harvey danger - flagpole sitta

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i loved this song then and i love it now, i like how he sings

trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 06:37 (twenty years ago) link

Great internal rhymes! "Now I'm an am-pu/tee, goddam you"

dave q, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 09:57 (twenty years ago) link

i honestly feel like i'm the only person on earth who loves their second album. but i can't be the only person. can i? it hit that same kinda Pinkerton nerve for me.

scott seward, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 10:43 (twenty years ago) link

Another one I hate. Is there anything you like, trife, that isn't utter trash?

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 10:43 (twenty years ago) link

GREAT GREAT song

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 11:30 (twenty years ago) link

Andrew, you are SO WRONG. I know nothing else by this band but this song alone is pure gold.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:15 (twenty years ago) link

yup, agree.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:16 (twenty years ago) link

Is this the song with the "like [some guy] I make mad films/okay I don't make films/but if I did they'd have a samurai" verses?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

No, that's "One Week" by the Barenaked Ladies, the OTHER semi-ironic hit song of 1998.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:19 (twenty years ago) link

*pictures flat plain*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:43 (twenty years ago) link

i KNEW this would be a trife thread (altho admittedly i had just come from the 'clocks' one)

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:44 (twenty years ago) link

I heart Harvey Danger. The poor man's Weezer, but this song was classic nu-alternative

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:28 (twenty years ago) link

one of the most under-appreciated alt.rock albums of the 90s. terrific!

has anyone else heard the new Long Winters album? the lead singer of H.D. is a member of the band, and it is incredible pop music.

Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

this song is absolutely classic, yeah! 'i just wanna publish zines/and rage against machines' ...

maura (maura), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:02 (twenty years ago) link

god i miss the 1990s

maura (maura), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:02 (twenty years ago) link

this song used to annoy me because of the line "only stupid people are breeding". i guess it was supposed to do that. the hook is pretty undeniable... it sounds like the dandy warhols with a dork from a teen movie singing, which as a concept is x1000 better than the dandy warhols.

minna (minna), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

Seam M OTM about the Long Winters album. Recommended power pop with some incredibly catchy choruses.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

minna POWERFULLY OTM

Aaron A., Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

thank you so much for reminding me about this song. i once was lost but now i'm found.

Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 19:52 (twenty years ago) link

OK it's better than any Dandy Warhols song but we don't have be hating on the Dandys. They's quite the professional and consistent combo.

I really should listen to King James Version again (I have in a big box of promos somewhere) but Sad Sweetheart Of The Rodeo was a nice song.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:31 (twenty years ago) link

This is better back to back with the Refreshments' "Banditos."

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

Please do not ever mention "Banditos" again.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:39 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, come now. My wayward youth was spent with Banditos, Harvey Danger, Marcy Playground, Tracy Bonham and all the other wonders of mid '90s commercial-alternative-radio.

I have no capacity to dislike them.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

Do you still play with action figures? Something things need to be left in the past, man. Like "Banditos."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:43 (twenty years ago) link

Do you still play with action figures?

Haha, I never did. But I do have a Dirk Nowitzki action figure on my desk.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

T/S: Marcy Playground v. the Refreshments, who is hated more

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:47 (twenty years ago) link

Marcy. Refreshments at least did the King Of The Hill theme.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

dirk nowitzki!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 06:40 (twenty years ago) link

get ready to replace that nowitzki figure with an antawn jamison one. the future is now in dallas! (p.s. i haven't heard this song in a while and remember it fondly [perhaps for that very reason])

will g. (will g.), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 12:26 (twenty years ago) link

I'd rather have a Steve Nash figure, complete with long, greasy hair and string to hold it back.

And a Nick Van Exel figure to stand on the side and fume that he got traded to a shitty team.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

I hated this song when it came out, but now I don't.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

This song strongly irritated me at the time, and I suspect it still would.

Marcy Playground, on the other hand, had a few good tunes.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

My mom used to think that Marcy Plaground song said "Asthma, sex and candy".

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

That is so much better. Wheezing, Kit-Kats and gettin' it on!

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 18:07 (twenty years ago) link

TS: Geggy Tah Vs. Harvey Danger

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

ha ha I liked Geggy Tah

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
and i dont even own a tv

3333333333, Sunday, 3 July 2005 08:31 (eighteen years ago) link

FUCKING TERRIBLE

and since when did milo have a "desk"?!?!???!?

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 July 2005 09:04 (eighteen years ago) link

how'd you forget Bare Naked Ladies?

nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Sunday, 3 July 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I lost my Dirk action figure when I moved and there's still no greasy Nash figure. Boooo.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 3 July 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i loved this as a kiddy, still like it now. i have the 7", i think.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 4 July 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU COULDN'T BE GAYER IF YOUR NAME WAS ETHAN PADGETT

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, this song is all right! i sometimes see one of the guys from harvey danger at shows in chicago. i guess he lives here now.

an interesting taking sides might be this vs. "semi-charmed life."

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

"semi-charmed life" is a perfect example of a song i probably "hated" when it came out because i thought i was supposed to or something, but really sounds great now.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think i ever actually hated "flagpole sitta," tho, because i was able to appreciate it as a novelty/one-hit wonder (whereas third eye blind signalled the horrible mediocrity of mass culture, i guess?)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:09 (eighteen years ago) link

gay gay gay buttfucking gay vs. gay gay buttfuckin gay

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i also enjoyed the three seconds of "flagpole sitta" featured in the film disturbing behavior (which i saw at the dollar theater becuz i had a crush on katie holmes).

