New Chemical Brothers single featuring Wayne Coyne (yes I know)

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I met them at Glastonbury, they seemed very nice. They probably got me into dance music in the early days. They were fantastic anytime I've seen them live.

But eh.........well I'm not 100 percent on this really. Give it time maybe. It's a bit like Where The Streets Have No Name, or a twee New Order song.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 31 July 2003 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

ha - your description actually makes me more interested in hearing this

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 31 July 2003 06:55 (twenty-two years ago)

as opposed to what, all the tough New Order songs?

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 31 July 2003 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

duh, "world in motion"

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 31 July 2003 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

well yeah Matos but Wayne Coyne is far more twee than Bernard Sumner will ever be.

I wish they'd leave the collaborations behind, it just sounds like all the others, fairly slickly produced rock with a big hippy part.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 31 July 2003 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

before the last album I liked the collabs

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 31 July 2003 07:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The Beth Orton track on the last album was fantastic, but the Richard Ashcroft track was dire.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 31 July 2003 07:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Here it here.

JoB (JoB), Thursday, 31 July 2003 07:48 (twenty-two years ago)

It's got a Ewan Pearson remix! All will be well!

JoB (JoB), Thursday, 31 July 2003 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)

And my boy Dexter is on the cut!

JoB (JoB), Thursday, 31 July 2003 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Anything Wayne Coyne touches turns to pure gold, so...

Evan (Evan), Thursday, 31 July 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

OK this time they've gone too far.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 31 July 2003 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not as good as that Basement Jaxx/Stuart Murdoch collaboration.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 31 July 2003 09:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i just had to do a serious think about whether 'Come With Us' came out this year or last year - what the hell is wrong with me??

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 31 July 2003 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"It's not as good as that Basement Jaxx/Stuart Murdoch collaboration."

Okay, this *is* a joke isn't it?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 31 July 2003 09:31 (twenty-two years ago)

"OK this time they've gone too far.

-- Tom (freakytrigge...), July 31st, 2003. (later)"

lol
pretty much what i was thinking
(and i suspect i might like some of the flaming lips stuff,i want to hear zaireeka or whatever its called...)
i liked the collaborations on dig your own hole and even the one after,but its gone a bit far

robin (robin), Thursday, 31 July 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)


Tis a silly song. It sounds like it heading to a punchline, but then you realise it's not a joke. Musically too its a bit daft. Where are the fonky beats?

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Thursday, 31 July 2003 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

daft + silly i'd go with that.

piscesboy, Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Would the Chemical Bros be able to make albums without collaborations, though? I mean, that would get boring.

scott m (mcd), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes but collaborations with somebody other than floaty-voiced indie stars would at least show a bit of willing eh?

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, good point!

scott m (mcd), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Richard X is how to do it

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the Plump DJs/Gary Numan one

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Ludacris over a Chem Bros. beat, hm...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean even within 'indie' the Chemicals have only really picked 3 types of singer.

- burnt-out folky chick (Sandoval, Orton)
- drug-damaged high voice dude (Donahue, Coyne)
- big-vowelled salt-of-the-earth Britrocker (Gallagher, Ashcroft, Tim Charlatan)

I am not a massive fan of the genre these days but I know it's a broader vocal church than this!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

the Chems were supposed to be doing something with Eve, and Outkast

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 31 July 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

- drug-damaged high voice dude (Donahue, Coyne)

Tom, have you heard the song? FWIW, Coyne doesn't use his 'high' affected voice, he uses what I suppose is his 'natural' voice (as heard on that Okie Noodling thing for anyone familiar with that). So I suppose it's more drug-damaged salt-of-the-earth folky.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to say that the title of this thread is wonderful. I haven't heard the song yet.

Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Coyne doesn't use his 'high' affected voice

...for most of the song anyway.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

coyne sounds kinda like cash, and i agree with ronan's comment that it sounds like where the streets have no name.

samuel, Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i bet the remixes are worth hearing.

so wayne coyne is from the flaming lips?

disco stu (disco stu), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The forthcoming Best Of has a collaboration with someone called K-Os. Any idea who/what this is likely to involve?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i just had to do a serious think about whether 'Come With Us' came out this year or last year - what the hell is wrong with me??

Uh, it came out in 2001. Or is that what you meant?

K-Os keep sending me emails about their web-only (I think) MP3 releases etc. I'll dig out the URL, I seem to remember some pretty fine crunchy electro stuff.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 31 July 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

You mean K-os the MC from Toronto? I think his stuff is on Astralwerks so that might make sense?

scott m (mcd), Thursday, 31 July 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

This song reminds me of REM's "Voice of Harold".

