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Anyone else see this? (I guess it's not exactly in wide release.) I thought it was pretty ridiculous, self-indulgent, and "bad" in many ways (though not in every way)... But I enjoyed the Dylan stuff, the jokes, the music (can't wait to get the soundtrack), etc. And I love the fact that Dylan would make and release such a whacked-out movie - even after, y'know, "all these years." He's still his own dog!

I wouldn't recommend it to most people; but for Dylan fans, there's plenty to laugh at/along with.

Sam J. (samjeff), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Ebert & Roeper say: arguably the worst movie in the last 15 years. Their show is pretty good too, lots of arguing.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm. They'd definitely get an argument from me on that. (Just last year, for instance, there was "Punch Drunk Love," which I thought was even MORE self-indulgent, with NO redeeming qualities.)

Sam J. (samjeff), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Could it really, honestly be the absolute WORST movie of the last 15 years? No fucking way. There's gotta be worse stuff out there. Worst movie of the last 15 years sounds like extreme hyperbole to me. Haven't seen the movie, but I feel like people use phrases like that recklessly.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought the dialogue pretty terrible and it lacked structure as a traditional narrative film...BUT at the same time the individual performances were good (some great, i.e. goodman). each individual role was interesting / well played but as an ensemble it just wasn't cohesive.

the sections where dylan and his band played were great. some good new songs.

i got a kick out of dylan's acting, even if the part was pretty contrived. fun to hear him pontificate as his pseudo-self.

marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

OT, re: Ebert & Roeper, rebutting Ebert's thumbs-up review for the Tomb Rader sequel, Roeper accuses him of being "smitten" with Angelina Jolie -- to which Ebert replies, "what's wrong with that?" Again, their show is pretty good.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved the part where Dylan said to Penelope Cruz, "It's rooster time," and when she said, "What?" he pulled out his dick and said, "Cock-a-doodle-doo!"

TMFTML (TMFTML), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

(Just last year, for instance, there was "Punch Drunk Love," which I thought was even MORE self-indulgent, with NO redeeming qualities.)

Is no one going to jump on this ridiculous statement? Why do I always have to be the bad guy?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I also thought it did a good job of creating a really disturbing atmosphere. Not hard, I guess, when you're dealing with subject matter like that (death squads/dictators/armed rebels/poverty/desperation, etc.) - but for a movie that's built around terrible, and specific, real-life scenarios, yet isn't really a "political" movie, I think it did a good job of walking a certain line. (That is, I think it was complex enough to avoid "trivializing" the stuff it draws from - which I was kind of worried about, going in.)

Sam J. (samjeff), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

>> (Just last year, for instance, there was "Punch Drunk Love," which >> I thought was even MORE self-indulgent, with NO redeeming
>> qualities.)

> Is no one going to jump on this ridiculous statement? Why do I >always have to be the bad guy?

Agreed, "Punch-Drunk Love" was one of the BEST movies of the last 15 years.

Adam Harrison-Friday, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

usually i cant stand adam sandler or whatshisfacemagnoliadirector, but i did like punkdrunklove. definitely not one of the worst movies.

as for bobs movie -- sounds like the cinematic tarantula II. besides, bob gave up the ghost a long long long time a go. he's been running on empty since the seventies.

Bosse-De-Nage (Bosse-De-Nage), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

Wait, Mickey Rourke plays the president in this?

Maybe this deserves a re-evaluation.

litcofsky, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 07:36 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

should I watch this y/n

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 April 2015 21:27 (eleven years ago)

y

tylerw, Thursday, 30 April 2015 21:34 (eleven years ago)

it looks too ridiculous to not be fun

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 April 2015 22:21 (eleven years ago)

i mean, i'm not gonna make any crazy claims for it, but if you're in the mood for a weird dylan experience, it'll do the trick.

tylerw, Thursday, 30 April 2015 22:29 (eleven years ago)

find it hilarious that Larry Charles' filmography is basically this + Borat

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 April 2015 22:34 (eleven years ago)

Kind of endearingly terrible, but worth seeing for the performance footage and Dylan's delivery of "Ever heard of cellulose? It’s in the grass.... Cows can digest it, but you can’t. ...And neither can I." It's also more concise than Ranaldo & Clara!

one way street, Thursday, 30 April 2015 22:47 (eleven years ago)

*Renaldo & Clara, that is....

