Eve's Philly Cheese Steak

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I had a three paragraph intro to this, but I suspect no-one would even make it to the question.

This will make little sense if you've never heard Eve's first album (Ruff Ryder's First Lady)

So: there's a short (107 seconds) skit just before "Philly Philly", where two guys go into a fast food store and one of them orders a philly cheese steak from the guy behind the counter (whose ethnicity I've embarrassingly forgotten: I think he's generic arabian) and specifies "with this, and this and this", and the guy behind the counter goes "what the hell are you talking about? A Philly Cheese Steak doesn't have any of that shit on it! Its this and this and this". And they get into "You're not from around here, you don't know philly, you don't know this are and that area." "To hell with you! I know philly! I'm from this area, my brother works over in that area", and the whole thing ends with the guys leaving in what seems to be a good humour.

Now, I don't listen to a hell of a lot of gangster rap (which is why I'm asking ILM), but I know enough to recognise that the skits aren't exactly a model of progressive dialogue. So am I totally not getting this, or is this saying "yeah, you don't have to be black or on the streets to be real."?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 15 June 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

the moral is simple: don't fuck with a cheesesteak

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

seriously, you have no idea how primal and basic this is

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I really wish Bruce Springsteen albums had skits where Bruce would call out all the fake-ass Bruce Springsteens (he could rhyme "Johnny Cougar" with "get my luger"). Or where some punkass tries to dis Asbury Park. Or where he calls out the haters who think he's gone soft after "Nebraska." There's so much blunt, naked, self-awareness that old rock stars hardly tapped.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 15 June 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

P.S. this thread makes me want a cheese steak so bad I could cry.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 15 June 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

For the first time in years or more, Anthony actually makes me WANT to hear Springsteen, even if a totally nonexistent one.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember back when she started to get big, MTV featured a Diary episode where she and her crew visit her favorite Philly cheesesteak joint to show the viewers that you do not mess with perfection.

Philly cheesesteak grease = nectar of gods

Francis Watlington, Monday, 16 June 2003 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

you really shouldn't fuck with a cheesesteak

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 16 June 2003 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I fucked with a cheesesteak once. Now I have short-term memory problems and a prosthetic ankle.

Millar (Millar), Monday, 16 June 2003 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

P.S. this thread makes me want a cheese steak so bad I could cry.

anthony, yer in the same state as cheesesteak central ... i would think that since penn state no doubt has lots of philly students, and that at least some state college restauranteurs would have enough $$$ sense to cater to them ... so it shouldn't be that hard to get a decent cheesesteak out over in state college!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 16 June 2003 05:55 (twenty-two years ago)

uh yr non-american viewers can someone please explain what the hell a cheesesteak is?

possibilities :
(a) a steak encrusted with fried cheese batter
(b) a steak injected with cheese (y'know, like they do with sausages)
(c) like a cheeseburger, but with steak

Ess Kay (esskay), Monday, 16 June 2003 07:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the skit is clearly saying "meat is murder".

Adam A. (Keiko), Monday, 16 June 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, the only thing that's really clear is that by not having a cheesesteak, I can't hope to understand anything.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 16 June 2003 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that fecal porn again?

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 16 June 2003 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Worse.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 16 June 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Cheesteaks = classic

and that's coming from an englishman!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 16 June 2003 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

It looks like what happens to a sandwich if you put it in the microwave.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 16 June 2003 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

DO NOT FRONT ON THE CHEESESTEAK.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: hip hop tracks with cheesesteak references.

Slimm Calhoun - It Ain't Easy

Bobby D Gray (bedhead), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)


Yo yo
Forget the club today we're playin' the block
It's goin' down and it's blazin' hot
Jeff pop the new CD turntable joint
You just got to get the amps from Boogie get the fan from Rock
And then call up Bishgebibble Jims & Pats
And tell them we need cheesesteaks for like 300 cats
And yo, make sure it's hot or else I'm sendin' it back
And get my mic right if I get hyped I might rap
Then take the speakers, find a good spot
Subs on the bottom, tweeters up top
Yo you know where little John lives on the corner
The extension cord will run perfectly to his crib
And then tell officer Mike to bablecade the block
Regardless of what car you got, leave it up top, hop
You want to come you got to come on your feet
Ain't nothin' like havin' a party when it's out in the street
Come on

