Rhino Records' 3-Disc Punk Rock Set

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Disc One:

"Blitzkrieg Bop," Ramones
"White Riot," The Clash
"Heart Of The City," Nick Lowe
"Boredom," Buzzcocks
"(I'm) Stranded," The Saints
"Neat Neat Neat," The Damned
"In The City," The Jam
"Final Solution," Pere Ubu
"Roadrunner," The Modern Lovers
"Little Johnny Jewel," Television
"One Chord Wonders," The Adverts
"Born To Lose," The Heartbreakers
"Search And Destroy," Iggy & The Stooges
"Let Me Dream If I Want To," Mink DeVille
"Oh Bondage Up Yours!," X-Ray Spex
"1 2 X U," Wire
"Blank Generation," Richard Hell & The Voidoids
"(Get A) Grip (On Yourself)," The Stranglers
"Cherry Bomb," The Runaways
"Personality Crisis," New York Dolls
"Teenage Depression," Eddie & The Hot Rods
"Two Tub Man," The Dictators
"Hey Joe," Patti Smith
"Your Generation," Generation X

Disc Two:

"Lust For Life," Iggy Pop
"Gary Gilmore's Eyes," The Adverts
"Saturday Night in the City of the Dead," Ultravox!
"What Do I Get?," Buzzcocks
"X Offender," Blondie
"Lookin' After No. 1," The Boomtown Rats
"Don't Dictate," Penetration
"Bingo Master," The Fall
"Free Money," Patti Smith
"The Modern World," The Jam
"Chinese Rocks," The Heartbreakers
"New Rose," The Damned
"Ambition," Subway Sect
"See No Evil," Television
"Suspect Device," Stiff Little Fingers
"Mannequin," Wire
"Baby Baby," The Vibrators
"Love Comes In Spurts," Richard Hell & The Voidoids
"First Time," The Boys
"Sonic Reducer," Dead Boys
"Shot By Both Sides," Magazine
"Mystery Dance," Elvis Costello
"Trash," New York Dolls
"The Day The World Turned Day-Glo," X-Ray Spex
"Do Anything You Wanna Do," Eddie & The Hot Rods

Disc Three:

"Ready Steady Go," Generation X
"Teenage Kicks," The Undertones
"Complete Control," The Clash
"Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll," Ian Dury
"Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've?)," Buzzcocks
"Rocket U.S.A.," Suicide
"Mongoloid," Devo
"Homicide," 999
"Mr. Big," The Dils
"Warsaw," Joy Division
"Where Were You?," The Mekons
"Lexicon Devil," The Germs
"(My Baby Does) Good Sculptures," The Rezillos
"The Wait," The Pretenders
"We Got the Neutron Bomb," The Weirdos
"Pablo Picasso," The Modern Lovers
"Action Time Vision," Alternative TV
"2-4-6-8 Motorway," Tom Robinson Band
"We Are the One," The Avengers
"Borstal Breakout," Sham 69
"Wasted," Black Flag
"Sheena Is A Punk Rocker," Ramones
"I Love Livin In The City," Fear
"She's So Modern," The Boomtown Rats
"Ghosts Of Princes In Towers," Rich Kids
"We're Desperate," X
"You Drive Me Ape (You Big Gorilla)," The Dickies
"Dancing the Night Away," The Motors

Truck Turner, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

No ANGRY SAMOANS! = a two tub turkey of a list.

Truck Turner, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

no, that's not thunder - it's the distant rumbling of every ILM contributor over the age of 38 muttering "got, got, got, got, got...." under their breaths

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

damnit, i fuckt up - there's a 4th disc too:

Disc Four:

"Hong Kong Garden," Siouxsie & the Banshees
"Public Image," Public Image Ltd.
"Hanging On The Telephone," Blondie
"Top Of The Pops," The Rezillos
"Adult Books," X
"The Sound Of The Suburbs," The Members
"California Uber Alles," Dead Kennedys
"Another Girl, Another Planet," The Only Ones
"(I Want To Be An) Anglepoise Lamp," The Soft Boys
"Radio, Radio," Elvis Costello & The Attractions
"Typical Girls," The Slits
"Human Fly," The Cramps
"Psycho Killer," Talking Heads
"Babylon's Burning," The Ruts
"If The Kids Are United," Sham 69
"Alternative Ulster," Stiff Little Fingers
"Boys Don't Cry," The Cure
"She Is Beyond Good And Evil," The Pop Group
"Is She Really Going Out With Him?," Joe Jackson
"Get Over You," The Undertones
"Love Like Anthrax," Gang Of Four
"Into The Valley," Skids
"You Can't Put Your Arms Round A Memory," Johnny Thunders
"Peaches," The Stranglers
"Love Will Tear Us Apart," Joy Division

Truck Turner, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"Is She Really Going Out With Him?," Joe Jackson?

