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Just forwarding this message i received today... not too clever tho' it does say that this proposed solution to illegal filesharing is illegal... here's hoping...


Powerful Senator Endorses Destroying Computers of Illegal Music Downloaders

Tuesday, June 17, 2003

WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee (search) said Tuesday he favors developing new technology to remotely destroy the computers of people who illegally download music from the Internet.

The surprise remarks by Sen. Orrin Hatch (search), R-Utah, during a hearing on copyright abuses (search) represent a dramatic escalation in the frustrating battle by industry executives and lawmakers in Washington against illegal music downloads.

During a discussion on methods to frustrate computer users who illegally exchange music and movie files over the Internet, Hatch asked technology executives about ways to damage computers involved in such file trading. Legal experts have said any such attack would violate federal anti-hacking laws.

"No one is interested in destroying anyone's computer," replied Randy Saaf of MediaDefender Inc., a secretive Los Angeles company that builds technology to disrupt music downloads. One technique deliberately downloads pirated material very slowly so other users can't.

"I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights."

The senator, a composer who earned $18,000 last year in song writing royalties, acknowledged Congress would have to enact an exemption for copyright owners from liability for damaging computers. He endorsed technology that would twice warn a computer user about illegal online behavior, "then destroy their computer."

"If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Hatch said. "If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize" the seriousness of their actions, he said.

"There's no excuse for anyone violating copyright laws," Hatch said.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, the committee's senior Democrat, later said the problem is serious but called Hatch's idea too drastic a remedy to be considered.

"The rights of copyright holders need to be protected, but some Draconian remedies that have been suggested would create more problems than they would solve," Leahy, D-Vt., said in a statement. "We need to work together to find the right answers, and this is not one of them."

Rep. Rick Boucher, D-Va., who has been active in copyright debates in Washington, urged Hatch to reconsider. Boucher described Hatch's role as chairman of the Judiciary Committee as "a very important position, so when Senator Hatch indicates his views with regard to a particular subject, we all take those views very seriously."

A spokesman for the Recording Industry Association of America, Jonathan Lamy, said Hatch was "apparently making a metaphorical point that if peer-to-peer networks don't take reasonable steps to prevent massive copyright infringement on the systems they create, Congress may be forced to consider stronger measures." The RIAA represents the major music labels.

Some legal experts suggested Hatch's provocative remarks were more likely intended to compel technology and music executives to work faster toward ways to protect copyrights online than to signal forthcoming legislation.

"It's just the frustration of those who are looking at enforcing laws that are proving very hard to enforce," said Orin Kerr, a former Justice Department cybercrimes prosecutor and associate professor at George Washington University law school.

The entertainment industry has gradually escalated its fight against Internet file-traders, targeting the most egregious pirates with civil lawsuits. The Recording Industry Association of America recently won a federal court decision making it significantly easier to identify and track consumers -- even those hiding behind aliases -- using popular Internet file-sharing software.

Kerr predicted it was "extremely unlikely" for Congress to approve a hacking exemption for copyright owners, partly because of risks of collateral damage when innocent users might be wrongly targeted.

"It wouldn't work," Kerr said. "There's no way of limiting the damage."

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Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The senator, a composer who earned $18,000 last year in song writing royalties

??!!

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

He wrote "Dirrty" for Christina Aguilera.

NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I call for an immediate boycott of all albums containing Orrin Hatch-penned songs! Download 'em instead!

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

What would be the law regarding a US music company destroying my computer, based outside US territory and beyond US copyright controls? Could I construe it as an act of war and launch retaliatory action?

phil jones (interstar), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Please do.

Adam A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I made fun of Orrin Hatch's suit when he stopped to talk to myself and a group of friends whilst on his 2000 presidential campaign. It was green! I asked "What is this, felt?" Anyway... he seemed like a clueless old politician then, and this makes him look even worse now. I refuse to buy any more of his music!

Bobby D Gray (bedhead), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

somebody go on Slashdot and find that link about politicos & industry heads eager to violate the DMCA just to protect their control & income source.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

ahem people! ahem!

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The Nowhere
Men
Professional virus-writers for Hatch!

-- excerpted from "Nation of Heevahavas"

George Smith, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)


Slashdot riot on
Hatch Heevahava-ism.

George Smith, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know if you know anything about Orrin Hatch, but he's an asshole.

Nice fucking idea, Hatch. And if people continue to buy CDRs, we should destroy their cars.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 19 June 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Mr Hatch said damaging computers "may be the only way you can teach someone about copyright".

And going and puncturing his tires may be the only way to teach him about destruction of personal property. Sigh.

kate (kate), Thursday, 19 June 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.hatchmusic.com/songs.html

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy... God...

Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone else notice the downloadable links on that website? No way in hell I'm clicking on those, knowing his opinions on the internet!

kate (kate), Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The Republican Party: escalating the war against any possiblity of parody.

Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

God Bless Our Homes & Families
Someday I'll Fly
I'm Goin' to Pray for this Land
Put Your Hand Over Your Heart
America Rocks!
Little Bits of Cloth
It Will Always Be America For Me
The Answer's Not in Washington
Four Chaplains on the Sea of Glory
An American RainbowGod Bless Our Homes & Families
Someday I'll Fly
I'm Goin' to Pray for this Land
Put Your Hand Over Your Heart
America Rocks!
Little Bits of Cloth
It Will Always Be America For Me
The Answer's Not in Washington
Four Chaplains on the Sea of Glory
An American Rainbow

Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

America Rocks!!!!

Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Ashcroft and him should duet. (And when they're both in the same place...detonate the semtex...)

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.hatchmusic.com/images/donnie.gif

Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that Paul Williams?

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 19 June 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

For a second I was going to joke about the Donny Osmond wannabe and then I realized it WAS Donny Osmond.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 June 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the guy on the right is bubbles from trailer park boys

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 19 June 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Come...wallow in the irony....
Orrin Hatch: Software Pirate?

Senator Orrin Hatch a Pirate?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 20 June 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)


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