Which of these albums have stood the test of time?Albums that have missed out are Blur, Oasis, Verve,Manic Street Preachers, Massive Attack, Underworld,Leftfield, Orbital. All of whom probably stand up more now than many of the winners.
― Rab, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 03:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Will O, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 03:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Will O, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Neudonym, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)
Great album!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 06:07 (twenty-two years ago)
i think that was the idea behind 'the short list': http://www.shortlistofmusic.com/which i think was started by a couple LA industry people. and it seems to have close ties to kcrw and my evil nemisis nic hartcourt.
― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 06:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:15 (twenty-two years ago)
Possibly because, according to the Guardian this morning, judges choose records on the basis of how many times they can listen to 'em in a row, and on whether anyone would object if you put the record on at, er, a dinner party.
This was used as a reason to suggest that Dizzee would not win.
This fuckin country. I swear.
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― russ t, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:30 (twenty-two years ago)
the rest: ok, in their own way, maybe classics in their genre
― daarkbee, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:39 (twenty-two years ago)
ahem: You know you're getting old when........
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― russ t, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:44 (twenty-two years ago)
was she a meat eater on that record or something?
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 10:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)
Ssssh! Don't let C*L*M hear you, he'll have apoplexy!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― robin (robin), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― FACT275, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)
Watch this space for further updates on the panel of Listmakers and key dates for the project, which will culminate with an Awards Concert in Los Angeles in October of 2003.
they better step it up over there...
― david day (winslow), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rikki, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)
isn't this a reasonably good measure of the quality of an album?
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jacob Marley, Thursday, 24 July 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)
Eliza Carthy has seen the most dramatic rise Fans have been flocking to discover some of the lesser-known Mercury Prize contenders since the shortlist was announced, figures have revealed.
Sales of many albums "at least doubled" the day after the announcement, national high street chain HMV said.
Folk singer Eliza Carthy saw the biggest jump - of 750% - but started from a low base, a spokesman said.
One bookmaker has made Dizzee Rascal, 19, a garage MC from east London, favourite for the prize.
This year's shortlist of 12 CDs was announced on Tuesday. They will compete to be named album of the year in September.
Among the artists in the running are rock bands Coldplay, Radiohead and The Darkness, jazz performer Soweto Kinch and hip-hop duo Lemon Jelly.
Find out more about the 12 nominees
Audio gallery HMV figures showed that many artists sold between 50% and 150% more copies on Wednesday than they did on Tuesday.
Better-known nominees like Coldplay and Radiohead did not benefit so much because they had sold so many already.
"At this stage, it's the lower-profile acts, who haven't had that much exposure, that tend to do well," HMV spokesman Gennaro Castaldo told BBC News Online.
"[But] they start from a relatively small base so the increase tends to be more dramatic."
South London soul duo Floetry - who have been more successful in the US than the UK so far - saw demand for their debut jump 200%, he said.
Another soul singer, Terri Walker, sold 118% more while Lemon Jelly's figures were up 55% and Martina Topley-Bird rose 46%.
Coldplay are the fans' favourites to win the prize Mr Castaldo said: "It does demonstrate that, in its 12th year, the award has come on a great deal.
"When it started out, it was seen as something that was fairly low-key and maybe an elitist thing. But over a number of years, that has changed."
This year's contest is thought by many to be one of the most unpredictable for years.
Bookmaker Ladbrokes has made Dizzee Rascal its 5-1 favourite - slightly ahead of Coldplay, Radiohead, The Darkness and The Thrills, all at 6-1.
Coldplay are leading a poll of BBC News Online readers, with Radiohead second and The Darkness third.
My bets are on Floetry as theyre big in USA but unknown here. So they have the potential to sell the most out of all the unknown albums, also wont be favourites so there will be no accusations of fixing as usual. Therefore Mercury Music Prize gains credibility by picking out something that sells shitloads due to them being the 1st to 'notice' them.
― Rabid John, Friday, 25 July 2003 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)
I hate the Martina Topley-Bird nomination this year, because too many people seem to think it's a Mercury sort of album anyway when it and she are just so much better than that.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 25 July 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 26 July 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― rashid, Saturday, 26 July 2003 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)
Among this year's 20 listmakers are Dave Matthews, Tori Amos, Tom Waits, Coldplay's Chris Martin, Spike Jonze, Cameron Crowe, Mos Def, Gwen Stefani, the Neptunes, the Roots' Ahmir "?uestlove" Thompson and Erykah Badu.
― Rashid, Saturday, 26 July 2003 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Robbiej, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Garry Brown, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― B Gibson, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Boy Wonder, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)
Did anyone ever think that? She's cool and all, but that album had, like, four good songs max.
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)
All the ones I've heard (again, not counting Miss D) have stood the test of time remarkable well, sez I. I met one of The Darkness last night and he was a. genuinely chuffed to bits at their nimination and b. modest but quietly confident that thay're in with a chance.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Carrie, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Raymondo, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)
Primal Scream - ScreamadelicaSuede - SuedePortishead - DummyPulp - Different Class
While Badly Drawn Boy comes pretty close.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)
Primal Scream - ScreamadelicaPortishead - DummyPulp - Different ClassBadly Drawn Boy - The Hour of the Bewilderbeast PJ Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
Of its Time (or will be):
Suede - SuedeRoni Size and Reprazent - New Forms Gomez - Bring IT OnMs Dynamite - A Little Deeper
Dunno:Talvin Singh - OK
Naah:M People - Elegant Slumming
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Of the others: yes, Screamadelica was unarguably great in its day, but I haven't played it for close on a decade; Suede maybe should have got it for Dog Man Star in '94 (was it '94?) rather than M People (though the Prodigy's Jilted really ought to have won that year). Pulp: well maybe, but I'm scared to play it anyway for well-documented personal life-related reasons. Badly Drawn Boy: ditto. Roni Size: underrated record, but Reprazent are better live. PJ Harvey I think went seriously off the boil after about '93. Gomez: nice enough record but haven't listened to it in five years. Talvin Singh: only ever played once, though I never got rid of it. Ms Dynamite: decent enough record but haven't played it, oh, for about a year.
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)