Carla Bozulich - Red Headed Stranger

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as in Willie Nelson's 1975 album of the same name, which she has re-recorded in its entirity, and was just released recently.

I got into the Willie album to begin with via the Geraldine Fibbers' cover of "Hands On The Wheel", and caught her tour last year where she played the whole album every night before recording it, so I've been anticipating this for a while, but in many ways it's actually surpassed my expectations. the recording is just beautiful, and Nels Cline really shines on the instrumental passages, his best supporting role since Watt's "Contemplating the Engine Room".

the big news is that Willie himself heard Carla's version, and consented to participate, which he does on 3 tracks. I have to say, though I love his unmistakable guitar playing on the first track, the 2 songs Willie sings with Carla on are IMO the low point of the album, although I've warmed up to them a little with each listen. they sing together but their voices just don't gel, they don't quite harmonize and neither of them really takes lead. I'd prefer if they'd taken turns, duet-style (although I share Tom's general distaste for songs recorded as duets that weren't originally written with as duets).

so...anyone else give a damn?

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

also, here's a good article/interview that explains a lot about the whole project: http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2003-10-09/music2.html/1/index.html

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

Wow. I don't know what to think about this. Red Headed Stranger has been one of my favorite albums since I was a kid and my dad had it. I would read along with the story in the comic book frames on the sleave when he lisened to it. I love the story, the songs, the sparse sound, and Willie's voice. I still listen to it regularly. I'm not a big fan of Carla's voice, but I love Nels Cline, and the idea of him doing free jazz freakouts all over one of my favorite records is both intriguing and terrifying. I have to hear it of course, but I'm equally prepared to despise it.

BrianB, Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

Oh it's BRILLIANT, I really can't recommend it enough. Bugger I was just about to play Can I Sleep In Your Arms? off the Rough Trade country comp, but the bastard keeps skipping :(

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

I've never heard WN's original either, I'm just taking it as a record that stands on its own...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:44 (twenty years ago) link

I'd be pretty interested to hear the reactions of hardcore fans of the Willie album...it would definitely be worth your checking out, Brian, if only to satisfy your curiousity. I think Carla is faithful to the overall mood of the songs and the story, while still taking musical liberties. some of the interpretations are pretty creative (such as turning "Remember Me" into a smokey torch song), but really there aren't any really drastic freakouts, although as I mentioned, the instrumental passages are stretched out a bit, but mostly not abrasively. Nels sticks to the lap steel most of the time, not a lot of his usual toys'n'noise.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

also the idea of covering a whole album is indeed a risky one, but I think it makes perfect sense in this case because Willie's original album was itself mostly comprised of covers which he re-interpreted to fit together as a larger narrative. so someone else coming along and putting her stamp on those songs really isn't too far-fetched.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

I adore Carla's voice and lament that the Geraldine Fibbers are no more. What a fantastic band they were. I'll definitely have to pick this up.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 9 October 2003 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

oh, and while I'm shamelessly plugging - she just started a US tour: http://www.carlabozulich.com/TourF03.html
should be good...I have a boot from a show they played in SF a few months ago and her band sounds great and is playing some Fibbers tunes, some Ethyl Meatplow, some RHH and other assorted covers.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 9 October 2003 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

Good to see Jonathan Bond's work posted here. I edited that story. Yup, both Carla and Willie's versions are sublime.

Chris O., Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link

I am mad crazy about this record, it's been on constant repeat along with the nina nastasia one. But, carla is one of my favorite voices of all time, so I would probably listen to her sing anything. I saw her touring in March and they did a few of these songs along with some Fibbers and Scarnella stuff, so that got me warmed up for it. I even like the instrumentals and the cheesy duet songs.

I'll be seeing them live again this saturday night, hurray!

Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Thursday, 9 October 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks for the link to the tour sked. I just went and bought 2 tickets for the show at Tonic. With Carla Kihlstedt opening -- both Carlas in one night! Ack! I'm very happy. And I haven't even heard the Red-headed Stranger remake/tribute/whatever yet. I just know it's good. When I first got "Butch," I just kept listening to it over and over. "California Tuffy" was on every mixtape I made that year. I think I will listen to it now.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Friday, 10 October 2003 06:13 (twenty years ago) link

OK, I finally heard this. And I think it's a great companion to Willie's masterpiece. It's flawed in comparison, but succeeds on its own terms. More than anything, it's a tribute to the story it presents, which holds up to multiple interpretations.

Willie's version is more cohesive. The songs all flow together to create the feeling that he’s telling you a story. Carla's version drifts into atmospherics and various styles, becoming more of a performance of the story. Her full-on barn dance version of "I Couldn't Believe It Was True" misses the shock and pain of Willie's acoustic rendering, which is more true to the story. But then, Carla's "Time of the Preacher" Themes are drawn out to expose the horror of the subject, while Willie’s themes just state the story as plain fact.

I felt some minor annoyances when Carla insists on calling the horse a "bay pony" instead of just a "bay" during the “Yellow Haired Lady” part of the tale, wrecking both the meter and the rhyme of the song. And her take on "Down Yonder" is tossed off like Sonic Youth's take on the Simpson's theme while Willie, or his sister Bobbie actually, makes this song a old-timey saloon piano rag that puts you in the time and place of the story. Then the stupid whistling at the end of Carla’s "Can I Sleep in Your Arms" undercuts any emotion the song has built.

But I'm being hypercritical. Carla and Nels seem to play up the mental instability of the preacher and make the story darker and creepier. And it works, it is after all the story of broken-hearted preacher going on a killing spree, and that's pretty dark. Willie offered redemption to the preacher, through the piano hymn “Just As I Am” and then through finding a new love. But Carla doesn’t seem to match Willie’s sincerity on the second halves of the albums. The duets with Willie are strained, but duets with Willie often are. He's pretty much in his own world when it comes to singing.

So, the overall effect of listening to both albums is like sitting around a campfire and having an old cowboy tell you a story with his guitar, then wandering off into the desert and seeing an Indian Shaman do an interpretive dance of the same story. You get a completely different feeling from it. The story has already been told and this time through, the emphasis is not on the words/songs themselves, but on an interpretation and performance of them.

BrianB, Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:31 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
wow...didn't know yall were closet fibber fans...i used to whine and cry on this board about the gf,thinking i was preachin to the deaf...silly post about the kevin and kieth conspiracy...didn't even know what ellipsis meant at the time...kevin and kieth have my blessing...i think kieth is starting to see him as an equal creative partner...equal,or even greater than the zoborotnik brothers,and that is enough to move me to tears.i didn't think carla would ever be the same without kevin.and of course,she won't....she'll be bigger and better and meaner and uglier than ever.and pretty.rhs is a masterpiece,,,i didn't want to like it.i'm a very finicky bozulite...and the meanest of the bunch.....i was never big on ethyl meatplow..(about 2 songs..).i only like about a third of butch...scarnella had it's moments but it was mostly pretty uncertain...i thought carla was really losing it...see,we've been waiting for three (%^&*ing) years for rhs to land.....and i only picked up my copy two days ago...i was like...'oh,pity...poor carla...she's lost her craft...bye bye,ms b....bye bye',....BOY WAS I WRONG.................boy,was i wrong....sincerely,ashamed and ambiguously attributed to chas the

geee...., Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

Carla's putting together an EP of live recordings from last year's tour (some RHH stuff, some Fibbers stuff, and assorted covers), which I think will be commercially available soon, I'll see if I can dig up more info to post.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 21:47 (twenty years ago) link

are you talking about the stuff she did at the fez...the one that's in the audio (birdcage) section of c~com???the recordings on that don't do it justice...but i guess that the intention was for them to be completely neutral...every thing sounds very bland...especially her voice unless you drench it with eq...and wear headphones...lillybelle was my favorite.it's really bursting open...behind all that lo fi injustice.....unfortunately she took down the version of hands on the wheel that she did in texas,or arizona..whadeva...it rivals the one on the album...tho...ending applause is really stupid,and unconvincing,and again...lousy fidelity.so,viva fidel.ahoy...ok,bye

george the speorge, Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
the EP I was talking about, "I'm Gonna Stop Killing", is out next week, 50 minutes of assorted live recordings from the RHH tours. Carla and Nels have been playing Marianne Faithful's "Times Square" for years, it's a really beautiful cover, I'm glad it's finally being released officially.

