When listening to music, do heroin or crack dull or enhance the experience?

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I'm guessing that weed and E have been done to death, so here's this. The one time I smoked heroin I think they were playing Warren G. Things began to sound pleasantly underwater and shuffly (maybe this explains the appeal of Luomo) but the vocals by turns started sounding menacing and irritating (like in skateboard videos when the skater's friends go "Ooooohhhh!" in slow motion - which reminds me, I'm fucking SICK of skateboarding as a cultural entity).

Crack I haven't tried, but from what I've gathered (from people I absolutely love to abandon), it's like your senses go from being a sturdy glass bottle to a pop can - lighter but more fragile. Yeah I know glass is more fragile if you DROP it but that's not the point. I imagine that any music listening would be unfocused and frazzled.

Are crack and heroin forever to be excluded from the designer drug realm mainly because they don't exactly go well with music? Or because they make you fugly, fast.

DarrensCoq, Sunday, 14 December 2003 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i haven't done any of these drugs

i did coke once,.. i listened to "white horse"

haha, it was awesome

Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 14 December 2003 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't listen to music on coke. Too busy talking a pile of shit.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 14 December 2003 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah that's one of the reasons I'm not messing with coke these days. I go right for the volume knob so everyone can hear about my plans and emotions. Also, upon ingestion, for about four minutes it gives you the illusion that you really feel like dancing, so you give it a shot, but you're pooped immediately. Who needs that.

DarrensCoq, Sunday, 14 December 2003 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

You have to mix with liquor, silly! Then you can dance.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 14 December 2003 06:51 (twenty-two years ago)

HEROIN IS UGLY AND POINTLESS. IT DOES, HOWEVER, MAKE CERTAIN RECORDS SOUND PRETTY GOOD. STAY AWAY FROM IT THO.

I'VE ONLY DONE CRACK ONCE, AND I REMEMBER HEARING PAUL'S BOUTIQUE - SOUNDED THE SAME TO ME - LIKE SHIT.

NOTHING BEATS BOOOZE, ACID AND WEED FOR MUSIC APPRECIATION. PERIOD.

THO ONLY ONE OF THOSE YIELDS BETTER RECORDS FROM PLAYERS THAT INDULGE HEAVILY.

ANONYMOUSEZEROZERO, Sunday, 14 December 2003 06:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Kenan, my stomach lining is fucked so if I mix alcohol with anything it's not good. Or maybe it's because when I hit the yay I chain-smoke, which slows me right down.

I was gonna start a thread, but i'll do it here, since were talking about dancing: Bad Boy Bill @ Sonar last evening. Bad Boy Bill didn't even stay to finish scheduled set and had his opener, Czech, finish the last half-hour for him. WTF. There was this 50-yr-old German woman dressed like a mod screaming Haaahd Techno! Haaahd Tekno! HAAHHD TEKNO!! all night, which was great. Not so great was realizing I'd been sharing my beer with a girl who had been bleeding onto the rim of the glass after chewing her face off. Yay for hepatitis.

DarrensCoq, Sunday, 14 December 2003 07:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I've smoked up a mountain of stimulants and can assure you that I don't have the slightest inclination to listen to music while cracked.

L'Angelo Speedioso, Sunday, 14 December 2003 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

IF I EVER DO COKE AGAIN I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO HOTLINE BY REGGIE GARNER

NORTHERN SOUL WOULD SOUND SO GOOOD ON COKE

I WOULD LISTEN TO NOTHING BUT A HEARTACHE TOO!!!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 14 December 2003 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

THO ONLY ONE OF THOSE YIELDS BETTER RECORDS FROM PLAYERS THAT INDULGE HEAVILY.

Which one?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 14 December 2003 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd say, using the 'Mats, GBV and Hank Williams Jr (live) as examples, booze.

Tho Royal Trux, The Dead, and Electric Wizard all make very strong cases for the others.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 14 December 2003 07:09 (twenty-two years ago)

fck me even soap operas are tolerable om smack. its distributed free here to make channel 7 seem, uh, not worth getting up to turn off.

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 14 December 2003 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never taken coke, but am I right in assuming that Donald Fagan's 'The Nightfly' is a coke record?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Music sounds unbelieveably fantastic on smack (esp. on headphones. . . I once listened to some incredibly intricate electronic record which I'd always been kind of bored by and it sounded like the most fantastic thing ever.) But gaz is right, pretty much everything (other than sex, I guess) is better on smack. That's why people destroy their entire lives for the stuff.

Who listens to music on crack though?!?!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

When I'm on crack, I listen to "Livin' for the City." And then Samuel L. Jackson sells my TV set and does a little crack dance.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahaha! "I'll do it! You KNOW I'll do it!"

