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since I bought my vinylator, I've been listening to the 12" of 'Sons of the Stage'. It is so classic, a stomping Hawkwind-go-pop slice of briliance.

I intend digging up their album "Quality Street", but my memory is the rest of it doesn't live up to that monster track. Is my memory faulty?

Anyone got any idea if the people from WoT went on to do anything musical whatsoever?

The Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Finest World of Twist moment was The Storm. I think it was their first single, "And I've tried a thousand times, to make the sun shine in my life, but the words will not be formed, I can't release them from the storm" (I think, remembering lyrics from 10 years ago = difficult). MC Shells was a great name.

Of course St Etienne name check them in "London Belongs to Me"

No idea what happened to them.

MarkH, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

World of Twist are stone cold Classic. "Quality Street" doesn't quite live up to the promise of the singles though. A very underrated influence - Liam G. always said if he had a post-Oasis outfit he would call them "Sons of the Stage", and the Oasis anniversary gigs are billed as "10 Years of Noise & Confusion", a line from the single.

Some of them went on to form Earl Brutus. Some of them went on to be in Mum & Dad, signed to Twisted Nerve.

I happened to be DJing last night, just playing some tunes inbetween bands... I stuck "Sons of the Stage" on and almost immediately people started coming up to ask what it was. Genius.

Andrew Williams, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

World of Twist are now Mum and Dad on www.twistednerve.co.uk. I believe that they do production work on Badly Drawn Boy's album as well.

Martin, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

...and in another weird coincidence, Martin was one of the people who asked me about Sons of the Stage last night... the world is indeed a small place!

Andrew Williams, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was wondering why an Alta vista search retrieved that Mum & Dad page (which had "World of Twist", "Tony Ogden", and various other WoTy keywords buried in the source).

My sister once said that there is a really good single version of 'The Storm' but maintained that the album version is a bit weedy.

DV, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have a Japanese (!) version of QS that I found used a couple of years back, and while I don't remember being knocked out by it, it seemed enjoyable enough. Might have to give it another listen. They were one of those bands I kept seeing mentioned when I first start reading MM in earnest in 1990 or so.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Have to agree with the above, The Storm is indeed a mighty single and Quality Street is well worth searching out.

They were one of those curious bands who get dragged along in a movements slipstream (baggy/indie dance) but who sound nothing like that movement.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Classic. Pulp owe them everything.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three months pass...
Just found Quality Street for budget price tonight (sparked by Earl Brutus conversation with Carsmile). My old tape copy is long since vanished so this was a pleasing find, and I have to say:

CLASSIC WITH BIG KNOBS ON

"Pulp owe them everything" = "Pulp were doing similar 2 years before" though. But they're not much like Pulp - there's something yet more perverse and diffuse about them. And yeah, "Sons Of The Stage" is awesome - my 12" of it had gathered dust, fool that I am, but Sussed patrons should expect it as a regular feature from now on I think.

Tom, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Their cover of She's Like A Rainbow is my favourite Stones cover, next to of course Cat Power's Satisfaction.

The WOT single on Caff is, however, utterly terrible.

electric sound of jim, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*"Pulp owe them everything" = "Pulp were doing similar 2 years before" though*

Hmmm. Pulp were at the My Legendary Girlfriend and Countdown stage around the time WOT were at their peak in 1990/91. Just listen to Pulp's next developments in 92/93- bringing fruity synth sounds to the fore on Babies, O.U and Styloroc and a melodic and vocal shift away from a slightly strained Brel/Walker/Bowie to an easier pop delivery. It just struck me that WOT *might* have been a catalyst for Pulp to bring these elements to the fore.

I agree that overall the two bands are not much alike, but I would say that both are recognisably *Northern* in outlook. Not that I can define this precisely, but neither could never have come from Slough or Portsmouth. I will attempt to start a thread on this in the new year, as I've had many discussions with friends about Northernness and what it means in music.

Dr. C, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well I made the comment Dr C because it seems to me that the Pulp aesthetic is pretty much formed on Separations - "Countdown", "My Legendary Girlfriend", "Death II", "Love Is Blind" - the Brel-isms are already losing out, there are fruity synths-a-go-go, and this is back in 89 (A shame they never explored the indie-house style more, tho). WOT have some of the glam influence Pulp picked up on, though.