Truck Turner, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

It's so all over the place. You've got "Pablo Picasso" (recorded in `73) by the Modern Lovers rubbin' shoulders with fuckin' FEAR and Sham 69. Where's the cohesion? Where's any semblance of chronology? Bah! Shoddy, I say.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Moreover, does anyone really need another Punk Rock compilation? I mean, I love all this stuff dearly (well, not all of it....never much cared for Mink DeVille nor the Slits....I know, call me a heretic), but to anyone who is curious, aren't there already a bajillion like-minded (and better assembled) compilations of this sort?

It's a bit surprising, actually, as Rhino is generally pretty scrupulous in their work.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Love Will Tear Us Apart is definitely Joy Division at their most punk.

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

"Is She Really Going Out With Him?," Joe Jackson?

Single from his first album Look Sharp (1979)

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

no shit sherlock

Truck Turner, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

If I didn't have a compilation of this sort of stuff, this one would do fine. What's the problem?

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd imagine that a good portion of the audience for such a thing probably would have a big chunk of this collection.

That being said, it would still sound good put in a four disc player set on random.

earlnash, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

It's already pretty random.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"Pretty girls walking with gorillas down my street" - Fantastic.

This box is the same as the 1234 box, but with more US stuff like The Dils and X on there instead of the likes of Eddie & The Hot Rods, The Wasps and Johhny Moped. I heart the 1234 box very much indeed.

Oh and they're allowing more than one track per artist unlike 1234.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so sick of stuff like this. If you have a track on a Rhino comp, it's like you're automatically in some sort of imagined canon. There's definitely good stuff on there; it's nice to see higher-ups finally notice that "Human Fly" and US punk post-1979 (Black Flag, X, Fear) exists finally, but it's still a total mess. The Rough Trade Shops 25 Years comp is so much better, mostly because it's relatively oblivious to notions of what's "important" and because it includes some recent stuff. I mean, why not include Rancid, Refused, At the Drive-In, Operation Ivy, Earth Crisis? Or, for that matter, Discharge, Crass, Agent Orange, the Circle Jerks?

Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

A compilation of long-lost punk singles would have been more useful. (Okay - so they put Little Johnny Jewel on it - but their rereleasing that anyway in the fall.)

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I think there IS some sort of lost punk singles series coming out soon. I can't remember whether I read this in Mojo or somewhere or saw it on the web. It might be on Cherry Red. I imagine it will unearth some wretched music but might be worth a laugh. I wish everything the Desperate Bicycles did was available.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"Pretty girls walking with gorillas down my street"

I always preferred the Great Pop Things variant of this:

"Pretty gorillas walking down my street...Nylons! Gum!"

There's this wonderful and weird collection of hyperutterobscuro punk singles I have that was part of a series released in Germany in the early nineties -- stuff from Finland and Yugoslavia and all mixed in with English-language representatives nobody knew about. I think there was even one single from the band that eventually became Minny Pops!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

That 1 2 3 4 collection that came out on EMI-UK a few years back was a lot better, chiefly because it included "Part-Time Punks."

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

It might also have been a nice idea to try to include something by that other band.... what was their name again? Came from London? Sex something?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)


"psycho killer" by the talking heads is such a bland track. or at least after decades of hearing it, it's become bland.

etc etc...
m.

msp, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

These tracklistings seem composed of all the tracks from the excellent Rhino "D.I.Y." series of CDs that were put out in 1993 and then went out of print. Those CDs were better organized, though -- Joe Jackson's track appeared on the "Starry Eyes" best of British Pop CD (alongside the Undertones, XTC, etc.). I wish they'd just re-release those CDs.
Also, I must take exception to the claim that "Psycho Killer" is in any way bland. Watch the opening of "Stop Making Sense"; that performance still gives me goosebumps.

Ben Boyer, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with Truck about the Samoans. After all, "Lights Out" doesn't take up too much room!

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not bad. I might pick it up for the half that I don't own, and it would be nice to keep in the truck with my Gimme Indie Rock CDs (K-Tel should do another one).

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom Briehan otm

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, Breihan

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i think it's amazingly well put together, and love seeing the dictators, magazine, germs, and mekons there. thank god they didn't try to add a disc of more recent stuff. the only real weak spot is the dead kennedys track.

dan (dan), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, the Sex Pistols?

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

When is this supposed to come out?

Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, the Sex Pistols?

Licensing problems, maybe?

