Our full length, "The Hold Steady Almost Killed Me," will be out in 2004.
nuff said
― Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link
I haven't seen them, but the one MP3 I heard sounded pretty much exactly like Lifter Puller....is this a pretty accurate assesment of the band?
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:46 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
By the way, I know the guy that produced Half-Dead and he has about 6-7 outtakes from that album that never came out anywhere else that are frickin' amazing and as good as anything on the album....I don't think they came out, although I don't have all the singles.
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:55 (twenty years ago) link
This is my most eagerly anticipated CD in a long, long time.
― Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link
and i'll have to agree about the self-parody thing. i really really want to like the hold steady demos i've heard, but it just sounds like craig's found a lyrical rut that he REALLY likes.
― Mason R Butler, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link
I saw the Hold Steady a little while ago. Bar-bandy I guess is a good description. It's more classic rock than LP, dual Telecasters, rock guitars sans effects. The old LP bass player plays guitar and he rips. They started the set with a sort-of history thing about each decade from the '20s on that was incredible, it gave me chills. It was the best rock show I've seen all year.
― scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 00:40 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 01:03 (twenty years ago) link
― scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link
Can you tell me about the lyrics on the HS album? Is Finn still spinning interelated tales and characters from his own private fictional Minneapolis nitelife? Or has he moved on? That was always one of my favorite things about him, his sense of place and the way his little sordid short stories always seemed to interconnect....
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 17:22 (twenty years ago) link
― scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 17:42 (twenty years ago) link
― typo acapulco (gcannon), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 17:44 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.thebrokerdealer.net/
has some mp3 of this interesting side project
― Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:13 (twenty years ago) link
― scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:19 (twenty years ago) link
"T.R.O.N.C.D. (They Reminisce Over Night Club Dwight)"
sound like a hit to me.
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link
― scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link
― scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:31 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link
I don't know any!
― scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link
No, it's not.
The only ones I can think of offhand are Shaun Ryder or Mark E. Smith.
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 13 November 2003 00:48 (twenty years ago) link
1. Positive Jam2. The Swish3. Barfruit Blues4. Most People Are DJs5. Certain Songs6. Knuckles7. Hostile, Mass.8. Sketchy Metal9. Sweet Payne10. Killer Parties
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 13 November 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link
OMG I've got the first seven songs!! the first two are really exciting!! there are two tracks on this guys blog, one of them isn't The Swish http://ihatemyself44.blogspot.com/ OMG!!
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 23 November 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
"She said it's good to see you back in a bar band, baby. i said it's great to see you're still in the bars"
Still pending the last three songs.. the wait is killing me
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Monday, 24 November 2003 00:12 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 November 2003 01:55 (twenty years ago) link
― adam (adam), Monday, 24 November 2003 02:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:34 (twenty years ago) link
A Hold Steady bottle opener plus a new album...
The Hold Steady's new album Teeth Dreams is now available for pre-order via theholdsteady.net. Fans who take advantage of the pre-order sales will be rewarded with the option of purchasing a variety of limited edition items, including The Limited Edition Custom Wood Box Bundle containing the CD, a gold foil limited edition vinyl, The Hold Steady bottle opener, an exclusive photo taken by the band, a t-shirt and a hooded sweatshirt. Only 300 of these have been manufactured. Another package offers the gold foil vinyl with a CD, sweathshirt and t-shirt, while another has combination of the vinyl or the CD with a choice of three shirts or the sweatshirt. Copies of the vinyl and CD can be also be ordered individually. There will be 1,000 gold foil vinyl albums available only via the pre-order sale. It will not be available in stores.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link
Cool, I like opening bottles and listening to The Hold Steady!
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEVTMn5Ui3o
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:27 (ten years ago) link
i wonder if they are able to recover from the slump that was their last record
― nostormo, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link
or the Finn solo for that matter
― nostormo, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
I liked the last record, and the Craig Finn solo too for that matter. The one I hated was Stay Positive.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:15 (ten years ago) link
those keyboards in the trailer make this sound like some 70s classic-rock throwback. i kinda like it.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 00:43 (ten years ago) link
I thought the Finn solo was really good, to be honest. Liked the last THS album, too - opened up several directions for them to go in. Question is which one they take …
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 10:23 (ten years ago) link
How about a LifterPuller direction
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link
new song:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-hold-steady-return-with-big-rock-aspirations-on-teeth-dreams-20140123
― Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
it kinda sounds like color and the shape era foo fighters musically but craig's doing a more cryptic street story lifter puller style in the verses which i like
― Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
I listen to Finn's solo album more than any given HS album lately, but storytelling songwriting + pedal steel is pretty much directly up my alley.
Hated the last album, not really feeling that new song. Same problem I had with the last album (and when I saw the band live a couple of years ago) - no groove, much more emphasis on multiple guitars and layers. I like Finn's songs so I'd rather they have more room for the lyrics.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 10 February 2014 05:34 (ten years ago) link
New album sounds like Graham Parker and the E Street Band.
