LOUDNESS!!! Jesus, wow.

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Man, there's very little in the world that tops a Metal Mania weekend on VH1 Classic, but so far in my almost constant watching in the last 3 days, I think the crowning gem has been the "Crazy Nights" video by the Japanese hairmetal allstars Loudness. What ever bacame of the Thunder from the East known as Loudness, anyhow? Are they back on the club circuit, I hope and pray?

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 30 March 2003 20:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I roved Roudness.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Sunday, 30 March 2003 20:25 (twenty-three years ago)

i saw loudness open for motley crue on the theater of pain tour. i can't seem to remember whether they sucked.

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 30 March 2003 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Holy fucktarded Shitballs! I just did a little internet research. Apparently Loudness has put out like 19 albums, the last was in 1999. Man, they've got to still be around. I am in awe.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 30 March 2003 20:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw Woudness open for Iron Maiden once. They inspired by giggling than headbaning.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 30 March 2003 21:20 (twenty-three years ago)

What about EZO as well?

Bryan (Bryan), Sunday, 30 March 2003 21:26 (twenty-three years ago)

YOU ARE THE HERO TONIGHT!

original bgm, Monday, 31 March 2003 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)

"frashback! haltattack!" ezo ruled.

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Dude you guys are so totally right. Making fun of asian accents never went out of vogue. Those gooks say the funniest things.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:44 (twenty-three years ago)

for once I agree with Sterling. making fun of Asian accents IS hilarious! < /sarcasm>

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 31 March 2003 06:48 (twenty-three years ago)

okay, right. clearly the fact that japanese people speak english with an accent due to their language not having no distinct 'l' and 'r' sounds should never, ever be mentioned ever again.

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 31 March 2003 07:03 (twenty-three years ago)

minus "not"!

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 31 March 2003 07:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Speaking in "whiteboy" = totally PC and funny.
Speaking in "fake asian" = crime against humanity.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 31 March 2003 12:26 (twenty-three years ago)

okay, right. clearly the fact that japanese people speak english with an accent due to their language not having no distinct 'l' and 'r' sounds should never, ever be mentioned ever again.

No, it wasn't "mentioned" -- this peculiarity of palate & language development was help up as something to be mocked. It's not PC to observe that making fun of the way people talk is rude. (PC is a boogeyman made entirely of straw, but that's another question.) Speaking in "whiteboy" is rather different because if it's done here it's done by white people, and this isn't in any way unusual: if I criticize myself openly, then I can, if I like, invite others to enjoy laughing at my shortcomings. If, on the other hand, other people just make fun of me behind my back, I feel small.)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 31 March 2003 12:55 (twenty-three years ago)

"held up," I mean.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 31 March 2003 12:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, John, (in regards to the "whiteboy" speak) I meant like when Chris Rock or Chris Tucker or Dave Chappelle or Eddie Murphy do their "white guy" voices. Apparently there's nothing wrong in most people's minds (including mine) with black people having a little fun with the vocal idiosyncracies they spot in other ethnicities, but when white people do the same, it's a big no-no apparently...at least according to these Rules That Have Been Imposed Upon Society (which I'm trying my damndest to ignore in my appreciation-of-life).

Yeah, so saying "I roved Roudness" is totally evil, I am white devil (even though I'm actually mostly Lebanese, whatevah). Now, let's go persecute Chris Rock.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:04 (twenty-three years ago)

so the ezo song "flashback heartattack" doesn't sound like "frashback haltattack" and clearly i'm some kind of major league ugly american asshole for thinking it did. sorry about that, japanese people!

as reparation, i invite any asians who see this thread to mock my inability to properly digest monosodium glutamate or memorize the 2000 standard japanese kanji.

No, it wasn't "mentioned" -- this peculiarity of palate & language development was help up as something to be mocked.

were you actually shaking your finger at the monitor when you wrote this?

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, so saying "I roved Roudness" is totally evil, I am white devil

Yeah, I didn't really say that, and took care to make it clear that that wasn't what I was saying, since when people feel like they're being caricatured, they tend to ignore any valid criticism that might be present in the exchange. I think that the racial dynamics between black and white people in the U.S. are pretty complex, though, and that history really does inform the way people get along with one another -- that is, while "Slavery? Get over it, already!" is a popular stance, it's also a ridiculous one from an historical standpoint: what to speak of Jim Crow, segregation, public policy post-desegregation etc. etc. etc. So there's a depth to it when people who've been getting screwed over for several hundred years make light of the people who've been doing the screwing. (That doesn't mean I accept the proposition that American black people can't be racist "because racism is about power," which was a claim that got tossed around a lot when I was in college; I don't.) But American (or for that matter English) people making fun of the Japanese is a qualitatively different thing from American black people making fun of American white people. The power dynamic makes the former case sound profoundly icky. "We bombed you worse than anybody's ever been bombed in the whole history of the world...oh, and you talk funny, too!" Eww.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:33 (twenty-three years ago)

OK "profoundly" icky is an overstatement but I stand by my main point.