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I think this collection is great once you include the fifth disc, which goes something like this:

"Six Pack," Black Flag
"Definitions," Minutemen
"Dicks Hate the Police," The Dicks
"Academy Fight Song," Mission of Burma
"Complicated Fun," Suicide Commandos
"Out of Step (With the World)," Minor Threat
"Heartbeat," Big Boys
"Bob Hope," Appliances-SFB
"Potential Rapist," Naked Raygun
"Feels Blind," Bikini Kill
"Ack Ack Ack," the Urinals
"Waiting Room," Fugazi
"Mobile Home," Couch Flambeau
"Suburban Home," Descendents
"Life Sentence," Dead Kennedys
"Hickley Had a Vision," The Crucifucks
"Pay to Cum," Bad Brains
"The Glory of Man," Minutemen
"Red Tape," Circle Jerks
"Mutiny in Heaven," The Birthday Party
"Foggy Eyes," Beat Happening
"All White," Die Kreuzen
"Halloween," Dead Kennedys
"Unsatisfied," The Replacements
"History Lesson - Part II," Minutemen
"Eight Miles High," Husker Du
"The Shah Sleeps In Lee Harvey's Grave," The Butthole Surfers
"My Red Self," Heavens to Betsy
"Sex Bomb," Flipper

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

No Exploited! Hahahaha! I like this comp.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Or Misfits!

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh. :(

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)

incoherent. too many feeb bands like the cure, etc. really, just too many crappy Brit bands like the Boomtown Rats and Eddie and the Hot Rods. thumbs decidely pointed in the direction of the floor.

Bosse-De-Nage (Bosse-De-Nage), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

too many feeb bands like the cure

I have spotted a problem.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I have spotted a soulmate.

That fifth disc looks pretty great, they should sell it by itself.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

i think i got one on the end of my line. ;-) the bait was swallowed.

Bosse-De-Nage (Bosse-De-Nage), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Indeed, I was right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"Um, the Sex Pistols?"

"Licensing problems, maybe?"

Plenty of other people seem to have managed to get clearance and Rhino are supposed to be the experts at that sort of stuff aren't they?

Mind you they seem to have spent 3 years so far trying to organise a release of Lick My Decals Off Baby and the sodding thing's actually owned by their parent Company, Warners!


Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)

For those who have already got everything on here and are maybe starting to think there can't be much good, original punk still out there that they haven't heard 'though, I humbly but heartily recommend this:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000065SXE.08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

which I picked up from Amazon.fr recently.

All excellent stuff, there are several people here whose back catalogues I suspect I shall be exploring further in due course.

Oh and don't be misled by the inclusion of Plastic Bertrand btw - his contribution is hardly representative!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Bugger - forgot the "i": let's try again:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000065SXE.08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

That's better.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the inclusion of "Eight Miles High" on Disc 5.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

"Um, the Sex Pistols?"

"Licensing problems, maybe?"

Rhino still managed to name the box "Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?"

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Thursday, 31 July 2003 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)

disc six: flipper - 'if i can't be drunk' (74 minute extended remix)

geeta (geeta), Thursday, 31 July 2003 05:42 (twenty-two years ago)

geeta rules

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 31 July 2003 05:57 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Just got it and listened to it all again. It's called No Thanks! The '70s Punk Rebellion. I think it's pretty great, and my complaints aren't probably worth listing. Mainly, I wish, instead of Joe Jackson, they'd really scoured for actual and influential but lesser known punk groups, like the Suicide Commandos in Minneapolis. I also imagine the absence of the Pistols and P.I.L. is a liscencing gaff, but still, it's a big hole in the center. The liner notes aren't great, either. Hmmm, maybe my complaints are worth listing...

Probably my first, and overwhelming, reaction is how much infinitely greater punk got from 1980 onward...

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently John Lydon threatened Rhino with legal action over their original proposed title "Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?".

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Should also point out that the point of the Rhino set is to cover punk as it was perceived in '77-'78--virtually everything is from earlier than '79 ("Love Will Tear Us Apart" is an anomaly). I mean, I'd love to see that Disc 5 too, but it's not stuff that was excluded, if you see what I mean. Angry Samoans didn't put out their first record until 1980, I think.

My list of bands that fell within the mandate of the box and didn't show up on it:
Adam & the Ants
Angelic Upstarts
Cabaret Voltaire
Chelsea
Wayne County
Crass
Eater
Feelies
Glaxo Babies
Kleenex
Menace
Metal Urbain
The Monochrome Set
Tubeway Army/Gary Numan
Plastic Bertrand
The Police
Radiators from Space
Scritti Politti
SEX PISTOLS
Skrewdriver
Slaughter & the Dogs
Sniveling Shits
Spizz
Swell Maps
Throbbing Gristle
UK Subs
TV Personalities
XTC

Of those, I'd have loved to have seen, say, the first Police single ("Fall Out"), maybe something like Menace's "G.L.C.," of course I fetishize Swell Maps, etc. But, really, the Rhino box gives a satisfying roar when you actually put it on.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Interestingly, there was a 1977 Dutch compilation called "Geef Voor New Wave" that included e.g. the Pistols, X-Ray Spex, the Adverts, Generation X, Jonathan Richman, etc., but also the Dwight Twilly Band and Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers...