― MV, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 04:45 (ten years ago) link
this new album is streaming on itunes radio, but i don't know how to link to it. first single, which apparently has been out for awhile?
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 20:41 (ten years ago) link
how does it sound? song i heard sounded weird and muddy in terms of mix
― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 March 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link
They kinda duplicate themselves at rhis point
― nostormo, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
i never got into separation sunday so i guess i could do that too
― markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link
not liking separation sunday as much as stay positive kinda breaks my brain so yeah you should check that one again
but this one is a step back in the right direction, i think there's some good songs but yeah just odd production, so muddy and it kind of buries Finn's vox which is sort the whole point of the band
― Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:34 (ten years ago) link
well, what i meant to say is that, like, i'm not sure i've even heard it? i might've, but i never really spent much time with it. will do so though.
― markers, Monday, 14 April 2014 23:45 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, the first two albums really tower above everything since.
― keep calm and nahkchivan (how's life), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
i love the first one cuz it's basically half a new lifter puller record and half a hold steady record, but i guess separation sunday is probably the best because they more fully became themselves on that one and it's by far (IMHO) the greatest and most realized version of finn's whole interconnected fictional minneapolis drug/music scene mythology
― Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
man the production on this sucks sooo bad! man what a fuckin bummer― Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:24
― Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 April 2014 23:24
^^^The most baffling, all-time, world-class suck-ass production I have heard in a long, long time. I don't like the songs. I don't like the singing. And Separation Sunday is sometimes my favorite album of the past ten years.
― Inty Tyga Et La Tyga Loma (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 00:29 (ten years ago) link
I don't feel like the production is that awful. It's not great, for sure and I wish a few things were done differently, but I also don't hear the absolute disaster you people are hearing.
I'd say there are about 4-5 songs on here worth saving. Still a disappointment but, yeah, a step back in the right direction. "Oaks" kind of slays me.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 01:51 (ten years ago) link
the production has grown on me.
― purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 03:05 (ten years ago) link
Another vote for awful, awful production. When you can't tell what Craig Finn is saying more than 50% of the time, there's a fundamental problem.I don't think there are "I'm not that into lyrics, really" people that listen to The Hold Steady.
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 08:20 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, it's definitely muddy and he's buried more in the mix than I'd like, but I had absolutely no problem making out his lyrics throughout the whole thing.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link
It just has a "dude our friend has a craxkedy copy of pro tools he'll totally record us at his house" vibe
― Juelz Fantano (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link
Man this guy can't sing
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
and you can't post
― markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn.niketalk.com/d/de/def72e19_wee-bey-gif.gif
― waterbabies (waterface), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link
TOO REAL
― markers, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link
I don't think there are "I'm not that into lyrics, really" people that listen to The Hold Steady.
You know, I am that type of person and yet I love this band. I don't really listen to lyrics until multiple upon multiple repeat listens and there are songs that I consider all-time favorites that I don't know the words. I was initially drawn in by Franz Nicolay's keyboards, but Finn's reference-heavy lyrics, multi-album narratives and conversational vocals force you to pay attention to what he's saying.
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link
Anyway, think the album is ok, there aren't any songs that really stick out except for the first and last, and Finn's vocals are buried in the mix. The lack of Nicolay still hurts, but Kubler and Selvidge seem to work well together and I have more hope that they have another classic in them than I did after Heaven is Whenever.
Saw them last night, and for what it's worth the new songs sound much, much better live and blend nicely into the set (same for the few Heaven is Whenever tracks that they play). The set drew most from Boys & Girls in America, and there was a huge five or six song encore ending with Constructive Summer, Stay Positive, and (of course) Killer Parties.
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 08:41 (nine years ago) link
"Oaks" is amazing, their Stairway to Heaven
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 12:57 (nine years ago) link
Ages ago, when I interviewed Zeppelin, I got Plant, Page and Jones to autograph a copy of IV for Tad Kubler, being as I know THS from having championed them so much. In return, I asked, could they maybe play one song I've never heard them do next time they were in London. So last week I suggested Milkcrate Mosh. No sign of it in the set last night. That's it. They're dead to me.
Seriously though, great show last night. Fantastic to see them in a small room again.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
3 song spotify sessions up today w.2 non album tracks
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link
Have they ever played Milkcrate Mosh? I saw a couple of their early shows but I don't ever remember them doing it. Great tune, though - and they cover "Hey Hey a What Can I Do" on the b-side of the 7"!
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
i heard they finally got some discipline
― purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 02:05 (nine years ago) link
This seems to be the nearest we have to a general Hold Steady thread and I didn't want to start a new thread just for the new album. Anyway it's great, a definite step up from the last two, looser and with more of that bar-band feel. Finn is back on top form as a lyricist as well.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 30 August 2019 08:37 (four years ago) link
new one is indeed very good
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 30 August 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link
The one that popped up in my new song recommendations seemed overly wordy even for Finn.
