I WILL REVEAL THE SECRET OF PROG ROCK ON THIS THREAD

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All you have to do is wear a cape, and it all makes perfect sense.

gage o (gage o), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

bouffancy is also a factor

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

And horses. On ice. Wearing gowns.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

All prog wants to do is have some fun.


Or at least have as little fun as possible but pretend to think it's fun.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

... and being a complete ARSE helps too

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

Men with voice-ranges lower than tenor = NOT PROG.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

may i just say that this is the best prog album ever:
http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/images/APP-ToMaI.jpg

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

So far:

1. Wear cape. While flitting about.
2. Have equestrian theme, preferably on frozen water.
3. Have said horses wear flowing robes.
4. Pretend to enjoy yourself, when in fact you are covertly concerned with the next 17 chord changes in the 15/8 time signature.
5. Singing in falsetto while acting like an asshole.
5. Reference opium-stupered horror writers.

This recipe can't go wrong, folks!

gage o (gage o), Thursday, 2 October 2003 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

true prog: "OMG IS THAT A *REAL* MELLOTRON? DUDE!"
VS
ex-prog posers who obviously are totally, like, popdork capitalists now: "Mellotrons sucked, the damned thing were impossible to keep in tune, couldn't play a note for more than 8 seconds. The sound was all wobbly! The finger-noise!"

Ooph.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Thursday, 2 October 2003 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

7. If this fails, attack the audience with your army of Aquatarkuses.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 2 October 2003 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

note that the cd version of "tales and mystery of imagination" has orson welles narrating on part of it. more prog albums should have had that...

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 2 October 2003 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

at least one lengthy (>5 min.) solo performed on large modular synthesizer

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 2 October 2003 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

Welles also narrated on a Manowar album.
And now Christopher Lee has joind Rhapsody.

Yay for the cheesemetal, I suppose.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Thursday, 2 October 2003 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

Slightly offtopic:

  • Vincent Price's Narration in "Thriller" C/D
  • Michael Moorcock's Lyrics on mid-period Hawkwind tracks C/D

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 2 October 2003 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

i also think having "project" in your band name usually denotes that you are too-prog-for-school

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno, lotsa jazz folks have "project" in their group's names.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

true, but they probably secretly wish they could play prog rock.

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

But don't we all?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:22 (twenty years ago) link

indeed

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

*thinks again, "indeed," and smokes a pipe*

Michael G, Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

even after this discussion, this particular piece of cover art remains inexplicable:

http://www.dprp.vuurwerk.nl/news/2002/images/2002_08/wakeman2.jpg

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 2 October 2003 20:04 (twenty years ago) link

To get back to the subject of prog fashion, 90125-era Yes started the trend for wearing white jumpsuits on stage that remains popular to this day, most often coupled with a tinted mullet. Capes and wizard hats were killed off by punk, I think that only Yes tribute bands dress like that these days.
Is Rick Wakeman's dog called Oscar then or have I missed the point?

udu wudu (udu wudu), Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

Did any progrock bands actually have the Wizards-crap in their lyrics?
People keep going on about how "ohahaha, your damn prog and all that ghosts and goblins lyric shit"

There's none of that! It's only totally serious and important stuff like WE ARE THE PIONEEERS OF C and "There I burn in my own lights fuelled with flags torn out of books, and histories of marching together"

OK OK OK, there's the seasoned witches, mountains that just stand there and rearranging of livers for solid mental grace to take into consideration; and this Gabriel fellow bumping around about butterflies, flutterbyes, gutterflies... but... wait... Er. I forgot my question.


The cymbal sometimes goes click.
But then you POUND it and it goes all RAPPATAPP-SPLASH!