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Douglas, I do remember hearing it rumoured at that time that the label responsible for that comp had inadvertently licensed a track by the wrong Heartbreakers.

Perhaps no stranger that the Vertigo comp. "New Wave" around the same time which included tracks by Flaming Groovies, Runaways, Skyhooks and Little Bob Storey alongside the more obvious Damned, Dead Boys, Richard Hell & The Voidoids, NY Dolls, Ramones, Patti Smith, Talking Heads and.... errrrr.... Boomtown Rats.

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA015644/img/NewwaveLP.jpg

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha - 'New Wave' is a great album. What's wrong with 'Looking After No.1"? Little Bob Story are fairly rank though.

Could I just say how much I love 'Shake Some Action'.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Hang on, is that the "New Wave" album cover that Julian Cope mentions in "Repossessed" that his ex-manager Cally formulated and featured on the sleeve? It sure as hell looks like it.

Rob M (Rob M), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

no electric eels :(

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

no electric eels is a plus point.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I would add, to your list, the Suicide Commandos. I composed the above 5th disc before I knew this was a "'70s punk" set. I think, besides the gaping hole left by the Pistols, it's pretty great, despite a lot of obligatory inclusions, and again, despite the fact that punk got so much better after it was officially dead in London.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

i can't wait for the rhino nu-metal comp myself.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

You know, I think this is a pretty good comp. How old are you guys? I'm 42 and when this shit first hit it was all mixed up just like this comp. We thought Joe Jackson was punk the same as the Ramones were punk. There was no definition. It was new, clever and said the things that teenagers felt. There was no ethos. It was just "fuck the dinosaurs, let's have something new, then."

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Thursday, 30 October 2003 07:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I want a good Rhino indie-rock comp (similar to K-Tel "Gimme Indie Rock" discs). Seems like that would be fertile territory to mine for songs that are out-of-print on CD.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 30 October 2003 08:13 (twenty-two years ago)

And if your attacking the Joe Jackson why not lump Nick Lowe in there as well?

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Thursday, 30 October 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.blindyouth.freeuk.com/MutantPop.jpg
$1 at a Salvation Army in Pennsylvania.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 30 October 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't recognise that one Chris (and I thought I had, or was at least familiar with, everything that came out on Fast Product!) what's on it?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Arrrrghhh!! I love that album!!! Did Jon S0l0m0n put you onto this!??!?

Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

It's the US edition of The First Year Plan, on PVC (who also put out The Cure's Boys Don't Cry comp). The design alterations are understandable:

http://www.blindyouth.freeuk.com/1stYear.jpg

Apart from "Being Boiled" and "Where Were You?", none of this material's been released, although "Holdings AV" that's been talking shit about reissuing it (as Mutant Pop) this year.

THE MEKONS Never Been In A Riot
THE MEKONS Heart And Soul
THE MEKONS 32 Weeks
SCARS Adult/ery
SCARS Horror Show
THE HUMAN LEAGUE Being Boiled
THE HUMAN LEAGUE Circus Of Death

2.3 All Time Low
2.3 Where To Now
GANG OF FOUR Love Like Anthrax
GANG OF FOUR Armalite Rifle
GANG OF FOUR Damaged Goods
THE MEKONS I'll Have To Dance Then [On My Own]
THE MEKONS Where Were You

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

$1 at a Salvation Army in Pennsylvania.

ooh you lucky son of a...

geeta (geeta), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I threw it away when I found out Xgau was backing it.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

of no particular note, other than he was once my boss, but the box is reviewed here (scroll down) by Clinton speechwriter M*chael W*ldman

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 14 November 2003 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
i believe this has been asked before, but I'm listening to this box set right now.....and why on earth are Joe Jackson' "Is She Really Going Out with Him?" and the Cure's "Boys Don't Cry" on this thing?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Speedy Gonzales was OTM about this above Alex: ".... when this shit first hit it was all mixed up just like this comp. We thought Joe Jackson was punk the same as the Ramones were punk. There was no definition. It was new, clever and said the things that teenagers felt. There was no ethos. It was just "fuck the dinosaurs, let's have something new, then.""

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 4 December 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

haha rhino could have saved a lot of money by asking mark s to compile this set: it would consist of "gary gilmore's eyes" by the adverts AND NOTHING ELSE!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 4 December 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)


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