http://www.midheaven.com/labels/dichristina.html

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

saw them at ATP in LA last year--great, passionate set. never got into GF but can't wait to hear the red-headed stranger remake. Nels Cline was indeed a treat.

ben tausig (datageneral), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

So, Carla Bozulich, the most amazing woman in Los Angeles. Has anyone heard Evangelista and been wowed by it?

Just can't let a good Carla Bozulich thread die.

http://www.carlabozulich.com/Evangelistasongclips.html

humansuit, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

She opened for Wilco here some weeks ago, got totally ignored by the audience and got quite pissed off about it, then irritated that she got pissed off and blamed it on a friend being ill.
I can sort of understand the audience, because she played mostly stuff from evangelista, which aside from the earth-shattering cover of "Pissing" seems quite soundscape-y bland. Then after the gig she came up to the front, and I started cheering her on, but then noticed she seemed quite upset and my cheering felt out of place. Which was weird.
So now I'm on a carla bozulich-binge, playing all geraldine fibbers/solo stuff and even reconsidering Evangelista (or at least steal away and prince of the world and how to survive...)

barnaby, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, even though, as this thread proves, I'm a ridiculously big fan of Bozulich/the Fibbers, I really didn't like Evangelista much and have little desire to see her perform that material live, I'm kinda waiting for her to move onto her next phase or sound. I made a megamix of my favorite Carla stuff a few months ago, I really love how it turned out:

disc 1: original works

1. The Geraldine Fibbers - "The Small Song"
2. Carla Bozulich - "Here Comes Another One" (demo)
3. Ethyl Meatplow - "Ripened Peach"
4. Scarnella - "The Most Useless Thing"
5. Carla Bozulich - "Lonesome Roads"
6. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Seven Or In 10"
7. The Geraldine Fibbers - "234"
8. The Night Porter - "Monkeys"
9. Scarnella - "Dandelions"
10. Carla Bozulich - "Blue Boys"
11. Mike Watt - "Sidemouse Advice"
12. Ches Smith/Carla Bozulich - "Elements Ascending"
13. Two Dollar Guitar - "Bozo Shoes"
14. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Richard"
15. Scarnella - "Untitled New Song"
16. Carla Bozulich with John Talaga - "1014C"
17. Carla Bozulich - "Prince Of The World"
18. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Lilybelle"
19. The Geraldine Fibbers - "The Smaller Song"

disc 2: interpretive works

1. Mike Watt - "Tuff Gnarl" (Sonic Youth)
2. Scarnella - "Hot Pants (She Got To Use What She Got To Get What She Wants)" (James Brown)
3. Ethyl Meatplow - "Close To You" (Bacharach & David)
4. Carla Bozulich - "On The Nickel" (Tom Waits)
5. Scarnella - "I Thought About You" (Johnny Mercer)
6. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Jolene" (Dolly Parton)
7. The Geraldine Fibbers - "If Drinkin' Don't Kill Me" (George Jones)
8. The Geraldine Fibbers - "He Stopped Loving Her Today" (George Jones)
9. The Geraldine Fibbers - "The Grand Tour" (George Jones)
10. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Hands On The Wheel" (Jerry Jeff/Billy Callery)
11. Carla Bozulich featuring Willie Nelson - "Can I Sleep In Your Arms?" (Jeannie Seely)
12. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Pills" (New York Dolls)
13. The Scott Amendola Band - "Masters Of War" (Bob Dylan)
14. Carla Bozulich - "Pissing" (Low)
15. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Yoo Doo Right" (Can)
16. Carla Bozulich - "Running Dry (Requiem For The Rockets)" (Neil Young)
17. Scarnella - "Times Square" (Marianne Faithful)

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link

where'd you get all those Fibbers' covers from - live stuff? bootlegs?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

That mix seems swell for my binge :) Is it up anywhere?

barnaby, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

most of them are from What Part Of Get Thee Gone Don't You Understand? (plus "Yoo Doo Right" from Butch) but "He Stopped Loving Her Today" is a live mp3 I came across years and years ago.

