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I searched to see if anyone else has done it, but I couldnt find it. Anyway, everyone here seems to hate them and I'd like to know why. I've only heard No Pocky For Kitty and it was a pretty good punky album. What say you?

David Allen, Saturday, 19 April 2003 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

CLASSIC!!!
Most of the albums are worth having. I think most hate them because of the dreaded 'Indie Principles'

Frank Smith, Saturday, 19 April 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

Or the voice

Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 19 April 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

CLASSIC

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 19 April 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

Mac's voice is turn off for me, but I still listen to them every now and then. The only real duds are the two latest albums and Foolish.

paul cox (paul cox), Saturday, 19 April 2003 17:14 (twenty years ago) link

I have every album but one and can't say that I dislike any of them. Obviously some are better than others, but I think they are a great band.

Mark M, Saturday, 19 April 2003 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. But I really think they're a singles band. The songwriting tends to sag really quickly on each album. But Tossing Seeds rocks and if the tracks they made videos for or released EPs of were compiled that disc would be great too. I like that Mac has focused on lyrics and vocal audibility more these days. Those demos for Come Pick Me Up on the single/EPs were sometimes better than the album versions and Here's To Shutting Up had some of their most moving work yet. Never count them out.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 19 April 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

Here's Where The Strings Come In is just a great rock record, indie or no. great drumming, great riffs, memorable tunes, wistful lyrics. i'm not nearly as warm on their earlier punkier stuff. Come Pick Me Up is great also, although i can mostly understand the beef with their recent stuff. i still think they've aged and softened up more appealingly than nearly all of their peers.

Al (sitcom), Saturday, 19 April 2003 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

ever count them out

My edit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 April 2003 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

Tossing Seeds rocks

And mine.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Sunday, 20 April 2003 03:37 (twenty years ago) link

Anthony OTM. "Cast Iron" still rocks my lame ass.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 20 April 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

Steve Forbert of indie rock

T. Weiss (Timmy), Sunday, 20 April 2003 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

I adore Superchunk. I can't help it. I'm still a big dork when it comes to them and going to their shows and harassing them until they play "Detroit Has A Skyline"--I've done it 8 times. Also once Jim gave me a hug.

For some reason I've never been able to get into Portastatic.

adam (adam), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:23 (twenty years ago) link

my undying love for superchunk is wholly inseperable from lame, misplaced nostalgia for being 16 (who the fuck actually WANTS to be 16?) and i think that's okay

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:29 (twenty years ago) link

who the fuck actually WANTS to be 16?

Put my current brain in my bemusingly sticklike 16-year-old body = I'm all for it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link

b-b-b-but paul you used to love Superchunk!

hstencil, Monday, 21 April 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

yeah ned cuz then you could perv on 16 yr old indie girls and it would be kosher!

*ducks*

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

And you wouldn't?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:43 (twenty years ago) link

:-O

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think they've ever made a classic album (in fact I think their most consistent record is the "Incidental Music" compilation) but at their best they often amaze. "Driveway to Driveway" can still break my heart at 50 paces.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 21 April 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

"Here's Where the Strings Come in" isn't a classic album?! That's borderline sacrilege.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 04:31 (twenty years ago) link

Bring the Portastatic luv for "Spying on the Spies" alone.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

b-b-b-but paul you used to love Superchunk!

Eh, you just caught me during some of the ebbs. There are just as many flows.

paul cox (paul cox), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 04:35 (twenty years ago) link

CLASSIC and big ditto to Anthony re: they're a singles band

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 04:45 (twenty years ago) link

haha superchunk song of choice is "100,000 fireflies"

*ducks*

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link

I think Jess' original post sums it up for me, except that i associate them with being 14 instead, but i am not saying this to assert how hip i was at that age, as, in hinsight, i would have rather known about and purchaced Jungle from that era back when the 12"s were affordable ;-)

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. The INCIDENTAL MUSIC observation is right-on, yeah, but they've got gems all over the place (well, except that first s/t CD that I never got into, which is pretty barren).

