Dave Lombardo vs Paul Bostaph

Lombardo. In a laugher.

A friend of mine told me that when Bostaph was in the band, he was all monitor-ed up like a regular rock drummer, which was why the rhythms sounded so stiff and ordinary. But Lombardo apparently doesn't play with monitors. The rest of the band has them, so they can hear him, but he just gets up there and plays, and King, Hannemann and Araya follow him. That's why Slayer sounds the way they do when Lombardo's back there.

Did he just come into his own on Divine Intervention then?

That's interesting about Lombardo's lack of monitors - sorry if this is an ignorant question, but does that mean he can't hear the rest of the band and they have to follow him?

How come it doesn't all collapse around him then?

That sounds like the impression I always get from hearing Metallica live - that Lars is just playing some bizarre song that only he can hear with little regard for such basics as playing in time. The difference being that he's one of the most lamentable drummers ever!

It would've been fantastic to hear Slayer with Proscriptor McGovern of Absu, who auditioned for Slayer a few years ago but was rejected for "personality" reasons.

The real answer of course is Gene Hoglan.

Nothing wrong with a click track in the studio. Lars' time on the studio albums was just fine though...I always did wonder how, if he didn't use a click on the black album, how they could have done all the edits punches that they most certainly did and have it all sound smooth (answer: he must have good time?).

Love Gene Hoglan, too, though. Vader doesn't get enough credit anywhere. Yeah, they rip off Slayer pretty blatantly sometimes, but their last album was great. I also really like the drummer for Origin, though his name escapes me right now.

Gene Hoglan's playing on Death's 'Symbolic' is just ridiculously, ridiculously over-the-top in the best possible way.

Hoglan on "Individual Thought Patterns" is even more brilliant. It's the best Death album by far, has the dream lineup (Schuldiner & LaRocque on guitars, DiGiorgio on fretless bass, Hoglan on drums and Scott Burns twiddling the knobs) and is freer, more jam-like and less constrained by the "song" approach than the other albums. It has those magical moments where the guitars take a back seat and DiGiorgio and Hoglan do crazy virtuoso bass/drums interplays. Why oh why does nobody make music like that anymore? This is the kind of stuff that makes you play airdrums, airguitar and airbass all at once.

Pete Sandoval is good too. And the drummer from Mastodon

In the list of great metal drummers, what about the guy from Immortal, too? I've only got Sons of Northern Darkness so far, but his performance is pretty stunning. The little fills that resume Tyrants from its stop-start parts are stunning. But best of all (and I'd think probably my favourite moment of guitar/drums interplay in all of metal) is the part of One by One where the pure thrash mosh part kicks in about 3 minutes through. That must be as grin-inducing as metal gets!

Admittedly, this would have denied the world Reign in Blood in the form we know it, but the idea of Master-era Metallica with Lombardo is kind of enticing too.

Siegbran, what do you think of Trym Torson? I think my my fave "metal" drummer is Chris Pennie, but I'm not sure he counts as strict metal.

The guy from Nevermore is pretty great too. I also have a special place in my heart for Lee Morris on Paradise Lost's 'Draconian Times' for not terribly complex but great 'song' drumming.

This thread is making me want to listen to metal again.

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...MY DRUMMER IN MY BAND ...DAMAGE INC... CAN PLAY DYER'S EVE ALL THE THROUGH AND THEN GO STRAIGHT INTO RAINING BLOOD!!!!!

Hellhammer from Mayhem/Arcturus, who plays like some kind of high-speed CADbot reproducing an HR Giger drawing;

Bard Faust of Emperor, who had half the speed and ten times the feeling of Trym;

Oscar Garcia of Morbid Angel, who always plays too fast and usually it's perfectly disturbing;

Danny Herrera of Napalm Death, who's like a blast beat version of Bill Ward, plays with lots of swing.

So Lombardo, of course.

Sooooo true. He's shamefully low in the mix on ITNE though.

"Diamonds.... AND RUST!"

but, anyway, purists be damned - Bostaph is CLEARLY a better metal drummer

However, when the music started to lose its soul, so did his drumming. I wasn't thrilled with it on Diabolus...

and I haven't purchased the godawful God Hates Us All because I've heard the album on the net (before it came out). I was embarassed that they called it a Slayer album.

And the latter isn't arguable, as the music was definitely "harsher" than the Load albums, but then again, is that saying much, and who cares? The material wasn't any better, that's for sure.

Cool that Dave Lombardo is doing a solo drumming record, in the mold of that intro track on the first Grip Inc album (which I played a ton in lieu of the rest of the album, and which still stands above these new tracks)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GiARhBaVds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q29IXL_HfQ

I'm not a Slayer guy, but seeing Lombardo with John Zorn at Big Ears was awesome. Dude rocks.

I just interviewed him for the cover story in the new issue of The Wire. Realized while writing it that I'd seen him live with Slayer (3x), with Fantômas, and with Zorn/Frith/Laswell (plus Eye from Boredoms on guest vocals)...anyway, the issue's out today and I'm still kind of shaking my head. Dave Lombardo on the cover of The Wire! (The solo album is really good.)

seen w/ Slayer and Misfits and he still gots it. glad to hear he's doing a solo record. didn't he do some Vivaldi drumming project once or something?

Seen him with Slayer and Fantomas, and always loved how well he bridged metal and (for lack of a better word) experimental music. Him and Mick Harris.

didn't he do some Vivaldi drumming project once or something?

Yeah, it's called Vivaldi: The Meeting and it's fucking wild. Chamber music with blast beats.

he's also got a new project with members of Biffy Clyro called Empire State Bastard... not heard it yet...

Always nice to wake up to Dave Lombardo on NPR

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/05/1173267909/from-slayer-to-tito-puente-drummer-dave-lombardo-changes-tempo