The Strokes - Classic or Duds?

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The Strokes, are they the most exciting band to emerge in some time? Or are they ripping off old trends? Discuss.

Jon, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, we've done this already, believe me, though I don't know where it's been filed.

DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Word has it at BMG that the full length is gonna make all y'all Stroke haters eat your words. Of course, we signed the damn band, so . . . eh . . .we'll see.

bnw, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sure it will.

DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Please tell me this is a hoax

JC, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sigue Sigue Sputnik?

Andy, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Look, I haven't even heard the Strokes yet, but even if their debut LP is good, it doesn't make them "classic". Let's calm down.

Sean, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm telling you guys, they're an overhyped drag. They not terrible but they ain't no Velvets!

Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, I'll waste a few words on The Strokes since I finally heard that single. Not bad really, if it were released in 1974 ;) And this fake bad production trick is a bit sad in 2001 innit? On the voice: the guy sounds like Lou Reed's nephew, which comes down to being a fake of a fake. Mmm, now they sound interesting again :)

1 album/fake debates in Brit-press on the future of RAWK&ROLL/"Man, if you don't like The Strokes you don't like rock, man"/disappointing sales/2030: remember these guys?

Omar, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate their fucking names. What the hell kind of a name is 'Nikolai Fraiture'? Worse than that, guys with stupid names like that always get pussy!

dave q, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Five tracks from the album have already been released on the singles so far, which is a shame. Hard To Explain is wicked, The Modern Age is pretty good...

We'll see.

You can't really ask classic or dud before the debut album though, surely?!

Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The Strokes kind of got elected Top Band for ILM to Hate, thanks primarily to the Attitude of a Certain Capering Demon that ILM grew to love to hate, currently absent, due any minute now (sigh!) to return ("It is I! Doompatrol! HahaHAA!)

Who — completely by bad luck and unlucky timing — your first posts somewhat reminded some of us of, hence the mean-ass whirlwind you inadvertently walked into, Nick. i.e. We thought you were someone else in new disguise and were goading him out of hiding. Our instant disgreements would have been a lot more polite and friendly (or anyway less sneery) had DP not been buggering abt so assiduously up till a week ago.

Unfortunately a talk-board this big and diverse tends to acquire a hate figure to unify it: he left, you arrived, and you Got Elected. I would like to propose you are hereby UNELECTED (DG? Robin? Cool it!) as Top Hate Figure, because you have no more deserved it than I have. (Esp. as your outburst at OBJECTIVITY vs SUBJECTIVITY wasn't a meeeeeeellion miles from my own feelings abt some of it: ie that it was a bit ponderous and up itself..., tho some of it was somewhat more sarcastic than first meets the eye)

Your degree was in Popular Culture and Cultural Studies, wan't it? (Sorry, I read it in Introduce Yourself and have now forgotten the exact wording.) So a. You surely have intellectual interests in common with lots of us. b. You're probably a bit bored with the more dreary or inadequate reaches of same (jeezus GOD fair enough). We seem at this moment to be having a mini-season of replication of grad-school discussion of Lit Theory. Which ius getting nowehere because it is too REPECKFUL of FAMOUS-NAME cliches, and BOUGHT-IN READYMADE MEMES. (I won't say names NOW, because I am preparing devasting hilarious war oh yes...) (Is it a meme if it's rubbish?)

I think in its scrappy wayward dilettante way this board in 11 months has contributed FAR more to CultStud than several of the bigwigs on your booklist for your postmodernism essay ever have or ever will. Seriously. Better ideas anyway. Not followed through: this is the internet and instant hedonism rules.

This is a sort of apology/friendly gesture/welcome-to-the-board-after-a-v.hairy-start type thing.

Now: LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

So that means you like The Strokes, Mr.Sinkah? :)

Omar, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Nevah heard a note, Omah!! Doubtless they are toss.

mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Cheers! ehehehehehehe...

Um, thanks. Yeah.

Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard some Strokes sound samples finally.
Response: "Oh."

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The question should be: Do you like stuff that is 'Retro'? This music is for 13- year olds. Before they get into other, more 'progressive' stuff. Or for people who want to be 13 for ever end ever...

The same 13 year-olds who bought into Oasis all those years ago (myself included).

