Early Fall - help me make a definitive C90

Music Scene (from Live at the Witch Trials). Print Head, Dice Man, Before The Moon Falls and Your Heart Out (from Dragnet). New Face in Hell (Peel Version). Various Times (Early Years). Just Step Sideways,Hip Priest and Jawbone and The Air Rifle (from Hex...). Solicitor in Studio (Room to Live).

Oh, and The Man Whose Head Expanded ("sounds like hick waap, over, over-ah")

And then put on Repetition ("Repetition in our music and were never gonna gonna loose it").

Oh and Its the New Thing...

What's that live album that has the 10 minute track Black Dog? Put that on even if its past your date period.

ps Oh and can we do a Yeah Yeah Noh C90 as well?

ps2 During the Stranglers thread I nearly stated that the Stranglers influenced the Fall but kinda thought that claim would have overshadowed somewhat my other points.

ps3 The Stranglers influenced 'science friction' period XTC as well

ps4 and Magazine

ps5 and Squeeze circa take me Im yours

ps6 and no, Im not just mentioning a bunch of bands with keyboards in then

Ab-SURD not to have "Spectre vs Rector"... PLUS: "Frightened" (begin yr tape with this); Rebellious Jukebox; THE WHOLE OF SIDE ONE OF DRAGNET IN ORDER; Flat of Angles; Chock-Stock; City Hobgoblins; The NWRA; WMC-Blob59; THE WHOLE OF SLATES IN ORDER...

"He is a scum-egg — a horrible trendy wretch"

Best Fall cut ever: "The Classical" (on Hex) = closest they've ever come to genuine circus funk (closest they'd come to funk at all, for that matter).

Best cut on Witch Trials = "Various Times" (doomy in a Dylany way, and the last and maybe only track of theirs where I can comprehend the words)

Best version of "John Quays" = on Totale's Turn

I'm sorry, but I can't believe that for a moment. In my mind, along with Hex Enduction Hour, it is *the* Fall album. In my admittedly fairly limited experience, Grotesque is the only Fall album where I think every track is essential.

Only 20 tracks. But I decided RW was right and 'The N.W.R.A' had to be on there, 9 minutes or not. Which makes five tracks from 'Grotesque', something I make no apologies for. On listening to it again, it's even better than I remembered and I can confirm that you are indeed on crack, Dr C.

Psycho Mafia
Frightened
Rebellious Jukebox
Flat of Angles
Fiery Jack
How I Wrote 'Elastic Man'
Totally Wired
English Scheme
New Face in Hell
C'n'C-s Mithering
The Container Drivers
Middle Mass
Slates, Slags etc.
Leave The Capitol
Lie Dream of A Casino Soul
The Classical
Jawbone And The Air Rifle
I'm Into CB!
Room to Live
The N.W.R.A

Oh and Ned, I think this neatly illustrates the difference between me and you.

We could argue all day about the tracklisting (no "Diceman"? no "Flat of Angles?" No "Music Scene-ah?"), but I was going to ask you - didn't you buy the Psykick Dancehall 3-CD box a while back? Is it true that some of the tracks are live versions, not the studio versions?

Unfortunately I'm with Dr. C on Dragnet. An early Fall best-of without Printhead or Dice Man? My fave Totales track is "Cary Grant's Wedding", just a hilarious sounding song.

If Dr. C is still out there, I wish he'd post. I've been reading some of his other posts from a few years ago and already greatly admire him. Hope he hasn't totally disappeared.

Oh, he very much is still around, he just posted a few things today actually.

Have this but haven't heard it in years. I remember he has a pop at Warren Mitchell for being a class traitor in the middle of "Pay Your Rates". Think it's pretty good all round, from memory - ramshackle as fuck ah course.