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

no one commented on the ashton kutcher dream i had last night.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:11 (eighteen years ago) link

stence smokes dope w.the pope

mark s (mark s), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:11 (eighteen years ago) link

if you like katie holmes, you're gay (HELLO TOM CRUISE)

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Wish Johnny Cash had covered this one, slow and somber.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 23 May 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link

had to stop the video at curves of your body / feel a bit naughty 🤢

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 23 May 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

i swear they played it on morning “alternative” radio for 12 months straight

it was borderline abuse

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 May 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link

"Run it up the flagpole" is such a 90s ad agency / James Carville phrase (appropriately played with in this song).

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 23 May 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

don't wanna think about that lead singer playing with anything

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 23 May 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

song is still played on radio constantly, very much part of the oppressive 'safe list'

dyl, Monday, 23 May 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

When this song comes up, I think of the review (Charles Aaron in Spin?, who knows) that had a line like – "He claims 'I don't even own a TV,' which means he must have copped those Elvis Costello moves while doing laundry at his parents' house."

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Monday, 23 May 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

i have now got this bile stuck in my head on repeat but in the same way it always used to be which is (on a loop)
“paranoia paranoia everyone is coming to get meeee / dat da data dat da data data da da da daaaaaada (but in like a Jerry Lewis bellhop nasal whine)

kill me god

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 May 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

For years I woke up every single day with this song stuck in my head.

Lily Dale, Monday, 23 May 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

the part that gets stuck in my head is 'butnooneeverdoes!'

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

vg otm

good hate watch fodder (todd in the shadows - "one hit wonderland: harvey danger").

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

I mean

I love this song and always have.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

Eazy OTM about a Johnny Cash cover

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

fun fact: Bean Dad was once a touring member of this band

alpine static, Monday, 23 May 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

noooooooooo

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

I really hate this song!

brimstead, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

Absolutely love it--had it on my decade-end list. I published a zine, I hate(d) Rage Against the Machine, I did and do own a TV.

clemenza, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

Reviews from 1998, the last issue of said fanzine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20001120133200/http://www.popped.com/radioon/98/ro011.html

clemenza, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

I can't help it and love this song. It does seem to be one of those songs that people either love or hate.

Bee OK, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

I didn't hate it, just thought it was "trying too hard"... I would choose "Sex and Candy" over this one (they sort of go together in my mind).

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link

See, “Sex and Candy” was one of (many songs) from that time I couldn’t stand.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

I would choose "Sex and Candy" over this one

100%

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

sex and candy...not sexy, no appearance by cameo or mandy moore, what gives

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link

singer sounds a bit like darkest timeline J0hn D@rni3ll3

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:38 (one year ago) link

another terrible song!

brimstead, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link

picking "Sex and Candy" over this is insane

alpine static, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link

if i am chosing between those two things then my life has already gone to a terrible place so i would end it all

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:59 (one year ago) link

Death is not an option.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link

“If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice” — Geddy “Choose Yr Fake Indie Poison” Lee

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

i choose death

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:00 (one year ago) link

I choose going back in time and forcing the band to I unwrite the song.

Then they release "I Don't Write the Songs" instead

Abe Kayfabe (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link

Huh, the lead singer wrote a 33 1/3 book about Joni Mitchell.

(not sure that Todd in the Shadows video is a hate watch though, since Todd seems to be on the correct side of this debate)

enochroot, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:12 (one year ago) link

i saw him open for Robyn Hitchcock 12 or so years ago, he had some nice tunes and sang harmony during some of Robyn's set. Also met him years later at a book swap at a bar, iirc he brought several Philip Roth books.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

vg just be glad your brain didn't choose this song as its permanent wake-up alarm. I don't honestly think "Sex and Candy" would have been an improvement but I never got the choice.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:55 (one year ago) link

It could be worse, the “come my lady come come my lady” song was only a couple of years after this.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 04:01 (one year ago) link

Or the “when I’m horny like thirsty she’s a cool drink of water” song.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link

A few things I didn't know...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cu3MMzfpww

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 04:21 (one year ago) link

^ Interesting.

I may not have heard this in full since before Peep Show was a thing. Watching the video now (for the first time, IIRC) I just keep hearing where the Peep Show edits AREN'T.

I really don't hate it. Judge me harshly if you must.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 06:40 (one year ago) link

Go, my lady

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 10:45 (one year ago) link

"butterfly" >> this

(not really but idk, i'm generally happier to hear it nowadays than "flagpole sitta" tho)

dyl, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

what was the genre of pseudo-inspirational rock-infused hip hop that had lame rhymes that seemed like cliches out of a middle school English class?

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

I like both this song and "come my lady," sorry not sorry

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

But not "Sex and Candy" really

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

the only Marcy Playground song worth a shit is A Cloak of Elvenkind

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

(not sure that Todd in the Shadows video is a hate watch though, since Todd seems to be on the correct side of this debate)

― enochroot, Monday, May 23, 2022 8:12 PM

yeah, i regretted my wording as soon as i hit submit. i meant it's a good hate watch for folks like me who can't stand this song. todd is charming and informative, as always.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link

of course “butterfly” is better than this, that song rules!!!!

brimstead, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I like "Butterfly" (I don't think of it in the same "category," tho)

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

At a party the other night, we did karaoke to both “Flagpole Sitta” and “Sex and Candy” (neither was my choice). They were both pretty fun!

Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Monday, 1 May 2023 15:46 (eleven months ago) link

My mom used to think that Marcy Plaground song said "Asthma, sex and candy".

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:40 PM (nineteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

ę™® (map), Monday, 1 May 2023 17:37 (eleven months ago) link

This is the thrilling conversation I've been waiting for.

Hideous Lump, Monday, 1 May 2023 21:29 (eleven months ago) link


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