Null Fame am I right in presuming you'd rather just toss insults back and forth than have a discussion? Fine, whatever...ummm...you're ugly, or something.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Regardless of ethnicity, any assertion that the band in question was anything by completely ludicrous is an excercise in utter, abject futility.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:39 (twenty-three years ago)

anything BUT....jesus.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:39 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, john, absolutely correct.

The power dynamic makes the former case sound profoundly icky. "We bombed you worse than anybody's ever been bombed in the whole history of the world...oh, and you talk funny, too!" Eww.

tedious. should we discuss whether this is just the frame of mind you carry around in regards to this and that in saying what i said i was thinking nothing of the sort? or is it now my job to think about the political histories of the united states and whatever country a band happens to be from before i do something hateful and oppressive like phonetically type out their lyrics?

i also like lots of norwegian bands who mispronounce things - cf thorns "desperately seeking the inwisible." is this racist? can i say it? will it not be funny? please advise.

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Alex I'm quite sure I have no idea what you're talking about

http://www.autopartsoutlet.com/d1d/loudness/minoru01.jpg

YNF, you're not interested in having a discussion, you just wanna trade insults & that much is clear, so, like, yeah. Do whatcha like, nothing matters, you must be a nice person so clearly nothing you ever say could have any racist connotations because after all you meant well, etc.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I apologize for turning this thread about the greatness of Loudness down an improper route. I apologize to all who may have been offended by my above posts, and I promise never to make fun of...

A) Loudness
B) the idiosyncracies of any ethnicities speech patterns

...ever again. I'm currently being punished for my crime against humanity by subjecting myself to a handfull of Loudness mp3s on repeat. Again, all apologeez.

Now, let's get back to making lists and stuff.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

john, you're just trying to avoid discussion by saying i'm only interested in trading insults. i would love to have you point out the insult in the last thing i typed, because there isn't one.

if you did think i was trying to insult you, my apologies - i'll just say i disagree with you on this and leave it at that.

and EZO - i'm sorry if i offended you, you guys fucking ROCKED.

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 31 March 2003 13:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Man, all I wanted to do was talk about Loudness, this turned into a total fucking cry-fest. Everyone knows that ethnic jokes are the second best jokes ever, the first best jokes are when you're really drunk and just saying names for bodily functions over and over.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Monday, 31 March 2003 20:22 (twenty-three years ago)

well, you know, white people.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 02:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Poop!

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 02:06 (twenty-three years ago)

...the first best jokes are when you're really drunk and just saying names for bodily functions over and over.
naw, it goes like this
3rd: Ethnic Jokes
2nd: Drunkenly saying "Bodily Functions" over and over and over again (and I don't mean saying "shit", I literally mean saying "Bodily Functions!" over and over and over again...)
1st: Any joke that involves Jell-O, the Genitals of Jesus, rubber underwear, a sock monkey and an ambigious use of the phrase "mashed potatoes"

See: The Sacred + The Profane + stuffed animals + Starchy Tubers == Comedic Genius.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 02:14 (twenty-three years ago)

"Give me some gravy on my mashed potatoes!"

order some disorder, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 02:28 (twenty-three years ago)

by juber, I think he's got it.
Now just "stick in" that sock monkey and yer 90% of the way there!

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 02:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Back in the mid-80s, Hit Parader and the radio show Ma-Ma-Ma-Ma-Ma-Ma Metal Shop used to do features on Loudness all the time with the line that "Akira Takasaki (sp?) is the Eddie Van Halen of Japan".

Accessing long dormant brain cells, I seem to recall that they added an American lead singer at one point, but by then the SST advertisements in same Hit Paraders had taken me a different path.

Rock and roll crazy nights!

earlnash, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, I've always wanted to know how the whole Japanese metal scene (not as much hardrock a la Loudness) is doing over there...only Sabbat, Sigh and Abigail (and all their sideprojects) have come to my attention over the last decade (basically, because they had European tours and label support), but how correct am I in thinking that these bands completely obscure/marginal bands for the Japanese audience and that totally different bands are popular there?

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 12:46 (twenty-three years ago)

all i can say to that is look for the "black eyes aggression" compilation - i have no idea how many of the bands on it are popular in any way, but obscure japanese black/death metal is a Good Thing. especially dig on crifotoure satanarda's tune with the marching band horns in the middle.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 22:01 (twenty-three years ago)

nineteen years pass...

Ugh old ilx could be so awful.

I had a new song by Loudness come up on Spotify shuffle last night and didn't really know a lot about them, beyond being a long-running Japanese metal band. Searched to see if there was an ilm thread about them and now I'm just sad.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 August 2022 15:40 (three years ago)

Anyway, the song was "大和魂" and it kinda ruled.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 August 2022 15:42 (three years ago)

My brother saw them at a festival the other week, apparently they use way too many backing tracks for their own good BUT Akira Takasaki is a genuine whizz on the old axe.

terry and june as hauntological relic (Matt #2), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:20 (three years ago)


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