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I'm at work and can't install any unauthorized software. Anyone else grabbed it yet? Please tell me it's better than v.3.

(was there ever a v.4?)

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you write wav files with it?

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

(haha, sorry, just wanting to get down to the bottom line)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

answer: it is stupidly amazing

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

what's in then?

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

- media library that doesn't 'organize' files in the same hamfisted way that itunes does but offers all sorts of customizability and tweakability
- play counts, 'smart' playlists
- fully integrated cd-r stuff
- tons of visualization tweaks if that's your kind of thing

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

it's the media library that really sells it for me though

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

- fully integrated cd-r stuff

Meaning, I can choose to write wav files from encode ones? (Just seeing if there's a reason to go beyond 2.9, das all)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Super clean faceplate, which is all I care about. I avoided skins and stayed on 2.something because of this. This one is nice, simple, and usable.

DarrensCoq, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

can you elaborate db?

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you create CoolAssSong.wav (at any variety of parameters) from CoolAssSong.mp3 or CoolAssSong.m4a, etc.?

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The "pro" features (including cd ripping and burning) cost $14.95, db.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

:(

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

For file conversion (and ripping, as well), I use Quintessential Player...it's free

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

db, you could do that with 2.x already, so I'd assume so.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I use dbPowerAmp for file conversion, it's free and you can do .ra files into .wav

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I know, I was just hoping for a reason to upgrade from 2.9x.. but looks like, minus $15, there isn't a big reason.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

(I guess it doesn't matter, since I'd just have to use another app, and maybe WinAmp 5 is DA NEXT LEVEL)

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

is it as fast? that's the whole point of winamp for me. It starts up instantly when I click on a file.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

The only reason I use the Q Player is because it has a LAME encoder plugin. Either Winamp doesn't, or I'm just looking in the wrong places.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Just got it this morning after seeing it on slashdot...it's my new favorite player out there for windows, no doubt. Supposedly it has the engine of 2.x and the customisability of 3.x. The music library is much improved and very easy to use...controls seem intuitive. Fast, comes with a bunch of pre-installed color schemes. Listening to Talkie Walkie on it right now...

Berkeley Sackett (calstars), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Let me put it another way:

WINMP 5 ROKS1!!11!! OMG LOL

Berkeley Sackett (calstars), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)

spencer winamp5 is just as fast as winamp 2.x, which is a major major selling point for me as well

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

is there any benefit to 5 over 2x if you're using the lite version?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

db i'm confused! winamp v2.x is already able to convert mp3s to wavs...

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Winamp 5 is sooooo good. Tons of options, fast as hell, a library to die for, uses about eight times less memory than iTunes (and it doesn't start system services that keep running after you close the program), global hotkeys!, a fantastic "small console" (with a progress bar!), support for old skins (but the new one is fabulous, just try stretching it a bit, new buttons pop up everywhere, scaling options, opacity...). CD ripping/burning is available in the free version btw, only with limited speed though. Great video support too. If only they'd make a Mac port...

The only thing lacking is a good off-line support for mp3 collections, ie catalog MP3 cd's, and maybe better file name/directory support as a supplement to id3 tags but I'm willing to bet someone will come up with a plugin for the library to correct that.

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The TV station listing in Winamp 5 just about sums up the internet too.
Porn, Radiohead, porn, The Simpsons, porn, bad homemade crap, porn, "too many users", porn, J-Pop.

Øystein H-O (Øystein H-O), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

db i'm confused! winamp v2.x is already able to convert mp3s to wavs...

Exactly. which is why I'm still on 2.9x, and not, oh say, Winamp 3. Or 4 (obv, since apparently they mysteriously skipped a number).

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

but didn't winamp 3 do that too? why would they remove features from newer releases?

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

nb: winamp 3 was based on an entirely different engine or something and is generally considered by everyone (including the developers) to be a bit of a turkey. the impetus for winamp 5 was to marry the functionality of winamp v2.x with the promised bells and whistles of winamp v3 hence 2+3 = 5

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

what about the performance ? version 3 really ate the processor.

kevin brady (groeuvre), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I still can't tell any difference b/w 2x and 5lite. Is there one?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

anthony, with all due respect, try reading the thread!

