"Tusk": Fleetwood Mac vs. Camper Van

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I think the, um, space jam in Camper's is, um, trippier ...

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Fleetwood Mac easy - I've listened to this album like eight times in the past week (nine times in the past year!)

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

see also "Rumours": F Mac vs Dougal Reed (ie Quickspace)

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I was just really surprised at the Old Town Folk & Roots Festival (best audience patter, to CVB: "So are you folk--or roots?!") when Camper started playing it. Haven't heard their recent stuff or whatever, but I figured 'not,' so I jokingly go to guy beside me, "Heh, didn't know they covered 'Tusk.'"

But they did. Yeah, Blount's probably right, but CVB's version was pretty good too, and points for picking it in the first place. Liked the tapeloopy babble stuff CVB did in the middle, too--pretty logical idea (it worked).

But yeah, I played Fleetwood Mac's version in a bar right after the show, and that's the version that's still stuck in my head, so ...

Fact: 99% of the jukeboxes in Chicago feature this song.

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The Mac.

The CVB version is fine if you are sitting around doing whippets, but it seemed like a misstep at the Folk & Roots Festival. Their set sort of derailed there. I suppose I judge everyone (fairly or unfairly) against Patti Smith's set a few years back. CVB wasn't close.

― gusbot (eternal_fields), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I listened to the CVB version once and couldn't even make it all the way through. Tusk is too good a record to listen to "fucked up" versions of the songs, I guess.

Fleetwood Mac all the way.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 05:16 (twenty-two years ago)

But, but, but...
CVB recorded the whole album, _Tusk_, one lazy weekend and it's soo much better.
They're such a better band (IMO) that there's no comparison.

― Squirl Plise, Tuesday, 15 July 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

tusk (the song) is such a good piece of musique concrete art it's hard to believe FM came up with it

i did read somewhere that some of the $,$$$,$$$ sessions for tusk (the album) were conducted by lindsay buckingham in his bathroom using new lo-fi technology -- well ok, at least that song sounds more like something from the dead c than from fleetmac

― george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

it's only "hard to believe" if you operate entirely at the level of press-release cliche, george

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The CVB version is fine if you are sitting around doing whippets

ouch! (set kinda came back for me there, though. like your trip after an, um, ah ... never mind)

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I really really love Camper Van Beethoven but their Tusk sucks. FM rule all.

― adam (adam), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

By that I mean coke-fueled craftmanship vs bongwater smelling indie dicking around come on.

― adam (adam), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Fleetwood Mac vs. Dead C

― Sam J. (samjeff), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Does

some of the $,$$$,$$$ sessions for tusk (the album) were conducted by lindsay buckingham in his bathroom using new lo-fi technology

coke-fueled craftmanship

???

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, actually.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

just checking ...

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno. I got it (the Mac's Tusk) for real cheap a couple o' months ago, and I just found it boring, dull, and monotonous, not to mention Stevie Nicks' voice REALLY annoyed me for the first time. And I used to think she was tolerable all the while before that. But that's just me.

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i know all those words but that sign makes no sense

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

francis - try listening to just the buckingham tunes

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"that's all for everyone" might be my fave fake beach boys tune

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

well mark, i wish the rest of the supposed magnum opus sounded anything like as interesting as the title track, but i don't need to read anybody else's re/view to know that it doesn't, i just kept myself fingers crossed listening to the rest of the album

and whatever the $$$$$$$ equates to, whatever techniques the members of the band used, it worked for that "tusk" track but not for many of the others -- to me that track's actual tangible evidence of a studio bender, whereas a lot of the rest sounds like fm busines as usual

& i wish there were more big hits that sounded like that "tusk" -- i'm not just surprised f.m. came up with it, i'm surprised it emerged in pop music at all

maybe their "albatross" song has similarly evocative effects for other listeners, maybe "rumours" rewards repeated listening given all those decent songs on it

yet fleetwood mac's m.o. is by their own admission a tabloid travelling circus (even if they don't like to 'lose control' of the media i suppose anymore than anyone else) -- is the news about their new album as interesting as the gossip, rumour, speculation still surrounding 'tusk'? give me 3 cds of "the tusk sessions"

― george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

ditto to the last sentence

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

But the question was Tusk:: FM or CVB? And after seeing CVB do it live, there's no doubt. Not even ten bong hits would change my mind.

― gusbot (eternal_fields), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 04:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Well I liked it, if somewhat less than FM's; but I gotta admit I'd've rather heard, oh, "Jack Ruby," or "She Divines Water," or "Queen of the Laundromat," or "Ice Cream Every Day," or, you know, any number of their own hits ...

(OK, I knew I wasn't gonna hear "Jack Ruby," but still.)

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Right, right. Any of those. I wanted to hear "Seven Languages" myself.

― gusbot (eternal_fields), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

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