seach & destroy: new material by reunited old bands

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i'm not sure if this explicit topic has been dealt with in this way here before, but i'm going to throw it out there anyway.

i've just been thinking, especially lately, with Fleetwood Mac and Jane's Addiction, etc., not only doing reunion tours, but putting out new albums, whether these kinds of endeavors are always completely wasted effort on the bands' part. I mean, if your glory days are a good decade or two back now, and people still care enough to fill the seats when you do a reunion tour, that's great, and I don't think that indulging the fans' nostalgia or making a quick buck at it are in and of themselves necessarily bad things.

so I guess the thing I wonder if whether it's worth it for a band like that to even try to add something new to their catalog after their previous albums have already been well established in the cannon. I guess pretty much everyone who is in any way past their peak is always thinking about how to mount a comeback. but, say, in the case of a band like Jane's, who had a short run and pretty much went out at the top of their game, that becomes a big part of their legacy, and while making a new album may not detract from the quality of their previous output, it does stand to possibly bring down the property value on that legacy a good bit.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

and but so say whatever you want on the matter, but i'm also posing it as a S&D (remember them days when every other thread was a S&D/Classic or Dud?), because, now that I think of it, I've never been a truly passionate fan about a band that has broken up for a while, and then recorded new material. so I'm not entirely sure how this phenomenon feels to fans, or the track record of bands that do this. are there any cases where a band has come back and made a great album that ends up in the canon alongside the early stuff? are there any serious embarrassments that are kind of worth hearing in a car-wreck way? or is it all just half-assed muck with occasional returns to past glories?

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

KISS: Psycho Circus... I don't believe that needs any explanation, however if you like it, then by all means, Pledge Alliegance to the State of Rock and Rolll...

Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Television - 'Television'

Not as good as Marquee Moon, but as good as Adventure, which is pretty good going really.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked Brave New World more than any Iron Maiden album since Powerslave, probably. It may not have been the best album ever, but shockingly good considering their circumstances. I think the nostalgia/reunion factor did have a lot to do with it, since I noticed in the store that their new one came out yesterday and wasn't really interested.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

The Go Betweens have released two very solid albums since reuniting, Friends of Rachel Worth and Bright Yellow Bright Orange. So, um, search them out.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

What about that new Wire from earlier this year? Good reviews, but I remained suspicious enough not to ty it. Yet. Should I?

mte, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The new Iron Maiden album is really good.

On the other hand, when I saw the Stooges two weeks ago, they played one new song ("Skull Ring," which will be on Iggy's next album, obviously) and it sounded like George Thorogood.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"Ahead" is one of my favorite Wire tracks.

Jeremy (Jeremy), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

What about Steely Dan? Twenty years away from the scene and suddenly they release two albums in swift succession, ones that are pretty damn good at that.

ham on rye (ham on rye), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Wire have already been mentioned (they were the first band that jumped to mind when I saw the question), and also King Crimson (especially the Discipline/Beat/Three of a Perfect Pair era.)

d.w., Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The latest Wire stuff surprised me quite a bit in a very good way.
Live as well, very intense, much more so than the 80s version.
Yea to the Go-Betweens stuff, as well.

peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I enjoyed the recent Soft Boys record quite a bit; although it wasn't mindblowing in any sense, it was interesting, well-written, well-played. Worth the price I paid (new LP) -- and I'm no Robyn Hitchcock obsessive/apologist.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I like both Read & Burn EPs (there wasn't enough non-EP stuff on Send for me to buy it), but live they bored me senseless. My wife dug it, though.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AGWK8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Honestly, I know it sounds like a given coming from me, but it's really better than it has any right to be, all things considered.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

The Breeders' 'Title TK' is very much underrated.

Ben Dot, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Has anyone heard that new Buzzcocks album on Merge?

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Aerosmith to thread

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)

the latest Fleetwood Mac is their best release since "tango" if not better so I consider it a worthwhile exercise

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

and another weigh-in for the GoB's reunion material. i consider "rachel worth" to be their second best album.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Thought the new Buzzcocks was awfully dull, but I REALLY dig the Wire mk. III stuff.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

ESG's STEP OFF, though friends and/or people I admire don't agree. But that doesn't phase me. Who in LA wants them to play a show here? hmmm?

wuperetta, Thursday, 11 September 2003 01:06 (twenty-two years ago)

How's Soft Cell sound these days?

sucka (sucka), Thursday, 11 September 2003 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Not so hot.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 11 September 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

slapp happy's 'ca va' had some drum loops & production that turned me off at first. but then I heard through the production to the songs, a few of which are as lovely as anything they've done and I'm very happy they made it.

jl (Jon L), Thursday, 11 September 2003 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

This would be a great poll: best song by a reunited band. What are some of the better ones?

The Alarm 45 RPM would get my vote.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

Please nuke all of Aerosmith's post-Joe Perry return output.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:16 (sixteen years ago)

"Nothing Lasts Forever" by Echo and the Bunnymen was as good as their old stuff, promised a return to former glories.

