The Breeders - Classic or Dud?

Breeders = Classic up to (and, on the right day, including) Title TK.

The Breeders = major, major classic. Many of my fondest adolescent memories were soundtracked by The Breeders' music. Plus, Kim Deal has the most brilliant sense of humor. I saw her on the cable access program "The Hondo Show" recreating a scene out of Showgirls with one of her Amps bandmates and the host of the program. The fact that I can still remember this about four years after I saw it first is a testament to how memorable the scene was/is.

And Title TK needed to be in the Top 40, damn it.

lord custos, are you on crack?

Last Splash - my CD's been played so much it's gone all quiet and muffled and basically fucked (I didn't even know this was possible but...there you go), loveit loveit loveit even though "Cannonball" was for years the most overplayed indie club tune EVAH and - for shame - ended up immediately preceding my departure from whichever club on the grounds that "if the DJ's still playing that...sheesh" etc.

Title TK stands up well with the above, agreed, but I've perhaps not given it the exhaustive attention it deserves. Hmmm.

Anyway. Breeders=brilliant, Jo Wiggs was always my favourite but now she's disappeared (anyone remember Honey Tongue? Aces). Is she related to Pete?

Title TK is pretty good as well. But Last Splash fucking rocked like a monster when I was in middle school and still does so when I listen to it now. I listen to it a lot now.

Good God I am old.

How exactly are you going to wave them if they're already cut off?

I'll bet Ned started crying and gnashing his teeth when they played the theme to Buffy though!

-- Tom Breihan (lazerbee...), July 14th, 2003

Well, I think I know what your problem might be. Them ol' pair of ears need some quick replacing, gramps! :)

"How exactly are you going to wave them if they're already cut off? "
--My name is Kenny

SH*t you're kidding right?

-- Francis Watlington (peppermintsmok...), July 14th, 2003.

No! Dude! I get to make fun of you for being old! That's how it works! Nobody gets to make fun of me for being young! Don't make me fuck you up with my Nerf dart gun!

They've been playing it at most of their recent live shows, I wasn't saying it for the sake of being random.

(and yes i like the breeders way more than the pixies)

(btw the amg is a little messed up for kelley deal. boom boom boom doesn't show up under 'kelley deal 6000' but does under 'kelley deal')

I remember a cover of "The Angry Inch" from Hedwig, which is far cooler on several levels. Or so I deem.

Sweet! My more or less complete Breeders Collection is counting on you. I promise I will make it worth your while.

Just saw the show in DC area at Fillmore Silver Spring. They were having fun and sounded strong.

The slick feeling zine comes with a Breeders heart pin and a sticker for $15! Entertaining but the zine is a bit skimpy

Digest #2 came with a pin that I lost long ago, to my eternal regret.

I didn’t see your reference to the zine till after I got home from the show . My wife brought it back to me at the show when she went to look at the merch and I was just at our seats

No worries. The first Breeders Digest came with a live CD and the second one came with a 7" that had a couple of demos of unreleased songs. The actual content of the digest was thin but still fun.

oh right, that's where Live In Stockholm was first released. With No Aloha on it, by the way, which they dropped from CD3 of Last Splash LSXX

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_in_Stockholm_1994 <- track 8 here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Splash#LSXX_track_listing <- No "No Aloha" in Stockholm here

Pretty fun interview/in-studio performance on World Cafe (Sep 22, 2023)...lots of giggles: https://www.npr.org/sections/world-cafe/2023/09/22/1134906818/the-breeders-celebrate-30-years-of-last-splash?ft=nprml&f=613820055

i legit lol'd when Josephine Wiggs says the only place she gets identified at is at Trader Joes

“Divine Mascis” is great, J should have joined the Breeders.

His “Do You Love Me Now?” is pretty great.

It like that they get a schlubby nonsinger to replace the Deals vocals.

Cow_Art, I’m really sorry… by the time I got to the front of the merch line, they were sold out of the zine. :(

Awwwwww, man! Thanks for trying! There's always Ebay.

Once upon a time Kelley Deal may have been the weakest link at some point (30 years ago?) but holy shit she's in top form (aside from a couple flubs on "Flipside"). Absolutely killed it, she's got some big shoes to fill (her sister's, Tanya's, Joey Santiago's) and she is beyond capable. How could you not love this band!

Cow_Art, the merch line was like 60+ mins, sorry... :(

Thanks for thinking of me, I appreciate it!