(xpost I posted some mp3s of on my blog last year but the links are all expired by now. if there's enough demand I might re-upload some stuff for people here, though)

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I would be very interested in that Alex and furthermore if you'd be willing I could send you a couple bucks and you could send me the mix provided ONE you don't come hack my family to death with an axe once you get my name and address and TWO you admit that I am the small cat.

humansuit, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Hello, Voyager?

hello?

fandango, Monday, 26 May 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9212/292coverko5.jpg

fandango, Monday, 26 May 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Red Headed Stranger is one of my favorite albums of the decade, but I've never really been able to get into Evangelista.

Eppy, Monday, 26 May 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Go Carla!

I saw Evangelista last month. They were great. Saw guitarist Ava Mendozza's other band Mute Socialite (featuring ex-Sleepytime Gorilla Museum drummer Moe! Staino) just a few days ago.

I've been stalking Carla for years. Ethyl Meatplow, Geraldine Fibbers (x5), Scarnella, Red Headed Stranger, in-stores. I can never get enough of her voice or charm.

I actually brought her flowers at a Fibbers show once. She did not marry me though :(

Nate Carson, Monday, 26 May 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

disc 2: interpretive works

1. Mike Watt - "Tuff Gnarl" (Sonic Youth)
2. Scarnella - "Hot Pants (She Got To Use What She Got To Get What She Wants)" (James Brown)
3. Ethyl Meatplow - "Close To You" (Bacharach & David)
4. Carla Bozulich - "On The Nickel" (Tom Waits)
5. Scarnella - "I Thought About You" (Johnny Mercer)
6. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Jolene" (Dolly Parton)
7. The Geraldine Fibbers - "If Drinkin' Don't Kill Me" (George Jones)
8. The Geraldine Fibbers - "He Stopped Loving Her Today" (George Jones)
9. The Geraldine Fibbers - "The Grand Tour" (George Jones)
10. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Hands On The Wheel" (Jerry Jeff/Billy Callery)
11. Carla Bozulich featuring Willie Nelson - "Can I Sleep In Your Arms?" (Jeannie Seely)
12. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Pills" (New York Dolls)
13. The Scott Amendola Band - "Masters Of War" (Bob Dylan)
14. Carla Bozulich - "Pissing" (Low)
15. The Geraldine Fibbers - "Yoo Doo Right" (Can)
16. Carla Bozulich - "Running Dry (Requiem For The Rockets)" (Neil Young)
17. Scarnella - "Times Square" (Marianne Faithful)

Any chance you could Leonardo this?

C0L1N B..., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't have all those trax on my computer right now, maybe if I have the time this weekend I'll try and rip/upload what I need to. I haven't listened to Hello Voyager much lately but the Evangelista show I saw a couple months ago was awesome, I might have to see them again when they swing back through the area in a couple months.

some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks. Even just the George Jones ones and "Hands on the Wheel" (which I'm assuming is different than the solo RHS one) would be great.

C0L1N B..., Wednesday, 18 June 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll just pop in here and say that the new Evangelista record is really, really good. Intense stuff.

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah that "Hands On The Wheel" (and most of the other Fibbers c&w covers) are from What Part Of Get Thee Gone Don't You Understand?, except "He Stopped Loving Her Today," that's a live mp3 I came across.

some dude, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I forgot about all this!

admrl, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Evangelista was hot at their recent pdx show. Carla has my undying love dating back to the Ethyl Meatplow show I was fortunate to catch in '94.

Also caught Evangelista guitarist Ava Mendoza's project Mute Socialite (with Moe! Staino ex-Sleepytime Gorilla Museum) not long afterwards. Their track "Killing Time" gets stuck in my head for days and days.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean not long after the Evangelista show, not the Meatplow one...