I never understood the "all the songs sound the same" thing - it was true-ish around the NO POCKY days, but they've gone way past that. Anyone who thinks that, say, "Late Century Dream", "Nu Bruises", and "Swallow That" (to name just three) sound the same either has nonfunctional ears or has given up on listening to music objectively. And "Art Class" off the new one is a freaking great single.

doug (doug), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

Foolish is terribly underrated I think

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

foolish is their best album by miles and miles (this may be tied to the 16-year-old thing.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:41 (twenty years ago) link

(haha i just remembered i learned to drive in the parking lot of the exton square mall listening to it!)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

Foolish is my fave as well, with "package Thief" being my favorite non-Foolish track.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

I'm pretty close to alone on this, I know, but I think _Come Pick Me Up_ is their best record--definitely the one that sounds the least like any of their others. I especially love "June Showers"--what a riff--!

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link

I wonder if you did a crosssection of Superchunk fans, would the ones who like Foolish best also be the ones who love the Cure most

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

also, it is their fleetwood mac breakup-concept album (a firm favorite with the overly romantic)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

I love Foolish but have no strong opinions about the Cure one way or the other, so there goes John's theory.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe the rule is:
Fans of Foolish are either fans of the Cure, or were 16 when it came out.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

Fans of Foolish evidently don't feel the urge to scream "MAC! THE MIC! SING INTO THE MIC! TURN UP THE MIC! LOUDER, YOU BASTARD! WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? TURN UP THE MIC! ENUNCIATE YOU FUCK!!!"

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

Superchunk was quite a good time live, but on record the softer their sound got, the less interest they held with me.

I like the Tossing Seeds compilation best of their records, but they have some other good songs.

Mac's voice is pretty flat, it doesn't have alot of dynamics, which is why I like their songs when the guitars have some roar. It probably would have helped if they did more doubling of the vocals, which they did on a few songs.

earlnash, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

Foolish is ok. i had high hopes when i finally got around to hearing it. Like A Fool, Why Do You Have To Put A Date On Everything? and Driveway To Driveway are great, but a lot of it i can take or leave.

whatever you think of their recent albums, they still rock the fuck out live.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

eso_jim: was 'driveway to driveway' the one on that speed kills 10"? i remember loving their song on that release...

i say classic, all kinds of classic. at one point, they defined indie, in a good way. they matured and made more good music, and their last few albums -- while not vital to anyone outside of their fans at this point -- may well be their best. and whenever i play SC's version of '100,000 fireflies', i sing along. loud. and it feels good.

besides, in some ways, they're as politically important as fugazi(stayed the indie course, blah blah blah), and merge is far better than dischord or many contemporaries. (teenbeat, et al.)

lastly: they were one of the first 'Super' bands. there have been hundreds of 'em since. and as much as i like, oh, supergrass and the like, i'm sick of super band names now.

So: haveing a 'SUPER' name: classic or dud?

bucky wunderlick (bucky), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

Super is a trick. Most bands are as cool as their name would be without the Super. Chunk would still be a cool name, the Furry Animals would not. Drag would be okay but kinda generic and Tramp would just blow. The Suckers would be badass if kinda obvious.

Woah, I just realized one of MY bands has the word Super in their name (the Powers sounds okay, I guess...). So I guess it's classic after all.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

superchunk were one of the tamest live bands i've ever seen; the crowd only got excited during the cover of "brand new love". i was crushed. (i was like 17.) maybe it was an off night, but...

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

No, that was probably par for the course. Superchunk rank up with YLT and RATM as the 'band who killed my potential interest in them stone dead with a crap live show' paragons.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

I think Jess's "overly romantic: likes Foolish" suggestion is probably closest to the truth for me

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

go fig. i'm really just in awe of their drummer, and a great drummer can easily distract me from a subpar band. the night i saw them, Mac had cut his finger while cooking or something, so they had an extra guitarist on hand but Mac still played a lot of solos and rocked out.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:09 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
"cool" is my favorite of theirs. What a song.

Unfortunately, it did not place on the 1990s poll that Gear is conducting. But don't worry, 1992gax!, I placed "slack mofo" quite high, in a compensatory move. Now, I will go listen to "Cool" for the third time in a row.

Reed Moore (diamond), Saturday, 18 September 2004 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I placed "slack mofo" quite high, in a compensatory move.

From an old Superchunk.com news update: "Superchunk's teen anthem of '89, "Slack MF" came in at #19 in Spin magazine's "Top 20 Singles of The Decade" poll."

