Arthur Doyle: what next?

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I really like Live @ the Cooler & Alabama Feeling. Not crazy about Songwriter. What should my next Doyle purchase be?

― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 13 July 2003 22:14 (twenty years ago) link

Noah Howard's The Black Ark.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 13 July 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

The Songwriter is really awesome, though.

Maybe check out the collab he did with Sunny Murray called Dawn of a New Vibration.

― Clay, Monday, 14 July 2003 03:25 (twenty years ago) link

If you can still find it, Plays and Sings from the Songbook is excellent, but it sounds as if you don't completely 'appreciate' his solo stuff, which is understandable (tho it's my favorite stuff for sure) and that album is most certainly that. I second Black Ark, that rules. Also, his stuff with the Les Rallizes Denudes guy (it's a trio) is excellent. Basically, he's a genius.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 14 July 2003 04:05 (twenty years ago) link

"Also, his stuff with the Les Rallizes Denudes guy (it's a trio) is excellent."

Holy hell. Tell me more. Is this still available?

― Clay, Monday, 14 July 2003 04:11 (twenty years ago) link

I'm definitely down with Howard & Murray. I was not aware he was on a Noah Howard release. Thanks for the info! And yes, the Doyle/Mizutani thing is groovy.

― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Monday, 14 July 2003 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

Is the Doyle/Mizutani thing available on CD? I've only heard about it being out there on vinyl. And Black Ark is totally out of print, and sells for $200 or somewhere in that range on used vinyl, so recommending it to folks is more of a cruel joke than anything else.

I have Alabama Feeling, Dawn Of A New Vibration, Live @ The Cooler and Live At Glenn Miller Cafe, another duo with Sunny Murray released on the Ayler label. All have their moments. I don't think I'd buy a solo disc by him, though. And I had a trio disc he recorded with Dan Warburton and somebody else, The Basement Tapes, which sucked, so I sold it.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Monday, 14 July 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

second roger's suggestion of the trio with mizutani and toyozumi. it is only available on dbl LP. check the qbico (sp?) site.

It isn't a killer set from beginning to end tho' but its mostly there.

check out live NY 1980 by the blue humans. that's excellent.

will get more someday.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 14 July 2003 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

Noah Howard's absolutely the way to go. It's the best Arthur Doyle's ever played. As for the stuff under his own name -- I think Wesley Willis is funnier and more self aware.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

colin - that's just wrong, dude.

"Ozy-layy-dey, Dozee lady-Ohh..."

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 03:48 (twenty years ago) link

haha why am i not surprised at colin's post.

i suppose since that discussion on the blue humans thread i can sort of see what colin is saying abt the way arthur doyle plays (honks and screams, really pushing the line as to what is 'acceptable' in that kind of context).

I think Zorn took something from that as well. also both have played in units that have tried to blur the line between genres as well.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 08:55 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...

I got alabama feeling through soulseek and that's quite good but then i got a couple of tracks off 'The black ark' (there are another two cuts but the person who had it cut me off: the bastard!). Anyway, been just listening to it and the sound of Noah and doyle trading blows is just tops.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 November 2003 18:27 (twenty years ago) link

THis 'Black Ark' thing is rapidly shooting to the top of my must-get list. Julio, you and I are pretty copacetic (sp?) in the taste department, so I'm truly sold. Really, there was never any doubt since I like Doyle & Howard anyway, but there you go... Noah's releases on ESP Disk were superb.

― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 1 November 2003 18:36 (twenty years ago) link

I think the spelling is ok.

i really need to get those esp discs.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 1 November 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

Yowzah! Just sourced a copy of "The Black Ark"!

― Tom D., Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't go wrong with BABI -- w/Milford Graves and Hugh Glover. There is no more definitive "energy music" record (and after hearing it you'll wish everyone would cease their fruitless attempts to come anywhere close to this).

Problem is, it's way the fuck out of print and hard to track down.

― Standing In The Shadows Of Bob, Friday, 20 April 2007 01:51 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

R.I.P

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Sunday, 26 January 2014 02:44 (ten years ago) link

oh man

alabama feeling is still prob the rawest - in terms of tone and emotion - free jazz alb i've ever heard

― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 26 January 2014 21:54 (ten years ago) link

:-(

Babi sounding rly good right now.

― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 January 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link

RIP, blasted The Black Ark with windows open.

― Liquid Plejades, Monday, 27 January 2014 05:05 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

https://img.discogs.com/4mv7TSbELXAKO7wK8MFQhZak518=/fit-in/600x450/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-11590159-1519361148-3388.jpeg.jpg

have been intrigued by this for a while.

trio record with bobby few and somebody called benoit gazzal on bass @ "Studio des islettes, paris, 2001." clearly there's a fourth musician playing guitar but they're uncredited.

curious if anybody knows anything about it.

secondhand copies are $$$ but it appears to be on youtube for now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMTuMxewo4M

it doesn't appear to be on this discography which i found in an AD record, forget which:

https://i.imgur.com/92rnTDm.jpg

nor is it here:

http://ajbenjaminjr.tripod.com/arthurdoylediscography.pdf

― budo jeru, Friday, 3 July 2020 03:27 (three years ago) link

really digging the arthur / sunny murray collaborations today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxs_q7Ot1Xc

― budo jeru, Sunday, 12 July 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link

For those who need it, Milford Graves' Babi has been reissued on CD, and paired with a previously unreleased session from 1969 by the same group.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 12 July 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

those '69 tapes are just fucking nuts

― budo jeru, Sunday, 12 July 2020 00:22 (three years ago) link

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