One out, one in

Take out Serge Gainsbourg for inventing Trip hop

and add the Fall

Julie London
Velvet Underground
Françoise Hardy
Scott Walker
The Fall
David Bowie
Joy Division
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Orbital
Velvet Underground
Françoise Hardy
Scott Walker
The Fall
David Bowie
Joy Division
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Take out Julie London cos I don't know who she is; add Orbital cos they're great.

It's a hard choice but I think the VU have to go - nobody else will bin them and I can't bear listening to them in bustling London, let along on a desert island. I'd replace them with Lata Mangeshkar, who beats most-comers in prolificity (?) so you'd have plenty of variety, and because not much gets me up in the morning better than Bollywood music.

Orbital
Lata Mangeshkar
Françoise Hardy
Scott Walker
The Fall
David Bowie
Joy Division
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Marvin Gaye somehow got accidently removed, so I'm putting him back in to make up ten... oh and I've never heard of Lata Mangeshkar, who he?

Orbital
Lata Mangeshkar
Françoise Hardy
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
The Fall
David Bowie
Joy Division
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Lata Mangeshkar = Asha Bhosle's sister, super-prolific Indian film industry recording artist. She'll be on pretty much any Bollywood compilation you care to mention and Nascente do a nice one-disc best-of too.

NB Nick Southall you should pick up a cheapo Julie London comp, she's fab!

Francoise Hardy, pretty tender in a blissed-out urban context, would be too sirupy on a desert island, so I'd replace her with Joni Mitchell for some jazzy introspective nights on the beach:

Orbital
Lata Mangeshkar
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
The Fall
David Bowie
Joy Division
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Yes, I used to listen to Joy Division when I was 17 too, and I love them dearly, but come on, would you really want to listen to Atrocity Exhibition on a desert island?

Orbital
Lata Mangeshkar
Françoise Hardy
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
The Fall
David Bowie
New Order
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Whoops, that should be:

Orbital
Lata Mangeshkar
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
The Fall
David Bowie
New Order
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

I vote to remove Lata cos I (still) don't know enough about her. I'm voting for Steve Albini to replace her cos he is with me in everything I do (this is a slight exaggeration).

I originally interpreted this as having the actual people on the island, not just their records. Which I think would be a better game. Or is that what you meant?

Hmmm, no I was more thinking of trying to hone down a group of 10 artists (musically) that we can sort of all agree on... or what the fuck it's only a stupid thread! My bosses really need to give me some work to do one of these days...

It now stands:

Orbital
Steve Albini
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
The Fall
David Bowie
New Order
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

"a group of 10 artists (musically) that we can sort of all agree on"

I personally feel confident that we shall quickly reach a unarguable conclusion here.

Remove The Fall because they make rock music, and rock music sucks. Replace them with Duke Ellington, because I've never heard anyone say a bad word about the Duke.

So the list is now like this:

Orbital
Steve Albini
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
Duke Ellington
David Bowie
New Order
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Orbital are a bit boring, aren't they?

Captain Beefheart
Steve Albini
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
Duke Ellington
David Bowie
New Order
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Remove Steve Albini because he fucked up PJ Harvey's Rid Of Me. Replace him with PJ Harvey. (sorry Mencap!)

Captain Beefheart
PJ Harvey
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
Duke Ellington
David Bowie
New Order
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

(Susan I think this is a great thread! I wish I'd thought of it! The desert island music regimen is getting stricter and stricter though!)

I'd remove Bowie for the purely subjective reason that I despise the sound of his voice. Although I'd be tempted to replace him with Orbital again, but I think that's cheating, so I'd replace him with Jean Sibelius... need something really *expansive* for those desert island sunsets (also I'm wondering how long a classical composer would last in this game).

Captain Beefheart
PJ Harvey
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
New Order
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

You know, this list actually is beginning to look like what I might want to laze the days away with on a desert island. I think I'll dump New Order though and add Krafwerk. Same thing only better.