As for the question at hand, dud. I mean really, that voice....

Vic Funk, Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I think my fave is Here's To Shutting Up but part of that is because the lyrics grab a scary amount of details from the long-distance period of my last relationship. Not just emotions but concrete nouns and place names. It's eerie. Plus musically it's relatively all over the map.

On The Mouth is probably my fave full-length of the era where each album had one specific sound the whole way through. I can't wait for another album, yet I never have the urge to buy any Portastatic. This is probably contradictory.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i haven't heard anything new by them since the "hello hawk" cd single. (i don't think i heard the parent album attached to that either.) (or maybe even the one before it.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

chuck eddy, is that you?

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

No probs, that just got posted today.

I like the song "Me and You and Jackie Mittoo" . I also just like saying that

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 September 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link

This new record is surprisingly excellent, I listened to/reviewed it for my radio station the other day.

money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 27 September 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

My pal Josh played "Me & You & Jackie Mittoo" the other night at Fenway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl165mXyy9M

hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

After not hearing it for a long long while, I think I love I hate music more than ever.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Monday, 29 May 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

man, i think Black Thread from their new album might be my favorite song they've ever done.

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

they are on a roll in my opinion

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 00:05 (five years ago) link

wurster kicks all types of ass on the latest record

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 00:12 (five years ago) link

Yes it's a fantastic record

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link

love the record. "Reagan Youth" doesn't fail to bring me up short.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Honestly never gave Superchunk much time, for no good reason, despite traveling in similar circles as listener and peer, I guess. But I told our little house robot to play Superchunk tonight and damned if every song so far hasn't been really good.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 September 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

Well, it’s all the same song (lol)

Scam Likely (morrisp), Friday, 25 September 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link

but it's a good song!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 September 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

Not fair, they got a lot more dynamic over time.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 September 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link

I haven't paid all that much attention post-Foolish but on those occasions when I revisit the early records I find myself enjoying them almost as much as I did as a kidlet. Though, yeah, some nostalgia may be involved; amusing that that's a major theme upthread!

I saw them once, paired with Buffalo Tom. Pretty good, IIRC!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 25 September 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

All the Songs Sound the Same Music (BMI)

also fuck you all they are the best band ever

mookieproof, Friday, 25 September 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link

is the title of "My Gap Feels Weird" borrowed from a comment that Mac & Laura's kid made about a tooth-loss vacancy? this is something that has bothered me for ten years now but I never had anyone to ask

the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 25 September 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link

mac & laura are married to different people and do not have a kid together

that sounds vaguely familiar tho. probably mac's child, as i think he writes all the lyrics

mookieproof, Friday, 25 September 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link

well shoot, you learn something new every day. not always the thing you were wondering about, but still

the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 25 September 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link

I think I might actually prefer their more recent albums to the "classic" 90s stuff which I was a little bit too old/weird for at the time

Well, it’s all the same song (lol)

― Scam Likely (morrisp), Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:06 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

but it's a good song!

― Josh in Chicago

this is true of many great bands!

sleeve, Friday, 25 September 2020 03:20 (three years ago) link

one of the great not-really-an-emo-band-but-every-member-of-an-emo-band-loooved-superchunk bands

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 September 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

What A Time to Be Alive is a masterpiece

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link

otm

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 January 2021 05:10 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

new album in february

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link

!!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Love this adorable picture of Wurster with his parents and grandpa:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_1600/d6def11edb558fe8b0e917cc9b05792a.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 16:46 (two years ago) link

I heard that Laura can’t play with them live anymore, due to extreme hearing damage? That’s really awful

Not Dork Yet (alternate toke) (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link

lol I thought I had clicked on the Big Thief thread and was like "wow whatever this aging filter is, it's really realistic."

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link

Not really feeling this new album. Only about halfway through so far but the only song sticking with me is “Endless Summer”

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 25 February 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link

I also didn't feel the new one. Not as loud, not as angry. Good for Mac for not needing to be, I guess.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 25 February 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link

the albums in their best stretch--here's where the strings come in through here's to shutting up--aren't very loud or angry. i think the comeback quality dip is just boring songwriting. i'd like to blame the arcade fire somehow.

adam, Friday, 25 February 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link

What A Time to Be Alive is a masterpiece

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 6, 2021 6:43 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

― mookieproof, Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:10 AM (

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 February 2022 22:20 (two years ago) link

i'd like to blame the arcade fire somehow.