Unfortunately, it didn't really happen.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

"Nothing Lasts Forever" by Echo and the Bunnymen was as good as their old stuff

Beg to differ.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:29 (sixteen years ago)

I still go w/Undertones. Not only reunited a gazillion years later, but missing the original (and very integral to band sound) lead singer. Both of their reunion albums are ace.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:33 (sixteen years ago)

Dinosaur Jr and Mission of Burma have done pretty well for themselves lately.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

did people like the pixies' "bam thwok"? I don't think i ever heard it, or if i did, i don't remember what it sounds like.

mizzell, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

slapp happy's 'ca va' had some drum loops & production that turned me off at first. but then I heard through the production to the songs, a few of which are as lovely as anything they've done and I'm very happy they made it

That is my favourite Slapp Happy album. Knocks spots off their earlier records IMHO.

Also, Van der Graaf Generator. Neither of their post-reunion albums matches up to the quality of their '70s work but then again neither does anything else.

anagram, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

Maria by Blondie was a good song.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

'Everybody Finds Out' by Fleetwood Mac is pretty great, as is most of Say You Will though it does miss Christine. I like 'Nothing Lasts Forever' too.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

BAUHAUS

edgar ballin poe (crüt), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:56 (sixteen years ago)

American Music Club's Love Songs for Patriots and The Golden Age are up there with their earlier records.

anagram, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 16:58 (sixteen years ago)

i quite like stone temple pilots' "between the lines."

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

Definitely Bauhaus. Judas Priest's Nostradamus was bloated but had lots of good stuff.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

Tears For Fears - "Everybody Loves A Happy Ending".

Really.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

BAUHAUS

Uhhh. The reunion album was godawful.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry - absolutely loved Go Away White.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

My favorites are still Television s/t, Pere Ubu's The Tenement Year, and the Soft Boys' Nextdoorland. And based on just a couple of hearings, Portishead's Third.

International Harvester Of Eyes (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:59 (sixteen years ago)

agree about AMC's Golden Age. on the fence about Patriots.

akm, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:11 (sixteen years ago)

Search: The E-Street Band's output since reuniting has been good-to-excellent. I agree with earlier posts re. Television, Pere Ubu, Dinosaur Jr., and Mission of Burma. Stooges, way better than I expected. Velvet Underground also surprisingly good. Monks - The recordings I've heard are again better than expected, but not as unfuckwithable as Black Monk Time.

Destroy: Sorry, cannot get behind the Fleetwood Mac love. The Doors - This was just... They can't... I don't know what to say. Original Black Sabbath line-up - I empty my nostril in the direction of this mistake. The Verlaines - I'm not sure they ever officially broke up, but "Pot Boiler" is the first Verlaines release I've disliked. Eagles - Transparently lame financial decision by folks willing to be human jukeboxes.

ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:29 (sixteen years ago)

But shit man, reunited Black Sabbath mk II (aka Heaven And Hell) kicks tons of ass, actually could be my second place answer to this thread behind Television.

International Harvester Of Eyes (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

Stooges, way better than I expected.

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I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

See, this is the problem I have: I do not care for any of the Black Sabbath discs after Never Say Die. I also have never been much of a fan of Ozzy's solo things. Yet, I adore everything up to Ozzy's departure except maybe Technical Ecstasy which is redeemed by the dazzling 'You Won't Change Me.' Go figure. Its me. The problem has to be me, but it seems Sabbath went from a singular original sound clearly under the metal umbrella to a band that tried to be a metal band. A good metal band, but not a creative original one. The reunited Sab Mark 1 had that same problem & also churned up an annoying schlock wave in the process. IMHO, as always...

ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:52 (sixteen years ago)

did people like the pixies' "bam thwok"? I don't think i ever heard it, or if i did, i don't remember what it sounds like.

I loved it, and Ain't That Pretty At All was even better.

Oh boy, Midgard! That's where I'm a Viking! (sic), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:56 (sixteen years ago)

The Lilac Time's Keep Going (their third post-reunion album) is just about as strong as their early output. in fairness the only original members are the two Duffy brothers, so maybe it doesn't really count as a reunited band.

not having a luxury watch is terrible (unregistered), Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:43 (sixteen years ago)

crowded house's reunion album wasn't very good. new one out next month, wonder if it will be better.

akm, Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:21 (sixteen years ago)

And based on just a couple of hearings, Portishead's Third.

they never officially split up did they ?

mark e, Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

Tears For Fears - "Everybody Loves A Happy Ending".

Really.

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, May 5, 2010 10:08 PM (2 days ago)

Seconded. This was a really good album, though I haven't listened to it in at least a couple years.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 May 2010 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

crowded house's reunion album wasn't very good. new one out next month, wonder if it will be better.

the last one was actually the third Neil Finn solo album, he just decided to put it out under the CH name. the new one's going to be the first recorded with the new band lineup.

(having seen them play about ten songs off it back in March, I can confidently predict that it will be fucking boring.)

Oh boy, Midgard! That's where I go Biking! (sic), Friday, 7 May 2010 00:31 (sixteen years ago)

Even the rabid Finngirls at the Frenz Forum seem to be having problems getting worked up over it--posts about it have an odd mixture of bored enthusiasm and mild dread. I've seen live versions of the songs on it on Youtube, and I can also confidently predict that it will be fucking boring.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 7 May 2010 03:42 (sixteen years ago)

it's weird to think that paul hester might have been the critical member of the band. although the two times I saw them live (around woodface) he was actually the most engaging one.

akm, Friday, 7 May 2010 05:13 (sixteen years ago)


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