Tom, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I guess I think of the Separations material as the last of the *old* Pulp, or at least an *intermediate* Pulp. I think there was a step change in '92, tho I should dig out my vinyl copy of Separations to check. The Glam influence is maybe what I was stumbling around trying to get at.

Dr. C, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is very predictable (I am Dr.C!!*) but CLASSIC.
esp. The Lights, The Spring, The Storm.
Also search: "New Electric Pop And Soul" - which I've got an that Icerink label comp. It's brill.


(*or more accurately, I am Dr.C minus the early Kinks/Small Faces obsession ;-) )

Jeff W, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Beware of Imitations! I'll have you listening to mid-60's Freakbeat compilations before long, Jeff! :)

Dr. C, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

They wrer phantastic. I still have their first few singles, tho' I thought the grid's production of their album was a bit sucky. "Blackpool Tower Suite" = r0x0r!

Norman Phay, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My "unearthed and loving it more than ever" album of 2001. Thanks ILM

Arthur, Saturday, 22 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
The album was a disappointment on the singles and live show, but nevertheless it's still valid.

Is this pre-Pulp or not? I think it was pre-Brit pop, full stop.

Taking on the premise that Brit Pop was a reinvention of 60's & 70's pop music in the 90's. My opinion is that they qualify as the forerunners of Brit Pop.

Even their name is borowed from the 60's. There used to be many cheesy cheap albums called "THE WORLD OF ........." i.e. the Bachelors (not recommended). It wouldn't surprise me if our man Jarvis saw the WOT and exploited their deliberate cheesyness for Pulp. No discredit to our man though, he's still a class act, talent was still required.

Why were this band not gi-normous??

Vaughan Harrington, Sunday, 10 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the writing on the sleeve is indeed in the same font as the 'The World of ...' series of LPs which were Decca Phase 4's budget-priced single artist compilations filled with tracks from the proper LPs on the label

michael, Sunday, 10 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four years pass...
Well, sad to revive in light of events, but I'll admit it did prompt me to dig out Quality Street and try again -- and you know, I do think this time it is clicking pretty well for me, though something about it still feels like a slight misfire. But thanks to this webpage I am eager to download the 12" mixes now, and I admit to being very curious to hear what was different about the pre-album singles...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 5 August 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

What recent events?

Sons of the Stage is astonishingly classic!

M Carty (mj_c), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

What recent events?

Erm.

Tony Ogden RIP

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

And yes, the 12" of "Sons of the Stage" IS all that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 5 August 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I'm really sorry to hear that, I must have missed that thread completely. That's truly appalling news.

M Carty (mj_c), Sunday, 6 August 2006 06:45 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Sons Of The Stage video on YouTube

There's some other videos/TV performances up, too.

etc, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:06 (eighteen years ago)

must get broadband.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:08 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

a few years ago in a moment of madness i traded 'the storm' cd single for some baked beans.
i've regretted it ever since.
so this week i tracked down a copy again, and it arrived today.
the 12" version is f*cking immense.

verdict : classic.

i'm now going to compare the single version to the album version .. to see if i notice a difference as i'd always assumed it was the same !

mark e, Friday, 13 January 2012 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

this album is perfect.

i found a mint vinyl edition in a local charity shop a few years ago and have recently been listening to it on repeat a lot recently.

[ as per usual this thread will now sink from trace .. just wanted to register my love .. ta ]

mark e, Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

Quite the archive

http://world-of-twist.blogspot.co.uk/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:40 (twelve years ago)

awesome, thanks

fit and working again, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:52 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

Great interview with Gordon and Jim

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 December 2013 15:45 (twelve years ago)

eight years pass...

Not sure if it has been mentioned in other threads but the Gordon King book is very readable - very evocative of a time and a place. Enjoyed it, though I was far more into Earl Brutus than WoT.

I happily devoured it in a day.

djh, Sunday, 14 August 2022 20:58 (three years ago)

four months pass...

I got it for Christmas! Yeah, it's very very easy to read - and short - so you can indeed finish it off quickly. Gordon is a genuinely nice guy and this books captures his personality and sense of humour very well - it also captures very well what it was like to be bumbling about trying to get your shit together in Thatcher's Britain.

A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Monday, 9 January 2023 15:32 (three years ago)


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