Rush: Alex LifesonLed Zeppelin: John Paul JonesRolling Stones: Bill WymanKiss: Peter CrissAerosmith: Joey KramerSonic Youth: Kim GordonBlack Flag: the singersBauhaus: David JQueen: Roger TaylorBlack Sabbath: Bill WardMontrose: Sammy Hagar
― shad, Sunday, 21 September 2003 08:25 (twenty years ago) link
You are underestimating his sprawling sense of professionalism and top notch musicianship and overvaluing the two guys who were no more than one dimensional bluesy cock-rockers. John Paul Jones has more talent than Plant and Page put together. The guy is a very well rounded musician, and he finally got to prove it on In Through The Out Door. His ability to branch out into many different styles allowed the Bonham to finally show what he really had in his arsenal...unfortunately, the great Bonzo was not given the chance to grow as a drummer such as he was destined to if he only had straightened up and got his personal shit together. John Paul Jones was the strongest link in Led Zepplin.
― bahtology, Sunday, 21 September 2003 12:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 21 September 2003 12:15 (twenty years ago) link
? I admit I'm curious about the justification here!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 21 September 2003 12:34 (twenty years ago) link
― d.w., Sunday, 21 September 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 21 September 2003 14:57 (twenty years ago) link
here's the toughie: Fleetwood Mac. You can't say Christine because the new album misses her presence. And though Lindsey's the most annoying element now, it's hard to call him the weakest. Stevie might be loopy but she's the best songwriter in the group now. And whose gonna rip on that rhythm section. I can't do it.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 21 September 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 21 September 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
Depeche Mode: Andrew Fletcher (too easy perhaps)
Far too easy.
Yeah, I'm with Ned. The obvious answer is Peter Murphy!
Actually I can't choose any of them! This is one reason why I don't think I'll have any choices of my own here...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 21 September 2003 15:31 (twenty years ago) link
But John Doe had all of X's sex appeal! I see what you mean about Stipe and Yorke, especially Yorke, but at the same time I find that the best bits of Radiohead and REM - the rare moments when they don't piss me off - are entirely due to the vocals.
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 21 September 2003 15:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 21 September 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
If you are referring to Darryl Jones, then you are sorely mistaken. He is the only true musician in the bunch and he is the glue that holds those relics together like they never had been held before.
― bahtology, Sunday, 21 September 2003 15:48 (twenty years ago) link
I know you like Sting and all and therefore credit Jones's earlier work with the guy etc., but still, this is a ridiculous insult to Charlie Watts in particular.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 21 September 2003 15:50 (twenty years ago) link
roight, befoah Jones joined up we was howible!
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 21 September 2003 15:57 (twenty years ago) link
― p.j. (Henry), Sunday, 21 September 2003 16:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Maxwell von Bismarck (maxwell von bismarck), Sunday, 21 September 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link
wu tang - masta killa (u-god 2nd weakest)
― fsdh, Sunday, 21 September 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 21 September 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 21 September 2003 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
I always assumed that SY spent two albums shaking off the influence of their older drummers (EVOL and Sister) and then embarked on a career of Shelley-compatible crap.
― dlp9001, Sunday, 21 September 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link
"I'm a poem say-er"
― p.j. (Henry), Sunday, 21 September 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Kris (aqueduct), Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link
His early work with Sting does factor in, as well as his earlier work with Miles Davis and then later with the awesome singer/songwriter Joan Armatrading. But the real reason that he is not deserving of a "weakest link" is that he proved on Stripped and later on No Security that his presence has taken these dinosaurs of rock to levels of tightness that they never achieved in their "glory days". And as capable as I have heard Charlie Watts sound with his Big Band, I can only say that he has sounded as ragged and under-rehearsed as the rest of the Stones on the many too many live performances I have heard from them. I just don't get how anybody can appreciate and subsequently praise such mediocrity.
