

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Matos OTM. Just put "Shake Your Coconuts" on a mixtape today and side 1 has aged just loverly for me.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...
you know i just picked the junior senior album up for a mere 3 quid and its a lot better than the one hit wonder tag would have you believe. in fact i really grew to hate the big hit .. but spread amongst the rest of the album i can quite easily see this album being spun a lot over next few weeks.

and with the Go! Team reviving the ultra nasty lo-fi production techniques,could it be that the junior senior album has suddenly been given a new lease of life ?

mark e (mark e), Friday, 7 January 2005 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Hah i just picked it up for 95p.

it's really fun. The sun is out and i'm tired from a nights dancing. This is great!

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 12 March 2005 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I listened to this again a few weeks ago and enjoyed it a little less than when it first came out, but it's still fun. A ton of it seemed like an homage to the late 70s obsesssion with the 50s--John Lennon's Rock n Roll, Stray Cats, Happy Days.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 12 March 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0009A494E.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Is the new album going to get a UK/US release by the end of 2005? I know Japan and Denmark have it already. And it is so very wonderful, all heartwhirling sunshine crescendos and rather a lot better than the last one (which was still great). End-of-year top 5 EASILY (if I decide to do an end of year top 5)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Senior's not looking so um senior anymore!

Awesome cover. I'm lookign forward to this immensely.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 25 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

it is very very good. i strongly prefer it to the first album.

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 25 September 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

i like it too! i do think it's a bit uh much. but i guess that's the point.

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

they clearly come from a universe where wham! and the velvet underground have traded places

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

ANDREW RIDGELEY'S DEAD?!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 September 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

White on white translucent tank tops
Back on the rack
Andrew Ridgeley's dead

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 25 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

i consider it junior senior's patriotic duty to give me a "waiting for teh man"/"wake me up before u go go" mash up

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

how can you hate on the late 90s in 2003 only to champion the early 00s craze for horrible bootlegs 2 years later!

minna (minna), Sunday, 25 September 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

...

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

"how can you not hold the same opinions you did when you were a stoned 18 year old?"

"why do you not feel the same way you did during your first marriage?"

"i can't belive you don't feel exactly as you did pre-grade school."

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

the evolution of my thoughts on junior senior blooms right before our eyes on this very thread

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

haha we're still all here on ilm

minna (minna), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

haha

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

full circle!

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

actuallly no, i guess full circle would be me hating them again

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

hakuna matata

minna (minna), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

oh wait xpost youre too damn fast jess!

minna (minna), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

its true its only half circle tho because im more resistent to the twee dated charms of this 2nd album whereas i loved the first one

minna (minna), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

i've had a lot of coffee this moring

xpost: i have only listened to the album a few times. i think my officemates are annoyed by it.

strng hlkngtn (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

i like the song that sounds like 'shiny happy people' but the one about 'we are the handclaps'.... .... .. .i dont know

minna (minna), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

haha my eyes are on stalks late late at nite, whoah its like were on seperate hemispheres or something

minna (minna), Sunday, 25 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
apparently there's a jnr sr remix of beck's "girl" out there somewhere. i'd like to hear it. anybody got it, or able to confirm its existence?

jermainetwo, Sunday, 29 April 2007 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

The second album has only just been released in Australia. Still need to get it.

Tim F, Sunday, 29 April 2007 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

Karen O's got a real great EP in her

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 29 April 2007 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

NEW EP: PURE RAT ATTACK
12" SINGLE: POTASSIUM RAT JUICE
B/W: REMIX: POSSUM HATE
SPLIT SINGLE W/RAPTURE: I'M THE RATPURE, HE'S THE DJ
SPLIT SINGLE W/JUNIOR SENIOR: WE ROX, ONE OF THEM IS GAY

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 29 April 2007 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

this is another point of agreement between me and jess then, i hate the junior boys (nb only heard the irritant which is 'move your feet') (unless he changed his mind in the 223 posts i didn't read)

lex pretend, Sunday, 29 April 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Junior Senior != Junior Boys

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 29 April 2007 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

yes i know! gah. i hate junior senior, i love junior boys.

lex pretend, Sunday, 29 April 2007 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

any thoughts on new 7 song ep, "say hello wave goodbye"? judging from the samples at http://www.klicktrack.com/shop/release.jsp?r=41030&tn=2, all the songs sound like 'take on me'. sort of.

jermainetwo, Monday, 20 August 2007 02:28 (eighteen years ago)

Their two-year-old album is finally getting a release here in the States this week. Why'd it take so long?

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 20 August 2007 02:33 (eighteen years ago)

it took that long to put it out here.

s1ocki, Monday, 20 August 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

In other news, the video for Move Your Feet has singlehandedly cured my hangover.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 20 August 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

new jr sr sounds like apples in stereo

and what, Monday, 20 August 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

http://www.myspace.com/jeppe

"Senior" did a cover of "Johnny Come Home" by FYC and, um...it sounds like "Senior" doing a cover of "Johnny Come Home."

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder how it would sound if Junior did it instead.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

SING SING SING MY SONG
SING SING SING ALONG
LOL 2003
AAHHHHH YEAH

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

Any of y'all ever heard the band they were in together in the '90s, Ludo X? Listening to the sole album that was released just now, it's clear where they were headed. It's also clear it was going to take them a few more years to get there.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 August 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

favorite thing right now:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5932757/junior_senior_move_your_feet_hd_recreation/

skip, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:08 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, that guy did a lot of work!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:11 (fourteen years ago)


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