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

why would they remove features from newer releases?

to make money!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp (2 + 3) = Winamp 5

Hence the missing Winamp 4.

...and it's sweet, yeah. Winamp 3 was horrible, but I've moved to 5 and will never look back. All the old skins and plugins work (from v.2 anyway)

blutroniq (blutroniq), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

All the old skins and plugins work (from v.2 anyway)
In which case the DiskWriter plugin would work and you'd be able to convert most formats to wav. No?

kdjfe, Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Does it play OGG files? (That was the main reason why I switched to QCD.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Does it play OGG files?

People actually still encode OGG files?!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:59 (twenty-two years ago)

(btw, there's an ogg plugin, I believe)

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 18 December 2003 06:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(Hooray)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 18 December 2003 06:00 (twenty-two years ago)

People actually still encode OGG files?!

Yes. I encode all my media to OGG because it's a far superior format to MP3.

Winamp supports OGG natively AFAIK.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)

(the 'lite' version of 2.x didn't, though)

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes. I encode all my media to OGG because it's a far superior format to MP3.

Eh, as long as you encode your mp3s with LAME, the quality difference is minimal. In addition, mp3's ID3 tags are easier to edit than OGG's cumbersome tags and the mp3 format has an unlimited amount of applications designed specifically for it.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 18 December 2003 06:07 (twenty-two years ago)

nine years pass...

Pour one out for the llama.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/20/5126666/winamp-media-player-shutting-down-after-over-15-years

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:35 (twelve years ago)

I still use WinAmp as the main music player on my PC.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:39 (twelve years ago)

I do too.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:42 (twelve years ago)

like 2 days ago i noticed that winamp was installed on my phone so i uninstalled it

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

I love that I started this thread ten years ago, meaning the app never moved past version 5.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:44 (twelve years ago)

rip

I have a friend who works at Kroger (Matt P), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)

loved u 3.x

I have a friend who works at Kroger (Matt P), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)

sorry you felt left out treeship, that's pretty rough

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 November 2013 04:00 (twelve years ago)

so many memories.. i can't believe you can't save equalizer settings on VLC and have to re-set the damn thing every time. WinAmp had that function a decade ago. RIP.

piscesx, Thursday, 21 November 2013 04:00 (twelve years ago)

it's ok xp

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Thursday, 21 November 2013 04:00 (twelve years ago)

i loved how small black and clicky looking everything was, reminded me of my sony boombox from ca. 1992.

✓B (Matt P), Thursday, 21 November 2013 04:37 (twelve years ago)

m3us forever

✓B (Matt P), Thursday, 21 November 2013 04:37 (twelve years ago)

i believe i had that same ok computer skin. *searches for winamp skins on altavista*

✓B (Matt P), Thursday, 21 November 2013 04:41 (twelve years ago)

will keep using it for the time being as i haven't found anything better, but what windows alternatives are there that should be investigated?

― kel's vintage port (electricsound), Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:08 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the best: http://www.foobar2000.org/

brimstead, Thursday, 21 November 2013 05:53 (twelve years ago)

ouch @ them still having the alien icon.

mediamonkey is good, 25 bucks for the features you want.

itunes pretty great on apple computers obviously.

✓B (Matt P), Thursday, 21 November 2013 06:03 (twelve years ago)

brimstead otm foobar is the only player. infinitely customizable, no flash. much luv 4 hi school dayz w the llama's ass but i'm not sure there was any reason to use it past 2.x

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 21 November 2013 06:32 (twelve years ago)

itunes is a prank

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 21 November 2013 06:33 (twelve years ago)

i remember trying so hard to excuse winamp 3 (like, arguments in the lunchroom) and then nullsoft skipped 4 because incrementing by just 1 wouldn't imply enough distance had been put between them and it

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 21 November 2013 06:38 (twelve years ago)

btw literally the worst thing about linux is no foobar. i use something called guayadeque now because rhythmbox can't sort by album artist (racism imo) and amarok made me insane, but ugh i'm sitting through splash screens again.