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not so much a question of "retro" as a question of being totally devoid of any other defining qualities. There's not a single reason to listen to them when they're stripped of their nostalgia factor. Plenty of bands can carry off a retro sound with a shred of originality/personality that makes them worth listening to.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, but they're having fun, aren't they? And that counts for something in my book.

I wish I was still 13, I could run forever and I was wicked a football.

Anyone who starts a track the way The Strokes start NYC Cops deserves a medal, because it's just got verve and spunk to it, and that's ace.

But I'm genetically pre-disposed to anyone who sounds like the Velvets and The Stooges anywa, especially if they chuck in some glorious pop hooks and some suggestion of melancholy.

Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I disagree- all you need is somes tunes, a singer that can sing and to look good and any band with a 'retro' sound can suceed. there are no other qualities that a retro band actually needs. Also, you seem to be saying that originality and personality are the same thing. Explain?

I actually don't like anyting that's remotely retro now because I really like music that appears to me to be more original/experimental but that doesn't matter in the world of pop. As long as they have a bit of charisma, they could be huge (even that might not matter- look at Travis?)

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well a band like Clinic has a distinctly retro (Velvets and doowop especially) sound, but also has a lot of qualities that separate them from being exclusively a nostalgia act. The presence of a Krautrock influence, brief incidences of lyrical brilliance, etc. They have more going than a simple robbery of previous styles.
And I'm not saying that originality and personality are the same thing, but that they can become inextricably intertwined.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not saying The Strokes are the best band in the world, far from it, but they have got some good tunes, an appealing attitude (to some), and an aura of excitement around them (whether it's pre- fabricated by the press or not).

I'd much rather listen to The Strokes than Travis. Why? More up my street. Plus the second track on the debut EP has the best drum beat ever...

ehehehehehehe...

Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Green Day?

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

sadly, i was in the monarch the other day, and they played a strokes record (don't know which one), it actually reminded me of weezer covering kicker conspiracy. this isn't necessarily a bad thing

gareth, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't mind them, but they're not going to save the world. They're just a slightly more oomphy Jonathan Fire*Eater.

alex in nyc, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The Strokes are just not what I need right now. I can't really say whether they're classic or dud at this point; I haven't heard enough of their output, and I think it's a little early to tell one way or the other. Still, they do absolutely nothing for me. I feel like - oh, I don't know, no matter what I say, it's going to come across as snide and arrogant - but dammit, there's so much MORE to music than the Strokes... That sounds terribly snobby, like I'm trying to say you should only like things that are Significant and Vital and Enriching, rather than things that are just fun. But the Strokes are such safe fun; it just feels like an exercise, especially what they're doing at this point in time - and context is important, iddnit?. I mean, the Stooges/VU/whoever were, and are, a great deal of fun, but it's at least partly because of what was going on around them at the time that they were so refreshing and amazing. (Sorry if that seems painfully obvious.) Now _Here Come the Warm Jets_ - THAT'S fun! (and it's also what I happen to be listening to as I type...)

Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i've had the album for the last two weeks - it's very good, though more remiscent of late 70s punk/po/clash ska than velvets - spoke to one of them last week cos they;re in oz right now - very hard workers,they don't believe the hype and are blown away by the overkill in the uk press.

Geoff, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What the fuck did they expect when they started getting attention over there, though? Are there really bands coming along who *don't* know how UK overhype works? Morons.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, Clinic is a bad example 'cause I never liked them- they always copied the worst aspects of the velvets and I'd like to know a bit about their Krautrock influence because from the songs I've heard it just isn't there.

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, Ned, but it doesn't happen to every band. Why the Strokes? The UK press (we really mean the NME when we say this, no?) seems to pick its saviours at random.

There are a million bands like the uninspiring Strokes, at least one of which is playing in a pub or bar near you tonight. If I was in a band as workaday as them, I'd be fucking *staggered* if we got two lines in the local freesheet.

Still, they're upper middle class and I understand daddy is a big cheese in the fashion industry. Probably explains a lot.

Venga, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Nancy Boy?

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I hear a lot of Faust and Neu! in Clinic.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Strange that. I hear a lot of Faust and Neu! in clinics.

