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This could be pretty interesting...

"Whisky and Water"
"Blood"
"The Not-Knowing"
"Tiny Tears"
"Travelin' Light"
"Rented Rooms"
"Buried Bones"
"A Marriage Made in Heaven"
"Tyed"
"Don't Ever Get Tired"

Ten of the best songs ever written, esp. "A Mariage Made in Heaven".

― Clay, Thursday, 17 July 2003 04:27 (twenty-two years ago)

marbles
can we start again

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 17 July 2003 04:30 (twenty-two years ago)

It could be interesting if you said anything about them.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 July 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

they are songs. they are pleasing to my ears. end of story.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 17 July 2003 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

the whole of simple pleasure will do fine.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 17 July 2003 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"It could be interesting if you said anything about them."

What really needs to be said? Take an amazing instrumental lineup (Dickon's brooding, rich violin, Neil's syncopated swagger on guitar, a rhythm section that can do everything from soul to indie rock with equal skill) that can play it cool but is equally as likely to erupt into full-blown violence, and top it off with one of the best voices in music (Stuart Staples' six-sheets-to-the-wind, pack-a-day-smoker croon). They're the musical embodyment of world-weariness, lovesickness, desparation, and ambivalence, but there's a glimmer of hope in their stuff as well.

As cliche as it sounds, Curtains has been my soundtrack for many a night spent drunk and alone.

― Clay, Thursday, 17 July 2003 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't stand his voice. It's horrendous.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 17 July 2003 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I can see how a lot of people wouldn't like it, but horrendous? How so?

Also, just out of curiosity, who are some of your favorite vocalists?

― Clay, Thursday, 17 July 2003 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i think they write and perform great ballads, i think less of their violin-scraping drones and world-be leonard cohen tales of drunkenness and despair.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 17 July 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like his pinched tone and quivering delivery; and I just really have no use for maudlin emotionalism in my music these days.

Favorite male vocalists? Uh off the top of my head Steve Marriott, Jeff Buckley, Milton Nascimento, Mark E. Smith, Frank Sinatra, Mark Lanegan, Teddy Pendergrass...

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 17 July 2003 05:43 (twenty-two years ago)

No use for "maudlin emotionalism"? And yet you list Jeff Buckley as one of your favorite vocalists?

For what it's worth, Mark E. Smith may be my favorite male vocalist ever, and I like Sinatra and Steve Marriott. Haven't heard enough of the others to have an opinion.

― Clay, Thursday, 17 July 2003 05:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Buckley's not maudlin. He's just blessed with an amazing voice. I don't know if it is possible to have a voice like his and not be forceful and declarative. Unfortunately we don't have much to go on, but on Grace anyway there is a wide range of shading employed. That is something I have not gotten from the Tindersticks stuff I've heard. It's just down to the use of the voice, I guess.

I find I like either really amazing technicians - Buckley, Sinatra (though there are hugely better Italian-American singers technically) and oh of course also other jazzers like Joe Williams, Ernie Andrews, Johnny Hartman, etc. - or great sounding amateurs who really embrace and seem to love the natural sound of their voice - Smith, Marriott when he goes cockney, also people like Dylan, Richard Manuel, etc. Perhaps the Tindersticks fellow actually just sort of sounds like that all the time; but I doubt it. There is something I find affected about him that is off-putting.

But, ok; challenge to me: I am downloading some songs from your POX and will reconsider...

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 17 July 2003 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm with mr. diamond re stuart staples' (wretched beyond belief)singing and with amateurist's general description of the tindersticks' music.

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 17 July 2003 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

yay!! (i have never heard tindersticks, clay, so yr list wasn't doing much for me)

geordie racer to thread!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 July 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I like it when he sings "Shut up I'm Thinking. Shut up, Im Thinking. I'm thinking, so shhhhuuuuutttt uuuuuuuuuaaappppp"

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 17 July 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

funnily enough I can't understand why ppl like Buckley and his vocals. I find them needlessly operatic.

Staples is a great sounding amateur and their first alb is brilliant so you should get it tracer.

''i think less of their violin-scraping drones''?!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 17 July 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

well not actually "drones" as in drone-on but their long repetitive mood-piece songs with lots of violin solos. they're respectable but i think the do ballads best and simple pleasure is pretty much all ballads. it's their most restrained and generic (as in: genre) album and i like it best, but it took me a while to come to that conclusion.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 17 July 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

also nice vibraphone on that album.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 17 July 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

amt tindersticks did songs on that first alb (you may not have heard it). they do instrumentals but there aren't drones.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 17 July 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i have all their albums. i don't understand your comment.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 17 July 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i already said i didn't mean drones literally.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 17 July 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

my comment=> there are no (literal or non-literal) drones there.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 17 July 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

ok fine, i mean dirge-like long songs with "experiemntal" touches. it's not that i don't like them, i just think they do other stuff better.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 17 July 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

bathtime and whatever the name of the slow song that comes after it is, they're both magnificent, esp. the latter with that series of rounds on the melody. i haven't had a chance to absorb this new one, but probably something from it. i don't really listen to their first album any more.

― dave k, Thursday, 17 July 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I was really disappointed in the new one at first. I still think it's a little too unfocused, but I'm coming around.

― Clay, Thursday, 17 July 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

ok the following list should give a sense of what i prize in this band. also, i haven't listened to the new one enough to include anything from it.

travelling light
tiny tears
no more affairs
city sickness
can our love...
can we start again?
if you're looking for a way out
if she's torn
(you take) this heart of mine
what is a man

i really like "rented rooms" save for that dreadful moment where he sings "fucked" like he's really proud of himself.

"no more affairs" and "if she's torn" are really really great.

a lot of their songs sound the same, don't they? and they have a really good drummer.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 July 2003 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard much, but "People Keep Comin' Around" is an INCREDIBLE song.

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 18 July 2003 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)

"what is a man" really bugs me for some reason - especially the "he knows how to..." bit. don't like it.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 18 July 2003 05:26 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

Revive! 'cause I've been super into them in this wintry time, and I'm wondering when they'll release another bloody record.

A Night In
Another Night In
Blood
Dying Slowly
Can Our Love?
Until the Morning Comes
Her
People Kepp Comin' Around
Can We Start Again?
Buried Bones

― Simon H., Friday, 18 January 2008 03:24 (eighteen years ago)

err, "Keep".

― Simon H., Friday, 18 January 2008 03:25 (eighteen years ago)

their debut album's so good. i can't do a decent pick only ten cuz it would be all songs from that one. but "jism" would be on top. "if there's ever anyone else, i'll understand, and kill him"

― kamerad, Friday, 18 January 2008 06:15 (eighteen years ago)

From http://www.thomasbelhom.com/nowen.php
"I'm collaborating on "the hungry saw", the new album of Tindersticks, it should be released in april 2008.."
And from wiki (somewhere): A notice on the website of Thomas Belhom, who toured with Staples and played drums on his solo albums, announced that Staples' band will record a new album in June 2007 in France, probably using the name Tindersticks.

Dickon not involved, by all accounts.

― Bocken Social Scene, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

yeah it's my understanding that they were kind of defunct and staples was the only driving member these days; unfortunately, his solo albums are ok, but they don't reach the heights of the debut or II for me. maybe this one will be a little more varied

― akm, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

If you ask me, the less Dickon Hinchliffe the better. Let's hope Boulter is on the keyboards though. I love his organ playing.

― kwhitehead, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

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