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:16 (twenty years ago) link

By - Tor & The Snow Dog
Words and music by geddy lee, alex lifeson, and neil peart

I. at the tobes of hades
The tobes of hades
Lit by flickering torchlight
The netherworld is gathered in the glare
Prince by-tor takes the cavern
To the north light
The sign of eth is rising in the air
By-tor, knight of darkness,
Centurion of evil
Devil’s prince

II. across the styx
Across the river styx
Out of the lamplight
His nemesis is waiting at the gate
The snow dog, ermine glowing
In the damp night
Coal-black eyes shimmering with hate
By-tor and the snow dog
Square for battle
Let the fray begin

III. of the battle

Instrumental

IV. epilogue
The battle’s over
And the dust is clearing
Disciples of the snow dog sound the knell
Rejoicing echoes
As the dawn is nearing
By-tor in defeat
Retreats to hell
Snow dog is victorious
The land of the overworld
Is saved again

udu wudu (udu wudu), Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:34 (twenty years ago) link

Come on. It's Rush!
Don't make me do the big CSS-monstrosity thing on this page!

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

Sometimes when Björk wears a white cape thing and white facepaint, she reminds me of 90125-era Jon Anderson.

Damian (Damian), Friday, 3 October 2003 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

Holy shit! Is that Rick Wakeman cover for real? That terrier is like Futurama's hypno-toad and Rick is his human slave.

Kim (Kim), Friday, 3 October 2003 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

that cover is from one of the cds in a rick wakeman rarities box set apparently. i never realised terriers were so prog.

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Friday, 3 October 2003 07:11 (twenty years ago) link

From rickwakeman.com

..on to Volume 2: The Oscar Concert It is there due to the fact, that only 86 people turned up at a show during the 2000 UK Solo-Tour, and a small dog, Oscar, stole the show. You can witness the moment when Rick spots the dog in the audience and starts to turn the whole show (including his famous inbetween songs stories) into the Concert for Oscar. This is as sentimental as funny, and the performances are excellent throughout. What'd you expect? Watch out for "Classical Doggy In The Window" Performance

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 3 October 2003 10:43 (twenty years ago) link

Capes and wizard hats were killed off by punk,
and thats a shame, because that was the only thing that punks shoulda taken from the prog crowd.
No, really. I could really imagine Pere Ubu dressed like the cast of Lord of the Rings.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 3 October 2003 10:57 (twenty years ago) link

Capes and wizard hats were killed off by punk

Not strictly true... capes didn't totally die w/ hobbit-rock. I seem to recall that Handsome Dick Manitoba of the Dictators wore one on stage, though I guess that's cuz he was a wrestling fan rather than Gandalf's apprentice.

And you have clocked the cover of the new GBV ain'tcha?

http://www.gbv.com/gifs/ole-565_the_best_of_gbv_small.jpg

NickB (NickB), Friday, 3 October 2003 11:08 (twenty years ago) link

Why do people barrack prog all the time? And always compare it to punk? Both are overblown pieces o'crap, with bullshit rhetoric.

Are Godspeed You Black Emperor the point where prog and punk fuck and stop taking the piss?

Where else?

Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Friday, 3 October 2003 22:49 (twenty years ago) link

Prog Rock got me laid. End of story.

kate (kate), Saturday, 4 October 2003 12:49 (twenty years ago) link

Prog Rock got me laid. End of story.

How? Was Wakeman there in person?

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Saturday, 4 October 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

his famous inbetween songs stories

I argue over the use of the adjective here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 October 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link

terriers are totally prog!!

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 5 October 2003 05:48 (twenty years ago) link

ALL HAIL THE HYPNO-DOG!

Yes are grebt! They're like Spinal Tap, only serious. I mean come on.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 5 October 2003 06:55 (twenty years ago) link

di, i kiss you!

Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 5 October 2003 07:57 (twenty years ago) link

Carl Palmer toured with TWO GONGS. I think they had different constellations on them.

http://www.carlpalmer.com/img0002.jpg

Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Sunday, 5 October 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

Sometimes when Björk wears a white cape thing and white facepaint, she reminds me of 90125-era Jon Anderson.

I think I preferred when Jon Anderson did it

Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 5 October 2003 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.truthtree.com/images/green-toast.gif

half jack, Sunday, 5 October 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link


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