Captain Beefheart
PJ Harvey
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Scott Walker
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Take out Scott Walker, if I am on a tropical island, I wouldn't want to hear songs about Stalin.

Add Professor Longhair, because if I am on a tropical island, I want it to be a party.

Captain Beefheart
PJ Harvey
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Professor Longhair
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Get rid of Kylie for her late-90s career moves (appearing in the Vicar of Dibley? Hosting Top of the Pops?). Replace her with Sammy Davis Jnr, if only because someone reminded me of the "You may be wondering why I asked you here" joke the other day.

Captain Beefheart
PJ Harvey
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Professor Longhair
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Sammy Davis Jnr
Cat Power

Beefheart goes for booting my beloved Orbital; in comes Miles Davis.

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Joni Mitchell
Marvin Gaye
Professor Longhair
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

(x=post w/Dom)

I'm amazed that Cat Power has lasted so long. I mean she's great, but something of the plucky underdog in this company. However she's better than Joni Mitchell, so she can get gone instead. I'm going to throw Lemmy in, just to be a boorish cunt. So:

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Lemmy
Marvin Gaye
Professor Longhair
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

You need some pop on a desert island - and who better to provide the pop than ABBA? Rather meanly I'm going to ditch Cat Power without even knowing her stuff that well, but the only other one I don't know is Professor Longhair and he has a great name.

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Lemmy
Marvin Gaye
Professor Longhair
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Sammy Davis Jr
ABBA

No I've never heard of old Longhair either and I'm pissed off Scott's gone - what to do but go for Jacques Brel...

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Lemmy
Marvin Gaye
Jacques Brel
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Sammy Davis Jr
ABBA

I'm chucking Lemmy out, who needs stuff like that on a desert island? In his place goes Brian Eno, obviously.

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Brian Eno
Marvin Gaye
Professor Longhair
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Kylie Minogue
Cat Power

Bugger, got in too late - ignore me then.

(Professor Longhair: 60s New Orleans piano funk god)

If we keep ABBA on the island, people may feel tempted to start throwing ABBA parties. That I cannot condone. What I can condone, though, is ODB.

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Lemmy
Marvin Gaye
Jacques Brel
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Sammy Davis Jr
ODB

I just split-up with my girlfriend and need to listen to Gillian Welch's "I Dream A Hiway" as I mope. So bye-bye Sammy.

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Lemmy
Marvin Gaye
Jacques Brel
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Gillian Welch
ODB

I need Talk Talk too, so Lemmy goes. As much for being in Hardware (worst film evah) as anything else.

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Jacques Brel
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Gillian Welch
ODB

I remove ODB and replace him with TIMBALAND. This may well be cheating, but it just opens up such a vast pool of material.

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Jacques Brel
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Gillian Welch
Timbaland

Taking Sides: not understanding the words (Jaques Brel) vs understanding the words but not always anything else (Kate Bush)

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Gillian Welch
Timbaland

Timbaland expelled for cheating. In comes Aretha Franklin.

Miles Davis
PJ Harvey
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Jacques Brel
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Gillian Welch
Aretha Franklin

If I was to compile a list of the worst songs ever, Polly Jean's "C'mon Billy" would be a top twenty lock. And, to quote the Sopranos, "You wanna get some Skynyrd"

Miles Davis
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Jacques Brel
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Gillian Welch
Aretha Franklin
Lynyrd Skynyrd

Tori Amos once sang an excerpt from Skynyrd's 'Sweet Home Alabama' on the radio as a joke and even then pissed all over their entire career in one go.

Miles Davis
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Jacques Brel
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Gillian Welch
Aretha Franklin
Tori Amos

if she lasts more than like two posts I will be flabbergasted

in a good way!

If I couldn't get Kate Bush in last time I damn well will this time. But I'll spare a flamewar with The Lex and kick out Jacques (again) not Tori.

Miles Davis
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Kraftwerk
Gillian Welch
Aretha Franklin
Tori Amos

I always thought Kraftwerk were boring arse, but I love Can.