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 21 November 2013 06:44 (twelve years ago)

Actually, it turns out they skipped 4 because 5.x combined the features of both 2.x and 3.x

2+3=5

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 November 2013 06:52 (twelve years ago)

yeah but i don't think they'd've bothered to think of that if 3 had been better received

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 21 November 2013 06:56 (twelve years ago)

True. I've been using 5.x for ten years, and I keep it on the classic orientation, so I barely remember the ways in which 3.x was so terrible. I could toggle it to that if I wanted, but I'd rather it stay a non-memory.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 November 2013 06:57 (twelve years ago)

3 gave me a weird stockholm syndrome inferiority complex re: my computer hardware, like, clearly my pathetic rig didn't DESERVE to acceptably run the awesome new version of winamp

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 21 November 2013 06:58 (twelve years ago)

i think i downloaded a keygen for 5 so that the ripper/burner would work right. lil bit of anguish over the betrayal this represented to nullsoft but by that time they were covered in aol like boils, and if there was one thing i knew at 16 it was fuck aol

5 was good tho yeah. classic mode def the correct and mature choice (knew this even then) but i couldn't stop myself from skinning.

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 21 November 2013 07:05 (twelve years ago)

cPro__HiFi_73 is the skin I've been using for years and years. I don't even remember how long.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 November 2013 07:27 (twelve years ago)

RIP Winamp, still use you at work

(and I'm not really happy with the players I replaced you with at home, either)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 21 November 2013 09:15 (twelve years ago)

xp I used a similar looking Wharfedale skin for a while.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 21 November 2013 09:58 (twelve years ago)

Speaking of skins that were a complete mess, there was a Mondrian inspired one that in theory should have looked great but was a disaster. See also those thousands of random celebrity skins that are just a picture chopped into three.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 21 November 2013 10:04 (twelve years ago)

I loved winamp, but it could never really handle the larger music libraries. As bandwidth availability grew, the worse it got.

Jeff, Thursday, 21 November 2013 12:35 (twelve years ago)

Has there ever been <i>anything</i>that's been bought out by AOL that didn't then wither and die?

Lee626, Thursday, 21 November 2013 12:41 (twelve years ago)

Their mail order drinks coaster business was quite big for a while.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 21 November 2013 12:57 (twelve years ago)

but even that has withered and died

Lee626, Thursday, 21 November 2013 13:00 (twelve years ago)

I loved winamp, but it could never really handle the larger music libraries.

I've got ~13,000 tracks on my current playlist and it seems solid.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 21 November 2013 13:02 (twelve years ago)

The only player I've ever used. The only player I will continue to use till it no longer works. Time to squirrel away the installers & the few plug-ins I use in as many places as possible.

Wandering Boy Poet, Thursday, 21 November 2013 13:27 (twelve years ago)

So much of my music 2001-2004 came from Winamp...

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 November 2013 13:29 (twelve years ago)

That's a point. RIP Winamp visualisation plugins. RIP the DSP plugin which came bundled with non-Lite versions and is probably still the quickest and most widely available way to answer the question "what would this track sound like pitched down slightly / at half-speed / double-speed / as a 45 played at 33", etc.

I haven't found a player that can cope well with big libraries tbh. Maybe this is my fault for being anti-iTunes.

I used Songbird a bit but it had a few bugs and now it's discontinued. The new open source fork of Songbird, Nightingale, refuses to talk to last.fm and keeps crashing. foobar does OK with a local library but if I tell it to look at the library on a samba share it freezes a lot and the disk on the other machine goes nuts whenever foobar's open. Also I haven't managed to get foobar not to look like a spreadsheet while still being usable, but I can live with it looking like a spreadsheet tbh.

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 21 November 2013 13:35 (twelve years ago)

i've been using foobar since day 1, afaik it was the first music player with a database built in which was appealing at the time, and i've never bothered switching off it since it's got a nice low memory footprint unlike everything else these days

i certainly feel the nostalgia for winamp 2.9 though, that was my player of choice for many years

ciderpress, Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:14 (twelve years ago)

Throwing in another vote for foobar. Only switched from Winamp 5 to foobar a few months ago, after getting sick of the fact that Winamp wasn't playing loudly enough on my laptop, even at max volume. foobar is a lot better.