9:00 I'm a call my crew
At 10:00 we're gonna roll on through
I don't know what you gonna do
But whatever you do hit the block party tonight
All the ladies rollin' up with friends
And don't be late or you won't get in
Party packed from beginning to end
Everybody tell a friend that the block party is tonight

It ain't nothin' like havin' a party on the block
When everybody knows everybody on the block
And everybody on the block come to the party on the block
And when the sun drop, we don't stop
Funny how fast they travel the word
A dozen divas from Philly drove in when they heard
That there's a block party down in West Philly
Come block party with Jeff and Big Willie
Stand back
Everybody come to see the man rap
Jeff's got it *scratch* jam packed
Everybody hands in the air
Just get your hands in the air
Yo Philly (that's where the party is at)
D.C. y'all (that's where the party is at)
A-T-L (that's where the party is at)
West Philly (that's where the party is at)
Midwest y'all (that's where the party is at)
Dirty south now (that's where the party is at)
I can't hear y'all (that's where the party is at)
Wherever we at (that's where the party is at)

9:00 I'm a call my crew
At 10:00 we're gonna roll on through
I don't know what you gonna do
But whatever you do hit the block party tonight
All the ladies rollin' up with friends
And don't be late or you won't get in
Party packed from beginning to end
Everybody tell a friend that the block party is tonight

Yo and when the sun drops
Back in Philly that don't mean that the fun stops
All it means is that it's time to turn the lights on
All day long I've been plotting on this nice joint
10:00 now Jeff is tryin' to hype me
Would the Fresh Prince come up to the mic please
Hear the crowd cheer brought a little smile out
Mic check 1-2 I'm about to while out
I know he's old but maybe there's a slight chance
I can get my brother hype make him break dance
Naw maybe not let me get the crowd jumpin'
Let me hit them with the brand new funk or somethin'
I'm like Rob Base I wanna rock right now
Y'all know who rock the block right now
All we need is a mic and a beat
And a couple of speakers and some turntables out in the street
Come on

9:00 I'm a call my crew
At 10:00 we're gonna roll on through
I don't know what you gonna do
But whatever you do hit the block party tonight
All the ladies rollin' up with friends
And don't be late or you won't get in
Party packed from beginning to end
Everybody tell a friend that the block party is tonight

scott seward, Monday, 16 June 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.davidpatrone.com/Literature/Cheesesteak.htm

seems to have a good definition of a proper cheese steak. couldn't locate the clavin trillin screed, but it's well worth reading. as is the piece a philly papper did last year, with the food writer and a number of high school students/aspiring food writers did an assesment of philly's best cheese steaks.

bucky wunderlick (bucky), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

that picture is fucking taunting me

and i hate pats!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i would tell someone to go just about anywhere EXCEPT geno's or pat's for a cheesesteak. for dramatic purposes they do look good in rap videos though.

scott seward, Monday, 16 June 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

it is all about the steakbomb

kephm, Monday, 16 June 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.bestcheesesteaks.com/


scott seward, Monday, 16 June 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to say that the title of this thread sounds really, REALLY dirty.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I had Pat's and Geno's and didn't get it.

Jim's on the other hand ... look out.

mosurock (mosurock), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i get really disappointed when i see people who have lived in and around philly all their lives (like ahem my parents) take outoftowners to pats or genos for that "real philly experience"...you can find a better cheesesteak at the mall in my hometown!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread has determined my choice of lunch. off to Galooney's!

Bobby D Gray (bedhead), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

in ann arbor, the best place for a philly cheesesteak is at Sottini's, which is also the best place for a philly sub, which i shall be dining upon today.

fun fact: Sottini's is located only a block east of the current world headquarters of AMG, and yet i never ate there even when I worked at at AMG.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i want a cheese steak so bad i feel like crying, this thread is a taunt

H (Heruy), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I had one for lunch today.

*runs away*

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 16 June 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

kingfish--no such thing as a "philly sub"

it's a hoagie!!!

yeah, and i prefer jim's, too.

seanp (seanp), Monday, 16 June 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

oh? ask the folks there why it's referred to as a "Hot Philly Sub".

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 16 June 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

'cause they're not from philly yo!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 16 June 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

the only cheese i would put on a steak is something strong like stilton, or in the absence of that, roquefort. cheddar on top would be gross!
i'm guessing that stilton or rocquefort (maybe it is called 'freedom cheese' or something) would be unacceptable for a philly cheese steak...