Miles Davis
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Can
Gillian Welch
Aretha Franklin
Tori Amos

No one needs Kate Bush AND Tori Amos on a desert island. Tori is axed, replaced by Thomas Bangalter. I want to watch the sunrise listening to French filterdisco.

Miles Davis
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Can
Gillian Welch
Aretha Franklin
Thomas Bangalter

I know it's wrong to blame Miles Davis for Miles Davis obsessives, but still... have I ever mentioned my musical hero is Mark Knopfler? I have? Hmmm.

Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Can
Gillian Welch
Aretha Franklin
Thomas Bangalter
Mark Knopfler.

(and if he makes it past the next post I'll be shocked)

Dom is evil. In comes Jason Pierce's mangy bunch.

Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Can
Gillian Welch
Aretha Franklin
Thomas Bangalter
Spiritualized

Nick must have finished listening to that Gillian Welch track by now and I want to hear "Uptown Top Ranking", ta very much.

Spiritualized
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Can
Althea And Donna
Aretha Franklin
Thomas Bangalter

Marvin Gaye is the soul survivor (arf)

Who's Jean Sibelius anyway? If I'm alone on an island I want Britney with me.

Spiritualized
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Britney Spears
Can
Althea And Donna
Aretha Franklin
Thomas Bangalter

TORI LASTED TWO POSTS, TRIUMPH IS MINE!!!! Ahem.

Knopfler is spared because I have a bigger bone to pick with Thomas Bangalter, who makes inhuman soulless BAD techno. Replace with Beyoncé, who you can dance to AND who makes you smile. Also if we're there for long enough we may even be able to perfect the arse dance.

Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Jean Sibelius
Can
Gillian Welch
Aretha Franklin
Beyoncé
Mark Knopfler

ooh bugger wrong c/p

Spiritualized
Talk Talk
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Britney Spears
Can
Althea And Donna
Aretha Franklin
Beyoncé

Never liked Talk Talk very much, so they get the boot in favour of Johnny Cash, for huge body of work and range of emotion.

Spiritualized
Johnny Cash
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Britney Spears
Can
Althea And Donna
Aretha Franklin
Beyoncé

Can are just boring after a while, I'd rather have "Forever changes" on my desert island.

Spiritualized
Johnny Cash
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Britney Spears
Love
Althea And Donna
Aretha Franklin
Beyoncé

I cannot be on an island with Jason Pierce because he is a twat. Replace with Björk who is much better at using choirs and stuff.

Björk
Johnny Cash
Marvin Gaye
Kate Bush
Duke Ellington
Britney Spears
Love
Althea And Donna
Aretha Franklin
Beyoncé

I am indie and there is no point pretending. Fuck Slayer, let's sling a load of syllables together and hope that some lyrics come out the other end:

Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Fox
Willie Colon
Clinic
The Sea and Cake
John Prine
Me'Shell NdegéOcello
Allen Toussaint
PFM

I am not indie but i still make a point of pretending. Of needing some underwater help. As per the monster mammal and its monstastomack :)
Captain Nemo to the rescue. Hopefully.

Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Fox
Willie Colon
Clinic
The Sea and Cake
John Prine
Me'Shell NdegéOcello
Allen Toussaint
Captain Nemo

(Dan do you dislike Prine? I know plenty of non-MN folks who like him the answer, btw, is that his songs are aural Coen Bros. films.)

time to get rid of the Fox and bring in the original singer of "Hound Dog"

Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
Clinic
The Sea and Cake
John Prine
Me'Shell NdegéOcello
Allen Toussaint
Captain Nemo

"...who like him. the answer..."

(I don't really have an opinion one way or the other, I just was amused because his name only comes up when I talk to Minnesotans.)

(I think you'd like him OK--pretty deadpan absurdist in that MN way.)