None on Ebay yet. It's a little tricky because there's actually a couple of Breeders Digest publications, one about dogs and another for guinea pigs.

copy of zine obtained. can send to you after I read it lol

Some show notes

Kim mentioned they recorded Last Splash in San Francisco but neglected to mention that the studio* was a block and a half away from The Warfield on Mission & 6th.

Ironically because of the shitshow of Market St construction, my exit for the venue was exactly right in front of the building the studio formerly occupied.

*I think she called it Coast Recorders but it was actually Brilliant Studios.

Also when covering "Drivin' On 9" there was no shoutout to Dom Leone who wrote the song and lived in SF most of the 90s/00s.

I'd never seen Jim play so many Pod songs at once so it was interesting to compare his style with Britt's.

Had no idea Jo and Jim switched instruments for "Roi"... the psychedelic midsection of which was incredibly trippy.

Had no idea "I Just Wanna Get Along" was Kelley's song.

Reiterating Kelley can absolutely shred with the best of them. She was surprisingly stellar on the material when she wasn't in the band!

They replaced Carrie Bradley with someone named Sophie Galpin who had a Mancunian lilt but she could play 3rd guitar and violin very well.

Thanks, Shakey!

xp Dom Leone died in 1989.

Oof, Dan Leone I meant!

His brother, the ukelele player.

Triple oof, I just misgendered her FFS.

I didn't know "Drivin' On 9" was a cover until last week (after the show, my wife looked up & played the original).

this seems to come as a surprise to many people, sadly. The original is definitely superior, the Breeders version excises several key lines and verses, which undercuts and obscures the narrative that makes the song work imo.

also Cow Art just webmail me where to send the zine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuR-wL5sh_M

Worth mentioning that violinist Carrie Bradley in above video of ERQ playing in Oakland was originally a member of (pre-Pod) The Breeders and then again sporadically throughout the 90s.

Also when covering "Drivin' On 9" there was no shoutout to Dom Leone who wrote the song and lived in SF most of the 90s/00s.

how does webmail work

LL, no:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed%27s_Redeeming_Qualities

figured it out!

Thank you SS

i tried looking for a thread, but Ed's Redeeming Qualities is great. Breeders could've made a new American songbook digging through their works.

Cow_Art check yr webmail, you should be receiving the zine soon if you haven't already

honestly we should change the name of this thread because "dud" is not an option.

i have been on a Breeders kick because I never listened to any of the post Last-Splash albums. Enjoying it IMMENSELY.

I still put on All Nerve a lot, it's a good morning album!

All the post Last Splash catalog is great but I love love love Title TK

The only bummer about the classic lineup getting back together is that it makes Title TK and Mountain Battles seem lesser, which is not the case.

I got the zine!!! Thanks a million! How do I check my webmail?

Title TK was a revelation. Ive gone back to it several times. Love the nonsense lyrics and meaty sound. Listening to Mountain Battles after it made me realize that Kim Deal will make a cool sounding song out of basically anything.

Has anyone seen the iguana???

How do I check my webmail?

login to the email account that you use to login to your ILX profile

xpost Kim has a real knack for surreal turns of phrase. I think about the line "I need spit/to crush these beetles on my lips" from "Skinhead#2" on All Nerve all the time

Here's a challop: the only Breeders album I don't play often is Pod.

I’d love the zine, please

Oh. So webmail means the email goes to my regular email account?

If that’s the case, I have no emails pertaining to the Breeders Digest.

But I have an address and I know how much it cost, so I think we’re good.

Here's a challop: the only Breeders album I don't play often is Pod.

― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 17:00 (yesterday) link

It's funny that with the In Utero anniversary and the attendant discourse all the stuff about how them wanting to work with Albini becuz of Sufer Rosa, which I am not discounting, but I haven't seen any mention of Pod which at the time seemed, and listening to both records recently, to be a pretty obv sonic template, I mean "Happiness is a Warm Gun" sounds exactly like something on In Utero

Every time I listen to the Amps record I think "oh I don't really remember this record" and the second it starts I realize I have it memorized

first song on the Amps record has been one of my go-to random out-of-nowhere just-start-singing-out-of-thin-air melodies for 30 years

"now i'd liiiike to get back..."

In "Tipp City" I thought I was mishearing this but she really does sing "I have relations with anonymous internet nation", which feels both of the times and truly prophetic