I am very happy that Wayne, here, doesn't use his trademark fingernails-on-a-chalkboard falsetto.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Bit of a souped-up "Love Vigilantes" really, isn't it? I will persevere with it but as yet it doesn't strike me as a particularly stunning piece of work, certainly not comparable with the golden days of "Song To The Siren" etc.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Marcello! How are you doing, sir?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 July 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Och, not too bad Ned...don't really get the opportunity to come round here much these days (except to lurk very quickly) - ultra-busy with work, busy also turning CoM into manuscript/book form, looking for a decent agent, etc. - but I do still put my head round the door every now and then to see how y'all are doing :-)

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 31 July 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

It is well to hear. And if you get a good agent, let me know. ;-) I do hope to meet up with yer in October if possible.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 July 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

uh, this is Echo & the Bunnymen, surely.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 31 July 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I was wondering where that pop-beat stuff on Yoshimi was heading. Still, I thought this was going to be some bonkers seven-minute "Private Psychedelic Reel" spaz-out instead of "Surrender" meets "Hoops". And I prefer the much-hated falsetto to the voice Wayne uses for the most part here, which is like a cross between Beck and Bono (Bonko?) -- two voices I'm used to separately but unnerve me when melded this way.

Who wrote the lyrics? They're a bit clumsy.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 31 July 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

(That said, this is more of an "I will get used to this" thing than an "OH GOD NO PUSH THEM OFF A 5TH FLOOR BALCONY NOW" thing.)

(Tangentially, I'm pissed that "Music: Response" is not going to be on the 93-03 singles comp.)

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 31 July 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

what?!!!

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 31 July 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

blount I'm still getting past your new ID. I think it's a shite enough song really, they are good producers, not good at producing.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 31 July 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

this shit is about as forward-thinking and unpredictable as "the test."

samuel, Friday, 1 August 2003 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

(Thank you soooo much, computer. I can't listen to it yet.)

For a non-indie singing Chemical collab, check 'Not Another Drugstore'. Possibly their best b-side, not least because it features some of Justin Warfield's best rapping, ace effects, a truly funky beat, fun references to lots of their past work (lyrically and musically) and, more importantly, is the first track they've done/released with a rapper (without the use of Fatboy-style helium shit too), a fact they seemed to forget themselves in last month's Jockey Slag and worse, stick the dodgy remix from the mix CD on the best of. As good a move as leaving off 'Music: Response' and Dave Clarke's 'Chemical Beats' remix.

Barima (Barima), Friday, 1 August 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

don't forget Kool Herc's cameo on 'Elektrobank', and i like the vocals on the 'Come With Us' track, is that K-Os?

stevem (blueski), Friday, 1 August 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Keith Murray's freestyle sample on 'Elektrobank' really makes the track, though the Dust Brother's remix (yet another wrong omission but I guess I'm compulsive like that) made some cool bridges out of Herc's intro (on the other hand, I kinda feel he provides one of the best song intros evah).

Barima (Barima), Friday, 1 August 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

so wayne coyne is from the flaming lips?

It's actually The Chemical Brothers featuring the Flaming Lips.

JoB (JoB), Friday, 1 August 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Coyne on this track, just because it seems a little different for him. Something about him without the falsetto reminds me of, uhm, Neil Young.

that said, the track itself is just... I'm still trying to figure out if it's a joke or not? What the hell is up with that twee flute playing?? Also the highlighting of each line with hilarious studio effects - "he pointed to the graveyard..." *church bell rings*, "and I was confronted by a powerful demon force" HUGE POINTLESS WHOOSHING SOUND and so on.

Adrian (Adrian Langston), Friday, 1 August 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Anything Wayne Coyne touches turns to pure gold, so...

i was laughing so hard at this i had to take the cock out of my mouth

chaki (chaki), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Jockey Slag wet themselves over it this month.

Barima (Barima), Saturday, 2 August 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I have to say I was harsh on our own steady opinionist Dave Stelfox, jockey slut is truly crap in terms of writing.

Who would bet against a mag run by bugged out bigging up the chems for god knows what

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 August 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Does ILX generally hate on the Chems? I'm still totally behind the first 3 albums.

I do have to say the sirens went off when someone on that page cliche-claimed 'The Golden Path' is "the best thing they've ever done". I mean, spare me, and I haven't even heard it yet and geez, Wayne Coyne is the singer and this type of collab went wonky 'round 'Dream On' and sucked by 'The Test' (they really let Ashcroft's mediocrity drag them down that time).

The Rapture review was going okay too, until they ended it with that stupid phrase they've named their CD series and they used the opinion of a member of Fopp records like they matter. The controversy of placing a negative opinion on the album of the month page was undone by the girl whining about 'overhype' and 'punk-funk pish' in a way that makes one want to listen to it to make sure she's wrong.

Barima (Barima), Saturday, 2 August 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Justin Robertson said so!!!!1 Shocking.