Perfect call on Sandie Shaw. If we must put bands who fluked a chart hit on the back of a jeans advert, may as well go for the kings:

Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
The Lilys
The Sea and Cake
John Prine
Me'Shell NdegéOcello
Allen Toussaint
Captain Nemo

Can't remember if she was mentioned in nearly 90 posts, but you can't go wrong with a bit of Welsh class:

Shirley Bassey
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
The Lilys
The Sea and Cake
John Prine
Me'Shell NdegéOcello
Allen Toussaint

Are we allowed indie if it dresses up in pop clothing?

Shirley Bassey
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
The Lilys
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
John Prine
Me'Shell NdegéOcello
Allen Toussaint

Sure, if pop can also dress up as rap:

Sarai
Shirley Bassey
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
The Lilys
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
John Prine
Me'Shell NdegéOcello

Eminent elderz reprazent:

Sarai
Shirley Bassey
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
The Lilys
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
John Prine
Ron Geesin

bye bye Ron G, hello ESG

Sarai
Shirley Bassey
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
The Lilys
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
John Prine
ESG

fikken sie auf, ESG.
make yerself at home, Kenny Wheeler.

Sarai
Shirley Bassey
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
The Lilys
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
John Prine
Kenny Wheeler

Morphing into country? Kay:
Kasey Chambers
Sarai
Shirley Bassey
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
John Prine
Kenny Wheeler

Shirley Bassey is dreadful, really. It's Jack Daniels month, anyway, may as well have a band to go with it.

Kasey Chambers
Sarai
Corb Lund Band
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
John Prine
Kenny Wheeler

not country, but definitely southern:

Kasey Chambers
Drive-By Truckers
Corb Lund Band
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Willie Colon
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
John Prine
Kenny Wheeler

Continuing on that country beat:
Kenny Chesnutt
Kasey Chambers
Drive-By Truckers
Corb Lund Band
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
John Prine
Kenny Wheeler

Should I be offended that my replacement of Mountain Goats with Lambchop upthread was completely ignored? Lambchop get no love.
Ah well, let's see if funky beats and production of David Holmes which removes the folky John Prine is taken more seriously...

Kenny Chesnutt
Kasey Chambers
Drive-By Truckers
Corb Lund Band
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
David Holmes
Kenny Wheeler

I can't believe Coltrane hasn't gotten in here yet. now he is.

Kenny Chesnutt
Kasey Chambers
Drive-By Truckers
Corb Lund Band
Sandie Shaw
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
David Holmes
John Coltrane

Kasey Chambers' one semi-big song, "Not Pretty Enough," is abysmal. More people need to hate this song.

Kenny Chesnutt
Busta Rhymes
Drive-By Truckers
Corb Lund Band
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
David Holmes
John Coltrane

not to intrude, but who is Kenny Chesnutt? Do you mean Kenny Chesney??

why have coltrane when you could have charlie parker?

Kenny Chesnutt
Busta Rhymes
Drive-By Truckers
Corb Lund Band
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Sophie Ellis-Bextor
David Holmes
Charlie Parker

i hate sophie ellis bextor!

Kenny Chesnutt
Busta Rhymes
Drive-By Truckers
Corb Lund Band
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Lumidee
David Holmes
Charlie Parker

corb lund band has a name that sounds like i wouldnt like them

Kenny Chesnutt
Busta Rhymes
Drive-By Truckers
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
Big Mama Thornton
Lumidee
David Holmes
Charlie Parker

who is big mama thornton?

Kenny Chesnutt
Busta Rhymes
Drive-By Truckers
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
2 Live Crew
Lumidee
David Holmes
Charlie Parker

chestnuts arent even a real type of nut!