Jerry, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I hear a lot of Kenny G in clinics.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You can take the Groucho mask off now, Everett. ;-)

Venga, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Find me a clinic where they *play* Faust and Neu! and I might just last the whole 28 days!

colin clark, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, the Strokes can't win. They've barely squeezed out a decent- sized log, and they're already suffering through a torrent of press (both good and bad). Stupid BMG is going to be eating their shorts with a severe lack of condiment assistance.

If you're going to focus on a New York rock group, go check out the Joyous Nu Order stylings of Interpol, or freaky-deaky Providence transplants like Les Savy Fav, or the posh new-wave poetry of My Favorite. And might I add that I'm terribly disappointed that the No- Depression types in the UK press STILL haven't picked up on the greatness that is Ida? (Or are you folks strictly looking at those folks that are only a few spiritual steps away from Nashville, like Laura Cantrell or Ryan Adams? They're all fine and good, mind you, but, for the luvva Loretta Lynn, open your bloody ears!)

And I think there's a definite Can-via-the-Fall garage rock thing happening with Clinic (especially on stuff like "The Return of Evil Bill").

David Raposa, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard an advance of the LP... it's pretty good, but the single was better, and that's not a good sign. They might do okay in the UK, but it ain't gonna fly in the US, is it? With that weird cheap microphone effect of EVERY song... Fred Durst and Brittany own this country.

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

No one aside from music geeks has even heard of The Strokes in the US.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay for Les Savy Fav! I saw them play in student lounges and house parties and they are lotsa fun. Tho I will always miss my favorite Providence band, Thee Hydrogen Terrors.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Double yay for Les Savy Fav. In case you're wondering why...

Why see a band? Stay home with a video of Kurt Cobain’s belches, if that’s your speed. You like the band who remind you of the time that you once had when the world didn’t matter. Personally, I like a band who can play to 30 people and make it seem like 31. A band who realise that rock shows are mundane, pointless. A passing diversion. Capes don’t do it for me. Neither do hair-slides. You think a band’s going to win me over through the sheer brilliance of their invention or musicianship? Get real. The last time I saw someone original, I was being belted on the back by a midwife. “Thank you. If you cheer loud enough, we will not return.” Music is the great comforter, the pacifier. Here’s the reason I like angular NYC quintet Les Savy Fav. They don’t remind me of any of the above bands. No. They remind me of explosive, obstreperous Dutch insurrectionists The Ex. (Hah!) Also, songs like “Wake Up!” , ‘This Incentive” and “Titan” (from new album “The Cat And The Cobra”) know when to start and when to stop. Frankly, though, neither of those are reasons at all - however frantically Mr Harrison Haynes bangs on his drums, or Mr Seth Jabour labours to invent slightly different sounds on his battered guitar. No. Les Savy Fav charm all 30 of us tonight in the UK’s Smallest Venue Offical - and believe me, it really does feel like there are 31 present - because they try. An event isn’t an event unless the people there treat it as such. So the deceptively normal-looking singer Mr Tim Harrington goes on walkabout. He examines an array of different objects - lights, fans, beer glasses, an audience member’s hand, turntables, the front door, every audience member’s back, the ceiling - while sing/shouting. He jumps up. He jumps down. He’s polite, yet intense. He makes us feel privileged to be in Brighton, England.

Sorry, but I thought someone might be interested. I have no idea what these Strokes are you people seem so interested in. But I do know what "Diff'rent Strokes" are.

Jerry, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If Todd Bridges were in the Strokes, I might be more interested.

Nicole, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah -- sounds like they've got Mr. Drummond-level scratch backing them up. I hear Charlene goes for leather dudes.

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

(Oh, yeah - the obvious gag. Har-de-har-har-har.)

Supposedly, at a show I attended, Mr. Harrington attempted to mount the face of an audience member. How the hell did I miss THAT?!? (Jerry - get that LSF bitch published somewhere, yo - they could use the press. And their latest release, actually, is the _Rome_ EP on Southern Records. New album coming soon, too!)

In the US, I doubt The Strokes would be able to sell water to dehydrated camels, no matter how good they are. Andy speaketh the truth - it's all about boobies (or, in Fred's case, boobs).