I haven't had a great urge to listen to his solo stuff (when I quit drinking I lost the taste for both whiskey and white guys with acoustic guitars) but that really seems to be his wheelhouse these days.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 31 August 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link
i think if anything his lyrics are more pared down on this album
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link
I like the noir/crime direction of some of the new songs, especially The Stove and the Toaster. Also dig, in a really different way, Finn’s solo album from earlier this year.
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
I honestly think that Boys and Girls in America is one of my favorite albums ever by anyone. Yet, despite spending quality time with other Hold Steady and Craig Finn solo records, none of them really grab me. Am I doing this wrong?
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link
kinda with you on that
― mookieproof, Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
i think it’s completely understandable, hooks and writing really came together on that record. separation sunday will always be my fav but boys and girls was the only album in the world for me when it came out other than br*nd n*w’s the devil and god are raging inside me
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
separation sunday is the best by far
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
Stay Positive for me, it was just the right amount of anthemic before the album after that went too poor man's Springsteen. A mix CD I made that was equal parts BGIA, Separation Sunday and Stay Positive was the one that stayed in my truck for years, though.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 1 September 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link
I have no recollection of the last time I heard SS this decade, but it lives in my memory. This is their best since Stay Positive
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 September 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, August 31, 2019 4:03 PM (five hours ago)
boys and girls is my fav too
(I'm a science fiction partisan these days tho)
― k3vin k., Sunday, 1 September 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link
i *do* like the warm feeling and i *am* tired of all the dehydration
― mookieproof, Sunday, 1 September 2019 02:53 (four years ago) link
You've been drunk, but have you been John Berryman on the BBC drunk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGIr7fGdo6o
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 1 September 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link
Guess I need to re-evaluate everything after ...Almost Killed Me because I figured it was their only album I needed to hear. Granted, I've barely paid attention to much other than Boys and Girls in America. Everything I heard only made me want to go back to the first, so I never dug as hard on any of the others.
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
The band occasionally stopped futzing around to fine-tune the song. It is archetypal Hold Steady. Big classic-rock riff? Check. Propulsive, E Street-style piano? Check. Sad/funny lyrics (about moving to California just to find it’s all “disinterested kissing”)? Check.
From Washington Post article
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/after-16-years-the-hold-steady-is-changing-the-business-of-being-in-a-band/2019/08/28/956d9f04-c297-11e9-b72f-b31dfaa77212_story.html
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
Had no idea they did a song for Game of Thrones with zero contemporary references:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgiTB2NFvAM
― ... (Eazy), Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:24 (four years ago) link
Looking into it, I guess the lyrics are actually George R. R. Martin’s.
― ... (Eazy), Sunday, 10 November 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link
From there, to here. From here! To there!She got in a mosh at a hardcore show there
― ☮ (peace, man), Sunday, 10 November 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
Does anyone else really like the new one, Open Door Policy, that came out a few weeks ago?
They do a good job of finding slightly new directions to bend their sound - 'Hanover Camera' has a Steely Dan groove while 'Unpleasant Breakfast' stitches some disparate sections together in a fun way.
I thought Thrashing Through The Passion was a good comeback, and this one's even better.
― aphoristical, Monday, 1 March 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link
I like it, it is even better than Thrashing Thru the Passion, but I was never completely sold on that one - felt more like Hold Steady going through the Hold Steady motion more than anything else. This is hitting the right spot for me. My only complaint is that weird wooing/siren sound effect that runs through "Unpleasant Breakfast" is super obnoxious on headphones, I can't even listen to it.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 March 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link
i'm liking the sounds, but i could've sworn this band used to have choruses
― little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Friday, 5 March 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link
I suspect fans will be interested in the read
https://defector.com/craig-finn-returns-to-the-scene/
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
Seeing them tonight, with some band called (checks website) the Mountain Goats? Something like that. I hadn't caught the HS live for years before I saw them at some festival back in 2018 or something and was reminded that they're great fun. (Also reminded that I started a thread on them back in 2004, which is crazy.)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 June 2023 23:53 (nine months ago) link
I've been listening to Stay Positive, Boys and Girls in America and Separation Sunday a lot this week - so many elements I'd hate in isolation (most of the piano, most of the backing vocals, the way it all kind of sounds like '80s Jersey rock, often Craig Finn's voice) but as a package it all works. (Until the album after Stay Positive when it stopped working completely.)
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 16 September 2023 08:14 (seven months ago) link
have you listened to Almost Killed Me, the first album? that one’s still my hands down favorite.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 September 2023 15:38 (seven months ago) link
yeah that one is weirdly forgottenalso Lifter Puller>>>Hold Steady
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 September 2023 15:41 (seven months ago) link