Baby D
Busta Rhymes
Drive-By Truckers
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
2 Live Crew
Lumidee
David Holmes
Charlie Parker

my rampage ends here

Baby D
Busta Rhymes
Poison
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
2 Live Crew
Lumidee
David Holmes
Charlie Parker

ok no it doesnt

Baby D
Stevie Wonder
Poison
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
2 Live Crew
Lumidee
David Holmes
Charlie Parker

needs more girl

Baby D
Stevie Wonder
Poison
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
2 Live Crew
Lumidee
David Holmes
Aaliyah

wtf i left david holmes in an awfully long time

Baby D
Stevie Wonder
Poison
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
2 Live Crew
Lumidee
The Avalanches
Aaliyah

i'm out of here before i actually replace every single one! because that would be boring

minna - anna minna! ;)

("anna minna" = "way to go!". inna finno-ugric language. no kidding)

:)

Anthony Braxton
Cecil Taylor
Rollings Stones
Morton Feldman
Todd Rundgren (and The Nazz)
David Bowie
Scott Walker
Frank Zappa (and The Mothers of Invention)
Joni Mitchell and Madonna and Donna Summer

(sorry, i think i added seven)

nah sorry george, rewind, follow the rules like all the other suckas pls! you have to do it 1 at a time and you cant use any artists that have been used before! (eg. rolling stones, bowie, madonna, donna summer i can remember were all used before)

At least bloody read the first bloody post, everybody.

2 Live Crew were an embarrassment. Replace with Brand Nubian until someone comes along and puts in some hip-hop from the last ten years that I have not heard of.

Baby D
Stevie Wonder
Poison
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
Brand Nubian
Lumidee
The Avalanches
Aaliyah

i read the first post, and many follow-ups, but there seemed to be a lot of general ruling jumping and degradation just 1/3 of the way in

so i will jump in, but where do i take it from do you suggest, ms. g.s.h. ?

Replace Aaliyah with Abbey Lincoln, because I'm a lot more interested in hearing her, and there's a bigger back catalog.

Baby D
Stevie Wonder
Poison
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
Brand Nubian
Lumidee
The Avalanches
Abbey Lincoln

Take it from the last legitimate list posted, which is now the one I just made.

Replace Poison with Anthony Braxton, for something with a real edge to it.

Baby D
Stevie Wonder
Anthony Braxton
Deelat
Sandie Show
Grandmixer DXT
Brand Nubian
Lumidee
The Avalanches
Abbey Lincoln

And get this obscure hip-hop stuff out of here Grandmixer DXT. Replace with Joe Arroyo.

Baby D
Stevie Wonder
Anthony Braxton
Deelat
Sandie Show
Joe Arroyo
Brand Nubian
Lumidee
The Avalanches
Abbey Lincoln

Mo' better avant and pop implemented in one go.
Two words: Ikue Mori.

Baby D
Stevie Wonder
Anthony Braxton
Deelat
Sandie Show
Joe Arroyo
Brand Nubian
Lumidee
Ikue Mori
Abbey Lincoln

This island's up for grabs?

Baby D -- ba-bye.

two songs on one album including the word "AZZ" -- I think not.

Hello, Archers of Loaf -- More indie rock! Plus they turned down Madonna; such fortitude will do well on the desert island.

Stevie Wonder
Anthony Braxton
Deelat
Sandie Show
Joe Arroyo
Brand Nubian
Lumidee
Ikue Mori
Abbey Lincoln
Archers of Loaf

Stevie Wonder
Anthony Braxton
Deelat
Sandie Show
Joe Arroyo
Brand Nubian
Lumidee
Ikue Mori
Abbey Lincoln
Rahsaan Roland Kirk

Deelat is still unknown to me a year later... in which case the Talking Heads are moving in.

Stevie Wonder
Anthony Braxton
Talking Heads
Sandie Show
Joe Arroyo
Brand Nubian
Lumidee
Ikue Mori
Abbey Lincoln
Rahsaan Roland Kirk

Talking Heads were already here and had a pretty decent run. And now to be cheeky...

Stevie Wonder
Toni Braxton
Deelat
Sandie Shaw
Joe Arroyo
Brand Nubian
Lumidee
Ikue Mori
Abbey Lincoln
Rahsaan Roland Kirk

This thread was very popular at one time.

white people are cool again!

so long, brand nubian. hello, unrest!