The future of Stereolab

part of the problem is not being able to sort threads by ‘most recently posted to’ when you do a search

You can also just scan the New Answers page before posting, to see if a similar thread was recently revived.

half the people on ILM don't even bother scanning the thread before posting so i don't think that's gonna happen

My idiot racist uncle whose views on everything I deplore seems to still have no problem loving Neil Young, Springsteen, and Tom Waits, I guess that's the only admirable thing about him.

This is an interesting thing — like Chris Christie being a big Springsteen fan.

springsteen probably has a better case for being a marxist artist than stereolab

"I have never, not once, heard Jordan Peterson referenced outside of ILX,"

must be nice!!

xp to katherine--no argument. It's just the 'wanting blood' part that bothers me. The discovery of this Sadier tweet--from February--required, what, five thread revives? It's important to remember that this compulsory hair trigger call-out stuff is a relatively new phenomenon and a lot of olds like me are going to struggle with it. It was always known that a ton of artists, directors, authors were pricks and did and / or believed strange and even troubling things, but we reserved the boycotts for people who actually committed atrocious and disgusting acts of violence or sexual abuse, not for everyone to the right of antifa

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, August 7, 2018 9:20 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in fairness 99.9% of the world's population has been boycotting Stereolab's music for decades

must be nice!!

it is! I live in a bubble.

I mean, ILX is my only "social media" and nothing else I regularly read (WaPo, local news, politico, um comics blogs) has never mentioned this jackass.

*ever* mentioned

in just the past 24 hours:

https://s22.postimg.cc/4oq3wwosh/image.jpg

I dont' believe Rosie was booted out of Pram, I think she quit, the band kind of quit, then they regrouped without her for whatever reason. Maybe that was part of it, maybe it wasn't.

Paul Ponzi OTM.

About what exactly?

I mean, ILX is my only "social media" and nothing else I regularly read (WaPo, local news, politico, um comics blogs) has never mentioned this jackass.

Umm …

https://www.google.com/search?ei=UtJpW-n4LpC6aZrgsIgJ&q=site%3Awashingtonpost.com+jordan+peterson&oq=site%3Awashingtonpost.com+jordan+peterson

"I have never, not once, heard Jordan Peterson referenced outside of ILX,"

In the last 48 hours I have twice turned on my TV to find Jordan Peterson being interviewed - the same interview on the same channel admittedly but fuck seeing this jackass being interviewed at all.

... on the fucking BBC, no less.

haha

welp I guess I skipped over those

xp

lol like I am going to a) watch broadcast TV or b) watch the BBC

xp

Alba's got me tho, idk how I missed those

one time I saw the person next to me in the coffee shop watching one of his videos

the bbc is bad now, it's like stereolab all over again

I'm not expecting you to watch the BBC obv., just giving an example of how he's not an obscure figure in the slightest. (xxxp)

also many xxxxposts but this

Stereolab + JP both profitably recycling old German ideas

― Ward Fowler, Friday, August 3, 2018 6:32 AM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAFZnvTfFAs

yeah that post justified this entire revival

i really dig WF's dour minimalist style!

I'll grant that he's not obscure, I will also argue it's p easy to avoid this guy or be ignorant of him why because the internet

like, Drake is really really famous. otoh I have never heard an entire Drake song

I think it is also very easy to avoid JP if you are in the US

I would likely not be very aware of JP if I wasn't made aware of him and therefore easily noticed his name in passing, I mean lots of people are out there and we just pass over their names when we see them because we have no context for who they actually are. Also this tweet was from February, which could arguable be in the period before JP became a bit more notorious (on the other hand i've lost all sense for the passing of time, cf Trump was elected almost two years ago now i guess???)

Yeah, exactly as Omar sense - my capacity to gloss over names until I learn about them is vast.

True, and I'll also add that if a person's primary claim to fame is being a colossal shitbag, I don't generally put a lot of effort into learning more about them.

If only Laetitia had said that.

It's hard not to take the political very personally in this era. When you see skint young single parents bringing their skinny kids to the local park for a pauper's picnic, and old friends en route to the church foodbank with that hauntingly defeated look. You need to throw some pelters at some of these cosseted idiots, playing silly bugger roleplay games that will have no bearing on their own comfortable lifestyles.

xp

Or many people ITT, for that matter.

that apology is really depressing. she doesn't owe anyone anything.

I didn’t make that public. I should have done and I am sorry for that.

good lord that is scary

So... she apologized. You all happy now? Can we go back to the lab now?

she built a career off being a left-wing political artist. she might not owe anyone anything, but her career is tied to her politics in a way that wouldn't be true for most artists.

Calzino's thing, AIUI:

https://img.cdandlp.com/2013/12/imgL/116409235.jpg

Her apology is a bit weird though? She rarely tweets and she cosigned him without knowing anything about him? It takes one click and a minute. Also she apologized like 6 months after the incident?

Amazing that people think that Stereolab are like Billy Bragg with keyboards.

I thought you wanted to back to the lab? (xp)

... go back, that is.

i still can't get over the idea of "libertarian marxists"

guess i'm relieved laetitia was only tangentially involved w/ mccarthy

Her apology is a bit weird though? She rarely tweets and she cosigned him without knowing anything about him? It takes one click and a minute. Also she apologized like 6 months after the incident?

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 2:24 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

to be fair people only complained 6 months after the incident

because it's a reply tweet, for anyone not on twitter any tweet that begins with an "@" does not show up in peoples' timelines, you have to look in a person's replies. that's why I don't understand how she would have gone about making her "changing views" public. no one was upset, no one knew about the tweet, then she comes out and says "hey, this peterson guy, oh boy, definitely dig him, not this stuff though" - no one would ever do that, and people would still be pissed off.

I'd be more inclined just to use it on myself these days, Tim!

it's also easy to forget how bad a lot of (often otherwise intelligent) people are at the internet. especially social media. and especially if they weren't raised on it.

https://d2ymzkn1ailq93.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/old-lady-using-computer-snapmunk.jpg

is this "I've never even heard of this bloody Oscar Peterson/Goebbels/Antonescu/Petain limey before " feint, more annoying than "I don't even own a TV" ? y/n.

I do not, in fact, own Jordan Peterson's TV