one way street, Thursday, 30 April 2015 22:48 (eleven years ago)

sort of feel like a dylan commentary track might be make M&A better actually. just where he's rambling about the civil war or something.

tylerw, Thursday, 30 April 2015 22:52 (eleven years ago)

John Goodman is so good in this.

cwkiii, Thursday, 30 April 2015 23:18 (eleven years ago)

I always thought this movie was like a lot of Dylan's peak songwriting - overblown, self-mythologizing, highly entertaining if you're into the aesthetic but probably impenetrable and infuriating if you're not. Genius and crap self-consciously coexisting, lots of portentous red herrings to keep stoned armchair critics busy. I want to make claims that it's "structurally" the same as a song like "Desolation Row" but that'd be pushing it.

So yeah, classic.

hardcore dilettante, Monday, 11 May 2015 03:39 (eleven years ago)

"Endearingly terrible" just about nails it. The band performances are amazing. I can't believe that the out takes haven't been bootlegged! Apparently they recorded like 20 songs for this.

hardcore dilettante, Monday, 11 May 2015 03:41 (eleven years ago)

The making-of featurette on the DVD is hilarious, everyone is trying to avoid saying outright that they have no clue what the fuck this movie was about or who their characters even were.

JoeStork, Monday, 11 May 2015 03:52 (eleven years ago)

nine years pass...

I just found Ebert's review:

That Dylan still exerts a mystical appeal, there can be no doubt. When “Masked and Anonymous” premiered at Sundance 2003, there was a standing ovation when the poet entered the room. People continued to stand during the film, in order to leave, and the auditorium was half empty when the closing credits played to thoughtful silence. One of the more poignant moments in Sundance history then followed, as director Larry Charles stood on the stage with various cast members, asking for questions and then asking, “Aren’t there any questions?”

bratwurst autumn (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 August 2024 23:32 (one year ago)

Somewhere, maybe one of his Mikal Gilmore interviews for Rolling Stone, Dylan said Cate Blanchett should have played him in this too: "I had no business being up there," think was the exact quote.

dow, Thursday, 29 August 2024 00:08 (one year ago)

Never have seen all of it, but what I heard of the newly-released soundtrack---bouncing around a mostly glass CD store---was amazing.

dow, Thursday, 29 August 2024 00:10 (one year ago)

just saw that Tinashe is in this??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGkANKAOiy0

jaymc, Thursday, 29 August 2024 00:22 (one year ago)

Although she was uncredited in the poorly received Masked and Anonymous, Roger Ebert observed at the film's 2003 Sundance Film Festival premiere "the one performer in the movie whose performance actually was applauded; that was a young black girl named Tinashe Kachingwe, who sings 'The Times They Are A-Changin'' with such sweetness and conviction that she is like a master class." He concluded his review of the movie: "If I had been asked to serve as consultant on this picture, my advice would have amounted to three words: more Tinashe Kachingwe."[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinashe

dow, Thursday, 29 August 2024 00:54 (one year ago)

awesome

jaymc, Thursday, 29 August 2024 01:06 (one year ago)

That band with Larry Campbell and Charlie Sexton was such hot shit.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 29 August 2024 01:07 (one year ago)

On the DVD commentary Larry Charles says that they filmed and recorded 20 songs of that band for the movie. There’s been a lot of fan hope that it will be released as a Bootleg Series.

bbq, Thursday, 29 August 2024 02:41 (one year ago)

Man, if they wanted to break some brains they could do a combo set of the Pat Garrett outtakes (have those gotten an official release? I lose track) and that Masked & Anonymous stuff for a Like Dylan At The Movies collection.

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 August 2024 03:53 (one year ago)

Albums That Never Were presented a plausible Renaldo and Clara soundtrack---and of course the Wizard always explains why he picked each version and what he did to make the whole thing cohesive, usually just adjusting volume levels etc---keeps getting notices for all his stuff, but you might well find a working link way down in the comments.

dow, Thursday, 29 August 2024 04:06 (one year ago)

I’m dying for the entire M&A sessions to be released — the 4(?) songs on the soundtrack are such a tease. That Cold Irons Bound is maybe my fave Dylan performance ever.

I love this movie — it’s like a 2-hour Visions of Johanna: faux-profound, funny, half come-on, half put-on, and strangely moving. Maybe the most Dylan thing Dylan ever did really.

dentist looking too comfortable singing the blues (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 29 August 2024 04:14 (one year ago)


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