I have not heard this new one yet but, uh, did I miss something?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2022 22:20 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CofAEmQOoDv/?igshid=NTdlMDg3MTY%3D

wurster out!

na (NA), Friday, 10 February 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link

He doesn’t mention Laura in that note - did she leave the band too at some point?

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 10 February 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

I think she retired from performing live (outside of one-offs here and there) due to hearing damage, but still plays on the records

JRN, Friday, 10 February 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link

But Wurster is still in Mountain Goats and (with Narducy) Mould? He's probably pretty busy for three bands.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 February 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

every time i saw superchunk my eyes were on wurster, it was so fun watching him play those songs

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

I think she retired from performing live (outside of one-offs here and there) due to hearing damage, but still plays on the records

― JRN, Friday, February 10, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Ah, that’s right.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 10 February 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

he's gonna be replaced by philly boy roy

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 February 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

that IG post struck me more like he was going laura's route, no? just not performing live with the band anymore.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 10 February 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link

I dunno, when you say your heart is not in it, it's hard to read that as any sort of hedge.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 February 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

oh damn. spent 30 years basically staring at him drum every time I've seen 'em. gonna be weird without him.

charlie brown from outta town (GM), Friday, 10 February 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link

I think she retired from performing live (outside of one-offs here and there) due to hearing damage, but still plays on the records

I can believe it. I saw them at Webster last year and it was one of the loudest shows I've been to, maybe the loudest.

birdistheword, Friday, 10 February 2023 23:42 (one year ago) link

My friend played guitar at a benefit in a band with Wurster on drums, and he said he hit harder and louder than anyone he'd played with before.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 February 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Mac (on drums/vox!), Soo-Young & Lexi covering TVPS on a rare(?) b-side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dHdpDW3IOE

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 17 August 2023 03:52 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

On the Mouth is a perfect album. There's not one dud on it. I'd be hard-pressed to choose between it and Foolish , however. Favorites are those two, along with Come Pick Me Up and the Incidental Music (singles, miscellany) album.

Surely this band has been disussed extensively on here, my apologies. My opinion is definitely skewed; a result of having found their music (beginning with OTM) early on, while i was still in high school. I managed to catch them live once (Lollapalooza 1995), and they didn't leave a strong impression. I recall being overly enthusiastic for a disinterested friend to see them perform, locally. Sonic Youth's performance (ofc, they had the main stage) thrilled me. Washing Machine's introduction coincided with my first year of college, and i became enamoured of them.

I've been returning to On the Mouth lately, and it never fails to get stuck in my head (several of the songs, esp. from side 1) ... the noisy feedback of the guitars works so well (compared to say, that of sonic youth) because of the quality of the songwriting / hooks.

I listened to Here's Where the Strings Come in around Christmas time (visiting home, 'Eastern Terminal' was a favorite) and I still have the tape cassette, but it wasn't so thoroughly encoded in my head. Indoor Living has 2-3 songs that i liked, but i didn't find it all that remarkable. CPMU was the first Superchunk album which stoked enthusiasm in my friends as well, which was nice.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Saturday, 30 December 2023 18:21 (three months ago) link

On the Mouth is by far my favorite too. I think the first half of Foolish might be their single best run of songs but the second half is not as strong.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 30 December 2023 19:15 (three months ago) link

On the Mouth is probably my favorite too. I saw them live touring for that record in a warehouse space where punk bands used to play in Tucson. It was an amazing show and I remember them just hanging around with the audience after 2ards.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 30 December 2023 23:49 (three months ago) link

this is my favorite album by my favorite band

mookieproof, Sunday, 31 December 2023 00:02 (three months ago) link

LA residents: this album was recorded across the street from the Toyota dealership one block east of Amoeba. They recorded it on a week break of a nationwide tour with Polvo (eg, Drive Like Jehu/Superchunk/Polvo in San Diego which was A++). They came into our station and did a couple songs on a live session to work them out as well ("Package Thief" for sure). Wurster was spanking new and already contributing.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 31 December 2023 00:08 (three months ago) link


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