24 Hour Part People / A Certain Ratio's later venture into latin funk

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In the movie, ACR play some really cheesy Latin funk stylings to a near-empty Hacienda. Geez, did ACR really end up sounding THAT bad? Or was it just the movie and the context?

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:05 (twenty years ago) link

they did sound like that for a bit, yes, but it wasn't as bad as the movie makes out. "skipscada" is pretty groovy really

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:11 (twenty years ago) link

they did a decent cover of "shackup" too.

― jed_e_3 (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

i remember that first shit record (the one after sextet?) had a little warning: "not recommended for those with limited thrill thresholds" or some such twaddle. it was the driest tightest dullest cod funk i'd ever heard

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

Skipscada, the track in the film, is excellent. It was chosen to be on Palatine, the Factory box set so it must have been pretty highly regarded by all concerned. Like Jim implies, the film just hammed it up a bit make the scene funnier.

― Johnny Jarvis, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 06:53 (twenty years ago) link

However they kinda ruined it by having Tony and his mates refer to it as "jazz" which just left me deeply puzzled

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 06:56 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, it is a bit odd.
BTW it's freaky how accurate in that film Rob Gretton is. Anyone who's seen the New Order story (Paul Morely fronted documentary) will know what I mean. I think it's Paddy Considine. He's EXACTLY like the real Rob Gretton (RIP).

― Johnny Jarvis, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 08:35 (twenty years ago) link

I loved Coggan's depiction of Tony Wilson. No idea if it's accurate, but as a piece of acting in and of itself, it was very funny and very warm.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

Coggan = Coogan.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

it's horribly accurate alas!

― jed_e_3 (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link

I so want to see 24PP again and again and again.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:52 (twenty years ago) link

they should have included Northside in the story for a laugh

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

Somehow fifteen minutes of film about how Northside insisted Moz wanted them as a support act wasn't going to fly, I think.

Considine as Gretton = incredible.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

is there any video footage of the real Martin Hannett? i'd love to see what the real dude was like

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

What photos I've seen of him show he was a notably slimmer feller (before the end bloat as seen in the film) than Andy Serkis, though the general mop of hair is accurate. But either Peter Hook or someone else on one of the commentaries on the DVD does an imitation of what Hannett sounded like and apparently Serkis nailed it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 00:31 (twenty years ago) link

That scene was exaggerated for comic effect. Pretty unlikely also for Gretton to have been slagging off ACR in that scene.

There's one quote from Hannett in the film when he's recording Joy Division and says to them, "Play it faster but slower" I always thought was supposed to be something he said to ACR, not JD.

― steve, Wednesday, 3 September 2003 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

apparently he said it to more than one band, including ACR.. but i can't remember my source on that :(

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 03:11 (twenty years ago) link

More Hannett trivia... towards the end of his career, Hannett was indeed wheeled onstage at a gig in a supermarket trolley, but it wasn't the Happy Mondays... was some other band he was working with. Read this somewhere recently, might have been the Mick Middles book.

― steve, Wednesday, 3 September 2003 04:24 (twenty years ago) link

'twas New Fast Automatic Daffodils

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 04:43 (twenty years ago) link

Yep, that sounds like that one...!

― steve, Wednesday, 3 September 2003 04:51 (twenty years ago) link

Or the 'Faddies, as they were called, by no-one at all.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 04:53 (twenty years ago) link

There might be footage of M.Hannett onstage with the Invisible Gurls (Backing JCC or P.Murray).

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 5 September 2003 07:47 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, here's a hilarious bit of New FADs trivia that in fact has to do with 24PP -- when you get the chance, check the scene in the film where Ian Curtis is having a seizure backstage and do a freeze frame or two of the gear boxes. You'll note that they have stencilled on them the words "NEW FADS." Not bad for a band to get its gear sorted out ten years before they started. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:21 (twenty years ago) link

The "real" (their quotes) Anthony Wilson commentary on the DVD is amazing. Correcting bits of the movie's obsessive details (like the one that Ned found), bickering, refuting the "I went to Cambridge University..." bit. I thought it was really neat how all the actual film (like, celluloid) footage of hang-gliding Wilson and all the bands was real, like, shot by Wilson and/or the Granada cameraman. Trivia aside, it's weird how the film had these subtle, sophisticated moments before getting all messy and detached... kinda like the Happy Mondays.

And there's a live version of "Skipscada" on the ACR reish that doesn't sound especially hot with headphone, but if you play it on a stereo, and get facing the speakers... mm mmm.

― E (ebb), Friday, 5 September 2003 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

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