You want rock & melon-farmin' roll, you want some Ted Leo (who just so happens to have an album out on Lookout!, which seems to be quite the hot ticket nowadays, though I still need to get my own copy to judge for myself, but I liked Ted's 1st solo effort, along with Chisel's later efforts, so my endorsement for Ted is justified). (Thank you.)

Fuck the Strokes - name some other fresh-n-new rock bands, maaaaan.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

David-- Email me your mailing address and I'll send you a Ted Leo promo...Today!

Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I bought Rome(written upside down) after reading Kris's end of year list. Played it once and thought it was the worst record I'd ever heard. Put it on again two months later and it rocked like a crazed bastard. I understand it's normally classed as emo, but it sounds nothing like any of the other emo I've heard. The keyboards have something to do with it, but there's an intelligence and genuine aggression about it that is missing from most of yer obvious 'feel-my- pain' bog standard emo timechange frenzy. And it's got ace lyrics about Caeser and stuff.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe theyy should be called teh "Dopes" HA HA HA HA!!!!! (sucks fingers happily)

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I prefer The Chickens.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Name one -- ONE --- Rock'N Roll band this NOT retro in one way or another...please...we could discuss this forever. These kids weren't even inspired by the bands they've been compared to when they grew up -- they are teenagers for heaven's sake! I bet they went out to buy some Stooges, Chameleons, Television, Velvets only AFTER they read all hype that surrounded them. They loved Nirvana and Pearl Jam just as much as most of their fellow generation x'ers. And that's ok -- that's what makes them sound fresh. I've been going to Strokes shows for over a year and trust me, they have come a long way, musically speaking. I love their songs, what can I say....

stuck+in+nyc, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

come a long way = no more sets with the amp turned off

I saw the end of Les Savy Fav when they opened for the Ex at the Knitting Factory. Eh.

Dave M., Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

they dressed up like NYC 70s rock scene but sonically were closer to the Cars and Tom Petty

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, exactly, they started making more sense to me when i thought of the cars or like sniff n the tears

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:32 (three years ago) link

not surprised to see a ton of extra-musical dismissals here

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:37 (three years ago) link

I prefer Rooms on Fire -- it's funnier, more assured, songs about getting fucked up and their scene that are sharper musically and lyrically than the debut ("So many fish here in the sea/she wanted him, he wanted me"), but I'm not gonna argue about it. Minor band.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:40 (three years ago) link

Not culturally

albvivertine, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:43 (three years ago) link

I'm gay, we don't affect culture

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:43 (three years ago) link

Visage and Ultravox are minor bands too. They affect culture more than greater ones.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:44 (three years ago) link

love Fischerspooner. lol i love the Wire cover too, i prefer it over the original.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau)

The second Fischerspooner album is secretly really brilliant, especially A Kick In The Teeth which was even better than Emerge.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:57 (three years ago) link

Yeah Yeah Yeahs were fanrastic up until Mosquito, and It's Blitz! is easily one of my favourite albums of that decade without question.

I always thought Fischerspooner were crap.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 01:08 (three years ago) link

Visage and Ultravox are minor bands too. They affect culture more than greater ones.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:44 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Island-era Ultravox were a very influential cult band.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 01:10 (three years ago) link

Agreed!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 01:16 (three years ago) link

I will also defend the s/t - they got unfairly slated for how depressing and bleak it was...for some reason?

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

lol

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 01:29 (three years ago) link

sonically were closer to the Cars and Tom Petty

back to back "American Girl" and "Last Night" is a great DJ move.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 02:07 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

the inevitable hyperbole-laden retrospective -
"it was a bomb in the middle of a plastic pool"? sounded to me like just another bunch of guys with guitars.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/27/that-was-it-how-the-strokes-and-new-york-rock-ripped-up-british-music

The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:43 (two years ago) link

i see this has been largely covered upthread, carry on.

The XX pants (ledge), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:44 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Comedown Machine should really be considered on par w/the first two imo

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:09 (two years ago) link

otm

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:09 (two years ago) link

Completely agree. One of the most underrated albums of the decade.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:26 (two years ago) link

damn ok i should revisit it.
love the first two.