DarrensCoq, Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"I'll suck your dick for two dollars."

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I totally love how in like the last 48 hours ILM has come out of the drugs closet.

Why are MBV so highly regarded?

I will proclaim this from the rooftops:

If you have never gotten stoned and listened to Loveless you are missing out in a way you cannot possibly understand!

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Sunday, 14 December 2003 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

hook me up!

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 14 December 2003 09:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah Nihilist, I've done the Loveless thing but on a tab. If I recall correctly, Mark R. from Pitchfork told me a long time ago about doing the same, and he pretty much had the experience dialed. Texturally the album became way sharper and took on the effect of 'floating'. I noticed that I was able to differentiate each layer of sound from each other far better than with sober ears. It was pretty epic.

DarrensCoq, Sunday, 14 December 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh, I have plans to listen to Loveless stoned very soon.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 14 December 2003 09:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Confluence alert. Last night there was this incredibly handsome Taiwanese guy in the upstairs lounge that could have pulled any girl there. Too bad he was dancing EXACTLY like Belinda Butcher in the "Soon" video (which I've also made fun of). Right down to the lesbian-interpretive-dance-party "flowerpot" hand moves and the A-frame squat with the legs. He was doing this while hard, dirty oldschool hiphop breaks were playing.

DarrensCoq, Sunday, 14 December 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)

uhhh, drugs are bad, you shouldn't do drugs, cause drugs are bad...

Jole, Sunday, 14 December 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

That 'Hotline' song is so so so good. So, does cocaine work well in Northern Soul clubs?

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Monday, 15 December 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

no Jole, you shouldn't do drugs because they're illegal cause they're bad cause they're illegal

oops (Oops), Monday, 15 December 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate waking up right when it's getting dark. It's 5:15 Pacific Time right now, ten minutes after sleeping for six hours, my first sleep in fifty-one hours. Work tommorrow is gonna be emotional if nothing else.

DarrensCoq, Monday, 15 December 2003 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Crack and smack have no effect on how much I enjoy music. Alcohol seems to polarize my reaction to one extreme or the other. Weed makes it alllll goooood. (weed sux!)

Aaron A., Monday, 15 December 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Murder by Death sounds great on ex, which seems totally counterintuitive.

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Monday, 15 December 2003 06:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Vice once did an article on songs to listen to while doing blow. It made me want to try it.

may pang (maypang), Monday, 15 December 2003 06:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh, I have plans to listen to Loveless stoned very soon.

Can I come? Or is it more of an intimate gathering?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 15 December 2003 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

haha: listening to music stoned by yourself vs listening to music stoned in company

gaz (gaz), Monday, 15 December 2003 06:38 (twenty-two years ago)

This is super embarrassing but, just last night I downloaded Dark Side of the Moon, so I could do the Wizard of Oz thing, Adn i am not a Pink Floyd fan, but I do get it in it's place. So I come home from a party, get really stoned, which I NEVER do, and you can imagine the outcome. I kept thinking about starting a thread about how much fucking fun it was but then I passed out with my hand in a bag of Doritos.

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Monday, 15 December 2003 06:42 (twenty-two years ago)

CLASSIC!

gaz (gaz), Monday, 15 December 2003 06:45 (twenty-two years ago)

You need to get stoned and listen to this instead:

http://www.thesquirrels.com/mooncover.jpeg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 06:46 (twenty-two years ago)

astonishing!

gaz (gaz), Monday, 15 December 2003 06:47 (twenty-two years ago)

THAT IT IS

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to love to listen to Loveless on a tab or two. Did too many in my time, though. I'd at least need a Tab 25 for that shit now. And then I'd need LSD with my Tab 25.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Monday, 15 December 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

the first time i got stoned i listened to "dark side of the moon" on some NICE headphones, and as my mind was being blown my friend turned on the light RIGHT as the band comes in on "breathe" and i thought i was having a revelation or something

jkjkjk, Monday, 15 December 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

My best friend never liked Radiohead 'til I forced him to listen to Hail to the Thief one night while he was on one of his coke benders and since then they've become one of his favorite bands. He has now seen them in concert twice and owns all their proper albums. And has quit the coca thank god.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Heroin and crack are two of the few things I've not tried and don't intend to EVER.

However Amon Tobin's Supermodified is a great album to listen to while smoking opium, fwiw.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess I didn't answer the actual question though, huh? Shocker.

Anyway, my guess is that it has a lot to do with the music being listened to. Like, heroin as an opiate would probably not necessarily enhance a Slayer listening session, and crack as a stimulant probably wouldn't create a great neurochemical setting in which to listen to Miles Davis' In a Silent Way.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm still awed at the usage of the phrase "I did coke once" (emphasis mine).

nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, maybe it wasn't around after that.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)


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