Also Jockey Slut call any dance music with a nice bassline "punkfunk" now aka "rock". It's a pisser. The new Chems is about as DFA as having a shave.

The B-side to this "nude night" seems ten times better.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 August 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I was flipping through the latest edition of Muzik to arrive here (the one w/ the French House mix - but the CD was missing so I didn't buy it) and I got so sad 'cos it was utterly brilliant.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 4 August 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronan-I knew the Slut were wrong (in general) when their piece on pre-Invincible Michael Jackson contained a needless overabuse of the word 'corporate'. Now it's 'punks in pumps'. Weirdos.

I feel for you, Tim. That CD reminds me what a loser I am for not buying Daft Punk's 'Mothership Reconnection' remix. I have a talent for not buying great records on sight. Hope you score a proper copy soon.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I meant the magazine itself Barima, although I'm sure the CD is pretty great too.

My point was more that Muzik seems (seemed) to be getting better with every issue, while Jockey Slut is stuck in a cul-de-sac.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 4 August 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Totally agree with Tim, Muzik is funny when it tries to be (a first?) and also the design changes were wicked, not to mention the free cd being classic every month.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 4 August 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I still haven't fully put down the last 2 Muzik issues, makes it sadder that it's ending when everything about it is what JS wishes it could be, especially with reviews, subject matter etc. JS is good for late reads about people I didn't get the 1st time (hadn't bothered reading a Soulwax interview before).

Any CD that makes my close-minded brother (last 2-years d'n'b only, this year hip hop/50 Cent only, next year garage only, probably) go "what is this shit?" in mondo annoyed tones is classic, Tim, it makes my house love all the more worth it.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

JS described 'Digital Love' as Daft Punk's 'Together In Electric Dreams', which sounded like damning 'DL' with faint praise. The review also lost points for an r'n'b reference that only seemed to want to tie into the same issue's pro-r'n'b article (surely the basis for the new Pitchfork article).

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

That Mothership Connection remix is shockingly good yes.

The B-side to the Wayne Coyne tragedy is called Nude Night and is pretty acidy and quite good.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 4 August 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

the new chemical brothers track sounds like ......"The Postal Service"

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Chemical b-sides are reliably good-great, esp. the 'Dig Your Own Hole' era ('Drugstore', 'Morning Lemon', 'Buzz Tracks', 'These Beats Are Made For Breaking' and the Dust Bros and Micronauts remixes) and the stripped-down 'Sunshine Underground' version on 'Let Forever Be'. 'Base 6' was OK too.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Judging from those five samples on their site, it's nothing special indeed - even Ewan Pearson doesn't appear to be able to save it.

I never really understood all the hype for Chemical Brothers, it always looked like some sort of conspiracy of UK dance mags. The debut was unbearably boring (esp compared to all those other & better big beat producers at the time) and Dig Your Own Hole also had one good single & tons of filler. They've become as boring and devoid of fun as Dirty Vegas and Groove Armada by now. As far as ex-big beat celebrities surviving on lots of collabs go, give me Junkie XL over them any day.

Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 4 August 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The new Chems is about as DFA as having a shave.

Quote of the month

stevem (blueski), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Yowch, Siegbran.

Their hype has a lot to do with their DJing in the beginning and their early shit was very energetic for the most part-they had this knack for crossing ambient and rave with the Bomb Squad. Their mix CD for Heavenly is super-inspired and I've loved it for years and their pop sense is very good-check that story about Chris Evans trying to play soon-to-be no.1 'Setting Sun' at 6am and withdrawing it in late '96. 'Boring' is also one of the oddest words to describe the debut (okay, it doesn't do anything for you, but it's hardly a background record), even tho' it hasn't aged totally well. Also, who were their peers at the time other than Fatboy and the uninteresting (better than 'boring'?) element of Wall of Sound?

Barima (Barima), Monday, 4 August 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

It's driving me crazy that nobody is talking about how this sounds exactly like Echo & The Bunnymen, specifically the verse part of "Lips Like Sugar"!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 4 August 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(Heh, i agree, Spencer. Then again, the Lips are pretty out about being Bunnymen fanatics, so it's not TOO surprising...)

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 4 August 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks db, you have calmed me.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 4 August 2003 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

As is Wayne Coyne! (As the Echo box set intro reveals.) COINCEDENCE?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 August 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"JS described 'Digital Love' as Daft Punk's 'Together In Electric Dreams', which sounded like damning 'DL' with faint praise."

That's not faint praise in my book! But the point stands.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Other thing worth mentioning was that ver Slut's positive review was about to fly in the face of all the others that hadn't quite fulfilled their use of the word 'irony' quota since Beck's last upbeat albums. And it was actually as good as yours.

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)


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