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

you really shouldn't fuck with a cheesesteak

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

tho the best thing to put on, ambrose, is (cheeze) whiz...

bucky wunderlick (bucky), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, cheez whiz is the appropriate cheese for a philly cheese steak.

a former roommate of mine used to live like 2 blocks away from both pat's and geno's. one summer night i crashed on her couch. she had no air conditioning. so basically I laid there, sweating and slowly going insane from the sound of 800 drunken speeding morons heading back into Jersey in souped-up Hemis, crotch rockets, whatever might make the loudest motorrific combustion noise whatsoever, to get a steak on the way home. this noise starts at around 5pm and ends at 8am. i wish i would have recorded it.

mosurock (mosurock), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
do not fuck wit a cheese steak

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The Best Cheesesteaks

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 14 August 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently the US Virgin Islands has what Alaska and Hawaii do not.

Also apparently there's a good place over on Fairview and Wilson here in Costa Mesa. Hm...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 August 2003 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

that website is faulty, since it assumes that you can get a "best" cheesesteak outside of southeastern penn or south jersey.

also, that washington post writer needs to be shot for insinuating that cheesesteaks are served with fucking cheez-whiz.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 14 August 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Ahem, Strongo, if you look about five posts up...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 August 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

c'mon mr. hulkington, there are tons of places in philly that serve 'em with cheese whiz.

H (Heruy), Thursday, 14 August 2003 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

sob.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 14 August 2003 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
do not fuck with a $100 cheesesteak

pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

“You shouldn’t mess with the Philadelphia cheesesteak,” groused Samuel Lehrer, who was eating takeout Chinese several blocks from Barclay Prime.

pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a chicken cheese steak today and it really soothed my nerves.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I get good cheese steaks around the corner from my office all the time. Today I had a meatball parm sandwich, though.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I really would like a cheesesteak. I don't even know where the closest place is to get a great one (and by close I mean the midwest).

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
This is AMERICA... WHEN ORDERING 'SPEAK ENGLISH'

oh my lovely cheesesteak, how the mighty have fallen.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, he's just busting their stones.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

There are plans afoot for a mass exodus to Geno's, where we will order cheesesteaks in a multitude of foreign tongues.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Geno's is a bit scary. Me and my friend were walking through South Philly and a couple of kids on bikes flashed guns at us & kept following us. We ducked into the first business we found, which happened to be Gino's, and asked them to call the cops. Suddenly there were twelve Italian dudes ripping their shirts off, ready to go "kill those niggers." I was like, did I just fall into "Do the Right Thing"?

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

i'm trying to get beck to shoot a youtube video at geno's wherein he asks "Sprechen Sie Deutschy, baby?"

geno's has always sucked and this is turning out to be a good piece of publicity for reactionaries who like shitty cheesesteaks. additionally, it just so happens that danie1 fau1kner is a fine cheesesteak salesman.

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

X-post: Pat's wouldn't be any less scary on that score.

The funny thing is, there are only about six words you're allowed to use in ordering there, and many of them aren't exactly standard English: wit', wiz, gravy (meaning tomato sauce).

But Steaks On South (which is actually damn good, if overpriced) just put up a big sign "Order In Any Language You Want, We Will Serve You With Brotherly Love". (Of course, they probably won't get the order right if you use Amharic or Magyar, but it's the thought that counts, I'm sure . . . )

Vornado (Vornado), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

geno's has always sucked and this is turning out to be a good piece of publicity for reactionaries who like shitty cheesesteaks. additionally, it just so happens that danie1 fau1kner is a fine cheesesteak salesman.

someone please photoshop the rotting corpse of d4ni3l f4ulkn3r into a genos cheesesteak, OK PLZ THX.

i know there's people with a better grasp of the italian language than myself; perhaps they can tell me what the word for "cheesesteak" is? right now i suppose "voglio un panino" would work.

But Steaks On South (which is actually damn good, if overpriced) just put up a big sign "Order In Any Language You Want, We Will Serve You With Brotherly Love".

tony luke's has a similar sign.

such a shame that i like d'alessandro's best!

mts (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

the moral remains the same.

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

There is nowhere within lunching distance I can get anything even remotely resembling a cheesesteak. This is going to be a very long day.

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)


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