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:35 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

The new single is good but the video is...stunning? What in the hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CAz_vvsK9M

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 02:30 (three months ago) link

i'm excited for this and i hope the like five others here who also adore comedown machine are too

"at the door" is a bit of a left-turn and sounds like a very stripped down phrazes for the young track but it's not bad. there's shitty footage of them playing another new song "bad decisions" yesterday which sounds very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3ZoII-w3GY

ufo, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 02:38 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbZTnZDvPA

yeah i love this one

ufo, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 22:28 (three months ago) link

Count me in as one of the five who loved Comedown Machine. Really like both of these singles. I especially ove the guitar sound on Bad Decisions and the not-so subtle nod to Billy Idol's Dancing With Myself.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 22:58 (three months ago) link

listening to Comedown Machine now, this sounds great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 23:13 (three months ago) link

three previous posts otm

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 23:17 (three months ago) link

There’s a Billy Idol writing credit. Either he did help write it or it was a pre-emptive move to not get sued for it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:58 (three months ago) link

Almost certainly the latter.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 04:01 (three months ago) link

Sounds more like "I Melt With You" imo than anything by Billy Idol.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 05:47 (three months ago) link

Oh yeah, wait... the chorus definitely bites "Dancing."

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 05:49 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jna3dWEnzo

this one sounds like a phrazes for the young track but doesn't quite do it for me

ufo, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:24 (one month ago) link

love it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:50 (one month ago) link

i think the individual sections are decent enough but they don't quite fit together?

ufo, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:55 (one month ago) link

Well I liked the Strokes and the Libertines and the Stone Roses [cowers in corner, awaiting rain of ILM boots]

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 6 April 2020 14:09 (one month ago) link

i feel like rick helped julian find his way with vocal delivery again or something. he was stuck in that weird drawling thing for years. he sounds noticeably better on all of these to me compared with last few strokes and voidz albums.

anza808, Monday, 6 April 2020 14:30 (one month ago) link

Ah, this is so great. Really can't wait for this album now.

kitchen person, Monday, 6 April 2020 15:32 (one month ago) link

album is pretty good on first listen. it's closer to comedown machine than any of their other albums, though not quite as good. really like "the adults are talking" and "eternal summer" and "why are sundays so depressing" is the most phoenix song they've ever written lol

ufo, Friday, 10 April 2020 03:27 (one month ago) link

Solid album but definitely doesn't excite me the same way Comedown Machine did. I'm surprised how downbeat and subtle it is, especially the second half. The production reminds me of Angles but the songwriting is much stronger this time round. Julian sounds great throughout.

kitchen person, Friday, 10 April 2020 03:46 (one month ago) link

I’ll def listen to this.

I did get around to Comedown Machine. Love “happy ending”!

brimstead, Friday, 10 April 2020 04:22 (one month ago) link

went back to Comedown Machine to compare and that's still such a great album

ufo, Friday, 10 April 2020 05:21 (one month ago) link

Opening track is such a welcome surprise. I still need to listen to the rest but Julian’s voice sounds the best it has ever sounded on this one. Not sure if he sobered up, took some singing lessons or this is all Rick Rubin pulling wizard tricks.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 10 April 2020 06:25 (one month ago) link

Yes - opening track seems strong. The Strokes are so drenched in nostalgia for me: very strong memories of 2001 when they were ubiquitous.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 10 April 2020 23:40 (one month ago) link

sounds great

that's not my post, Saturday, 11 April 2020 01:17 (one month ago) link

Eternal Summer is the only one I'm not totally sold on right now.

kitchen person, Saturday, 11 April 2020 01:25 (one month ago) link

this is the best julian's voice has ever sounded

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:58 (one month ago) link

lol whoops didn't read moka's post. otm

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:59 (one month ago) link

lol I don't think Rick Rubin does much except sit on a couch

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2020 22:02 (one month ago) link

need to hear this, big Comedown Machine fan

I feel kinda bad I feel like these guys can't win, no matter what they do it's going to be compared unfavorably to the first two

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2020 22:04 (one month ago) link

i like this record a lot but the tempo is generally pretty sleepy, whereas comedown machine has that mania i crave

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 22:24 (one month ago) link

this album and the last one should switch titles

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 16 April 2020 23:13 (one month ago) link

completely baffled that RYM has decided this is their long-awaited return-to-form, not Comedown Machine

like this album is solid enough with a few real highlights but it's got nothing on Comedown Machine

ufo, Friday, 17 April 2020 04:34 (one month ago) link


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