Has it never been re-released, or am I just being really stupid?
― Robin Goad (rgoad), Monday, 30 June 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 30 June 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― JasonD (JasonD), Monday, 30 June 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jeff K (jeff k), Monday, 30 June 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Monday, 30 June 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― earlnash, Monday, 30 June 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 30 June 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 30 June 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― phil turnbull (philT), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― rejectoplastikomicuspluspusticumulungus, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
There's also a Pop Group/Mark Stewart live boot CD called Mona Mona which is really dirty sounding (sound quality wise) but is great, nonetheless.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)
I still need to track down the self titled Mark Stewart from 1987 on CD. It's a weird hodge podge of a record, but I need "Anger Is Holy" and the full "Fatal Attraction" (as well as the Sakamoto/Sylvian cover of "Forbidden Colours")
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)
frustrating, I totally tried to offer to reissue everything, the individual Pop Group albums and such, but had no luck contacted Stewart through someone else.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)
I'd be open to any suggestions for other contacts. I was emailing with the guy at Heartbeat about the Glaxo Babies but he may have lost interest. There is a pigbag cd, but no Maximum Joy or Rip, Rig and Panic.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)
all the stewart mute album should be available at mid price at mutebank, go to www.mute.com
the sj comps is a bit so so, really, and no tracks from "mark stewart" (third album) which is oneof the greatest album ever (learning to... also!)
― frankesko, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)
But hearing As The Veneer in the late 80s was as mindblowing as the first time i heard SPK's "Slogun", or heard Flipper... in a I-didn't-know-they-could-make-music-THAT-fucked-up! way.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)
But I think that last track off the As The Veneer CD is titled, and it's called "Dreamers" there if I'm not mistaken... It's also on the "Hypnotised" 12" (but not on the 7", which I also have.) But I don't doubt you, That's-not-cocaine!-It's-Ian-Riese-Moraine!
(I'm glad I finally got to address you like that, btw.)
(oh and yes, I'm a pa-fucking-thetic Mark Stewart/On-U geek.)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)
i sold the missing brazillians lp :(
(but then i also sold as the veneer lp and just kept the 12" - o the things i have done!)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
About Akabu, ah well.. at least I have that one track.
I actually remember when PIAB 1 was "no more than 3.99 pounds". sigh.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)
i'll hook you up w burn of annies record if you like :)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
POP GROUP.. WHY NO "Y"?????
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)
there is a rumour circulating that the pop group may reform for some shows but i'll believe it when i see it. mark stewart is playing some shows soon with the maffia (sherwood mixing) in the uk. if it is 10% as awesome as the '..veneer of democracy' shows, i'll be very, very happy.
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm referring to track 11 on the CD. Track 10 is "Dreamers", the next one is the untitled remix of "Igloo Inn".
― That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― That's not cocaine! It's Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)
yeah, keith, I'll email you off-list.
back to the Elvis tv show.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)
in any case, there are 3 versions of John Robie's Yashar on your CD, and a note explaining the difference.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)
I just went looking for details, and The Glasgow School comp looks fabulous. What a great year for overdue reissues!!
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 12 May 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)
the track on the comp is called (i think) akabu theme. "akabu akabu akabu-bu-bu-bu" chanted chorus.
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 12 May 2005 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.vennfestival.com/friday.htm
due to Soul Jazz issuing a lovely comp of the mans work.
i expect a rather gorgeous noise will be made.
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Is it? Because I swore that there was an extra track inserted in the ALBUM track listing somewhere in the CD, because "Pay It All Back" is not where it's supposed to be if you count from the top down. I have the vinyl too, so I'm basing what I believe each album track is off that.
Anyway, I believe you that "Dreamers" is that remix of "Igloo Inn".. but I think it really is also called "Dreamers" and isn't untitled, because I think the "Hypnotised" 12" -- which has that same track -- says "Dreamers" somewhere on it as well.
Minutae minutae I know. I'm sorry.
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, not sure if you know about them, but these sites are pretty great resources -
Pop Group Jukebox: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~edge/pop_group/juke/
and
Pop Group General: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~edge/pop_group/index.php
The guy in charge has done a pretty outstanding job.
― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)
also - re-reading rest of the thread .. Akabu did release an album .. not classic on-u stuff .. very laid back and easy on the ear .. nowhere near as good as the track on PIAB1 which is a real shame as thats a classic.
now i'm totally getting psyched re June 3rd ..
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)
― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 13 October 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)
― Mad Senti (jaxon), Thursday, 13 October 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 13 October 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)
They tend to go for around £20.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)
Maybe no one has asked aboot it. Rhino/Warner Strategic Marketing seems willing to license/manufacture the WEA catalog to tiny labels all the time (see the Water/4 Men with Beards, Scorpio, Wounded Bird catalogues, for example).
― Vic Funk, Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)
this page:
http://weare.hacca.jp/pop_group/
has the details.
Any initial response to the Pop Group has nothing to do with this, as WEA saw fit to release the stuff on CD in the 90s during an earlier revival of interest in post-punk. Either that or it's just a coincedence that I was discovering all that stuff around then, maybe their release of those CDs helped kick-start the revival. It may have been UK and Japanese imports, but they sold plenty to hipsters and collectors in the us. I know the record store in Oberlin where I bought it had to order it like 3 times.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)
Huh:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-pop-group-to-reunite,41354/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 May 2010 03:20 (sixteen years ago)
There's no word yet on which members are part of the reunion or where and when any live dates will happen, though the album is tentatively scheduled for September.
still, WOW
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Friday, 21 May 2010 03:41 (sixteen years ago)
man, what the hell. double bill with Jethro Tull in the cards, mebbe?
― (I Just) Died In Your Asshat Tonight, Friday, 21 May 2010 03:58 (sixteen years ago)
one of the weirdest reformations ever. i had wind of this a few months ago and put in an offer for a show but they were looking for crazy money (i have a feeling audience demand for this won't be huge).
i hope it's more of an authentic line up than the laughable slits one that is out there gigging.
― stirmonster, Friday, 21 May 2010 14:42 (sixteen years ago)
Why is it laughable? Is it because it's not all the original members playing the old stuff only?
― Mark G, Friday, 21 May 2010 14:49 (sixteen years ago)
I guess everyone has their price!
But, as long as they're doing it, how about a reissue of For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 21 May 2010 14:50 (sixteen years ago)
does anyone know what to expect from a pop group show in 2015? they're playing the former austin psych fest/now levitation mini fest in chicago
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 14:32 (eleven years ago)
I don't know for sure but here's something from a Quietus review:
Whilst their studio recordings were great, it didn't prepare me for how genuinely thrilling and downright danceable The Pop Group were live, when I first saw them playing The Garage in 2010 and again when they shared a New Year's Eve bill with Sonic Youth, Shellac and Factory Floor later that year.
and this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPWrv_niG0Q
(live in Oct. 2014)
I would go if they were playing anywhere within a 6-hour drive of me
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 16:11 (eleven years ago)
i bought a ticket already -- just wondered if anyone knew what they were going to sound likelineup is great so far!!
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 17:07 (eleven years ago)
There were a couple of recent live sets upped to Dime a bit before Xmas. Sounded about as good as the late 70s recordings.I had feared them getting nastily jazz funky after some clip I heard when I first heard they reformed. But the recent sets I heard sounded edgy. Don't remember hearing unfamiliar songs though. So hope they remain as good with the new stuff.Lp review in Wire seemed pretty positive.I hadn't realised it was due out so soon.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:14 (eleven years ago)