Vinnie, Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:32 (twelve years ago)

<3 winamp visualizations

ogmor, Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:33 (twelve years ago)

^^^ especially since you can program your own with the built in language/IDE.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:34 (twelve years ago)

I've recently switched to MusicBee as my mp3 player after MediaMonkey stopped working for me for some reason. Really happy with it so far. Relatively lightweight and handles my relatively large (>200GB) library without any problems.

Tried foobar several years ago but found it was just too much hassle to configure it the way I wanted, I did get it working like I wanted at some point, but after a hard drive crash just didn't want to go through that again.

I'm tempted to download WinAmp and listen to Pitchfork's best new music circa 2002 for nostalgia's sake, but I'm just not that person anymore.

silverfish, Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:37 (twelve years ago)

Long live Blex, I may not agree with everything he says, but he sure puts your lame ass to shame. Ratios suck, leeches forever, bitch mofos like you are what killed the mp3 world, and it's bitch mofos like you that piss me off. Oh, and don't even bother replying to this message. I don't even know who the user is, but they left their e-mail account open so I thought I'd take advantage of their mistake. And I did have one more question. How does the madbiker suck your dick online? Is it something like this?: Oooh, Tonez, my mouth is sucking your dick now..... Ooh, Madbiker, I'm coming into your face...oooh. You're a fucking idiot, stay in front of the computer screen all day where you belong.

Anti-#Zeraw, AntiTOnez, Blex Forever..........ENDMESSAGE

del griffith, Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:39 (twelve years ago)

btw literally the worst thing about linux is no foobar. i use something called guayadeque now because rhythmbox can't sort by album artist (racism imo) and amarok made me insane, but ugh i'm sitting through splash screens again.

try clementine? it's a bit slow to start but I like it once it's chugging along.

original bgm, Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)

no support for final fantasy 7 skins tho :-/

original bgm, Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)

I gave Foobar a chance a couple years ago but reverted to Winamp because I couldn't figure Foobar out in the approx 90 seconds I give myself to figure out things like local media player apps

William Brosinski (rip van wanko), Thursday, 21 November 2013 17:06 (twelve years ago)

I thought you could save EQ settings on VLC? many xposts

This year I wiped my ipod classic and converted it to RockBox and I don't think I can ever ever go back to the apple firmware now that I've found the combination of custom crossfeed and EQ settings that fits my ears just right. The price is that I run Mac at home so I can no longer load shit to my ipod except at work where I use a PC. But it's worth it.

Crossfeed especially has been a revelation for me. I think VLC has it though it's not called crossfeed there. Do any of these other players?

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 21 November 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)

not as far as i know? but i'd love to know how if so!

piscesx, Thursday, 21 November 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)

http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/21/source-microsoft-in-talks-to-buy-shoutcast-and-winamp-from-aol/

Hold everything! Microsoft might be dropping some cash on Winamp.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 November 2013 20:39 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

Still updating btw, downloaded a 5.66 when this thread was revived and now there's a 5.666

http://www.winamp.com/media-player/all

StanM, Saturday, 14 December 2013 16:22 (twelve years ago)

http://spotiamp.com/

willem, Friday, 20 December 2013 13:56 (twelve years ago)

nice playlist on the spotiamp page

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Friday, 20 December 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

thanks to those who recommened foobar upthread. i recently got a new laptop and thought i'd try out something newer than winamp which i've been using since the 90s. i dunno if it was my old laptop but the one thing that bothered me about winamp was the slow startup time. anyway foobar is even more basic with no gui. speedy, small footprint etc. i love it.

fit and working again, Friday, 21 March 2014 19:28 (twelve years ago)

sounds like you have a media player that's..... fit and working again.

mattresslessness, Friday, 21 March 2014 19:32 (twelve years ago)

Boo

DDD, Friday, 21 March 2014 20:11 (twelve years ago)

Foobar is totally the best imo

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 21 March 2014 22:01 (twelve years ago)

yup; tiny, fast, powerful, interface is so flexible too

difficult listening hour, Friday, 21 March 2014 22:36 (twelve years ago)


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