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i recently heard the evangelista song 'the blue room'. can anyone recommend songs/albums/material like this in carla bozulich's discography? her output seems pretty large and varied so i don't really know where to begin....

LaMonte, Saturday, 2 August 2008 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Blue Room" is the one song on the new album that features Nels Cline, and it's not too different from a number of previous Carla/Nels collaborations, mainly the Geraldine Fibbers' Butch, the self-titled Scarnella album and her live solo EP I'm Gonna Stop Killing. The Scarnella probably has the most stuff that's close to that particular song's vibe.

some dude, Saturday, 2 August 2008 04:34 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

You guys know about the new one?

http://www.cstrecords.com/releases/cst061

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i mentioned it in passing on the Rolling Nels Cline Thread and i saw Whiney blurb it on his twitter, but since the release date's still a few weeks off i have not heard it. excited, though, Hello Voyager was great.

radio k3ller (some dude), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a track up on that linked page - The Slayer! Sounds great.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Great news! Was only listening to Hello, Voyager again last night.

They were just devastating live.

fndgo, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I just discovered this record and I love it. Can anyone recommend anything recent that has a similar feel?

blagobu, Sunday, 8 May 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

have you heard the the follow-up EP I'm Gonna Stop Killing or the Geraldine Fibbers' first album Lost Somewhere Between The Earth And My Home? those are probably the closest things Carla's done.

as for other artists, I'd recommend Eleni Mandell, probably starting with Miracle of Five (which Nels Cline also plays on)

lilsoulbrotherlovesdubplatestyle (some dude), Sunday, 8 May 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for the suggestions. I've already been checking out Carla's other work. I'll give Eleni Mandella listen. I'm looking for more recent stuff.

blagobu, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 10:45 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

new Evangelista is v good all around -

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61OQ029JjtL._SS500_.jpg

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 25 September 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

thanks for bumping the thread! didn't know the album even existed before this morning and now i'm listening to and enjoying it

some dude, Sunday, 25 September 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

nice!!

yeah hey everyone else, it's streaming in full at the Constellation site -

http://cstrecords.com/inanimaltongue

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Sunday, 25 September 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

also on spotify, which was a pleasant surprise

some dude, Sunday, 25 September 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

haven't given this my undivided attention yet, but after a couple of plays it sounded like their best one yet

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

I've always had to make an effort to get into her Evangelista material, but it's usually worth it. However, the first time I put on Lost Somewhere... I fell in love immediately. God, I miss the Fibbers.

thinveneer, Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the Fibbers were so amazing that i'll listen to anything Carla does for the rest of her life, although sometimes it's hard to not keep comparing the new stuff to that bad. i like that Evangelista is very much its own thing now, though, i kinda never thought i'd see the day when she kept with the same project for 4 albums straight. Hello Voyager is definitely my favorite but this new one is good too.

some dude, Monday, 26 September 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Thoughts on Boy?

I think it's amazing. Her best work yet.

Frozen_Warnings, Saturday, 8 March 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link

oh man, I didn't know this was out, thanks for reviving this thread!

'her best work' is a really really high bar to meet for me personally, but it's definitely good, feels like it goes off in a different direction from the Evangelista stuff that's kind of exciting and unexpected. "Lazy Crossbones" sounds like the immediate standout for me.

some dude, Sunday, 9 March 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link

Boy probably deserves a thread of its own. People need to hear it. Drowned To the Light and Danceland are my standouts but there's really not a bad track on it.

Frozen_Warnings, Sunday, 9 March 2014 13:10 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOkCu_hbN_A

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 08:41 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

New album 'Quieter' is fabulous.

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link

gotta hear this, big fan of evangelista etc

transcendental headache (Ross), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

A Twitter comment the other month from Christina Carter about Evangelista and its brilliance made me realize that she really still hasn't gotten her due, has she. So for Shfl, I did this:

https://theshfl.com/guide/carla-bozulich

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 May 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

yayyyy

just did a relisten of the full Fibbers catalog and god damn is that some top tier stuff, Evangelista was next on my list!

thinkmanship (sleeve), Monday, 23 May 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link


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