― bahtology, Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:09 (twenty years ago) link
Sure, Alex is a great drummer and all...but those high register backing vocals (the ones which actually make Van Halen sound like Van Halen) are all Anthony's doing.
― Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 21 September 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 21 September 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Sunday, 21 September 2003 22:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Sunday, 21 September 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link
EATB: ian mccullough
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Sunday, 21 September 2003 23:02 (twenty years ago) link
MBV: Deb Googe...
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 21 September 2003 23:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 21 September 2003 23:23 (twenty years ago) link
But would someone venture their 'pinions on who's the least reliable inPiano Circus?The King's Singers?
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 21 September 2003 23:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 22 September 2003 00:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 22 September 2003 00:19 (twenty years ago) link
So wrong that it renders every opinion you've ever expressed, or ever will express MOOT!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 September 2003 12:41 (twenty years ago) link
Each are essential to the overaul sound. There aren't enough Beastie Boys for one to be a "weakest link". Kate Shellenbach (sp?) then.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 September 2003 12:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 September 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link
Wwwwhhhhaaaaaaaatttt?!?!?!?
But Youth can play bass better than Paul Raven in his sleep!
[old Joke fans vs. new Joke fans - fite!]
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:22 (twenty years ago) link
Terry Chimes > Nick Sheppard, Vince White, Pete Howard....
[sorry Alex, I didn't mean to pick on you; I assume - like any good Clash fan - you've simply erased "Cut The Crap!" from your memory!]
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:27 (twenty years ago) link
WRONG WRONG! WRONG
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link
You're right...I totally block Cut the Crap. You're completely corect.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link
OK, granted Raven > Youth V.2.0 ('94-); but gimme Youth V.1.0. ('78-'82) over Raven every time! "Hairy Hippy" he may be, but in his prime he could smoke enough dope to tranquilise a small herd of elephants, stagger on stage, and still blow leave most of his contemporaries waaaaay behind!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
(I mean.... just look at his solo stuff - he must have been the weakest link, mustn't he?!)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:44 (twenty years ago) link
Sham 69 - Jimmy Pursey
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 September 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 September 2003 15:02 (twenty years ago) link
For Guided by Voices I have to say Nate Farley. Their shows have steadily declined since he joined the band and they went from a cooler full of beer to a cooler full of beer + a fifth of Jack.
― BrianB, Monday, 22 September 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 September 2003 16:07 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 22 September 2003 16:41 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Monday, 22 September 2003 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
Tough Call:Yo La Tengo - Georgia (eh - it's a toss-up.. There's absolutely no deadwood in that band.)Pere Ubu - The EML guy. Couldn't do without him/them, but Ravenstein/Feldman/Wheeler - didn't notice much difference when they changed.Minutemen - Reluctantly, Hurley - who's totally unrecognized as a drummerfucker..Just a notch below Keith Moon.
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 22 September 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
Japan: Rob DeanYes, another cheap shot, mainly because he left the band years before the band disbanded and because he didn't participate in the Rain Tree Crow "reunion", nor is he a prime player in any big post-Japan projects. (Witness David Sylvian's solo career and the whole JBK/Medium Productions series of projects.) I do really like him, though, and certainly think he was an integral member of the band.
Hm. That's it, I think.
― Legendary Nothingness (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 02:20 (twenty years ago) link
nuh-uh. it's Colm, definitely
there is no weak link in the "classic" fleetwood mac lineup, but if someone had to go it would be Christine
― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 02:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 02:42 (twenty years ago) link
"Obviously you never heard of his next band, Tank."
Oh yes I did - obviously you never met the little aresehole!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 07:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 07:50 (twenty years ago) link
hahhahahahahaha. I would've said the construction worker, myself.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:11 (twenty years ago) link
― BrianB, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Margus Kiis, estonian rock critic (Margus Kiis, estonian rock cri), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Ivan Valez, Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link
can't believe they're bringing this fucking show back
― frogbs, Monday, 28 September 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link