Holy christ, the new Marilyn Manson single is bloody awful

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And I've always liked him. But holy shit, this new song, titled "This is the New Shit" (even the title is dunderheaded) sounds like a cross between Limp Bizkit and Dink. I'm actually taken aback by its awfullness.

― roger adultery, Sunday, 21 December 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

shame.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 21 December 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

It's been this way ever since Twiggy left. Only now it's worse.

― roger adultery, Sunday, 21 December 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

The last time Marilyn Manson was interesting to me was around Mechanical Animals... so that was tenth grade or so. How many records has he put out since then? Is he still doing the androgynous thing or has he gone back to being a creepy goth dude?

― Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 21 December 2003 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Dink?

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 21 December 2003 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Ian - there've been two studio albums and a live one since Mechanical Animals.

― Schwingung (Damian), Sunday, 21 December 2003 09:03 (twenty-two years ago)

so, is this his "Let's Get Rocked"?

― Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 21 December 2003 09:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Manson's always been shit. The image is usually great, but the music has never measured up to the visuals. He needs to let Al Jourgensen produce him, and let Merzbow mix the results. Then he might have something. (Or he could just hire Dave Witte to play drums.)

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 21 December 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

aw I like the new stuff! Fine pompous techno-metal in a good year for it. The album is overlong compared to Electric Six, the Rob Zombie comp and Powerman 5000 but I like it more than what I heard of his older stuff.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 21 December 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Phil otm with the career advice. But "The Dope Show' ruled

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 21 December 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I wanted to put a MM song from "Golden Age of Grotesque" on my 2003 songs compilation, but after listening to it again I decided against it.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 21 December 2003 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

not even ziggity zigg zigg ah or whatever?

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 21 December 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, Anthony, I think that was one of the ones I was considering! But to answer your question, Nope.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 21 December 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

(p.s. I generally enjoy MM)

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 21 December 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard his Sweet Dreams cover on the radio a couple weeks ago. I'd passed it off when it came out, but I was struck by the number of voices he used and how generally good the arrangement is.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 21 December 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw the Sweet Dreams video. Creepy.

― Aja (aja), Sunday, 21 December 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

the live album was the last thing i enjoyed.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Sunday, 21 December 2003 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

manson has the right influences -- bowie, numan, ozzy, reznor, alice cooper, zappa, waters -- he's intelligent and well-spoken, he pisses off the right people to piss off, and if nothing else he's interesting to watch/quote.

so why does his music suck so badly?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 21 December 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i think he did a remix of Goldfrapp or vice versa and it was quite good

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 22 December 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

http://i.timeinc.net/people/images/specials/celebdiets2002/sizingpast/twiggy.jpg

twiggy was with marilyn manson?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 22 December 2003 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

ps marilyn manson is supremely uninteresting

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 22 December 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Peaked with Mechanical Albums. I'm not a Manson fan, but it's a fantastic record.

― kinski (kinski), Monday, 22 December 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Manson did some tracks on the Resident Evil soundtrack, no?

Ergo, MM = GENIUS

― person#0 (person#0), Monday, 22 December 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Mechanical Animals and it made me want to become a fan, but sadly nothing he's done since then has really held my interest. mObscene off the new one is pretty catchy, but overall the record seems a bit one-note.

― Sean (Sean), Monday, 22 December 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

Manson's devolution is actually quite remarkable to observe. Against
all odds, each album shrinks his talent (never more than modest)
even more microscopically. I've never been a Manson fan, but every
album through _Mechanical Animals_ had about 4-6 good (if derivative
songs), and _Holy Wood_ had "Fall Of Adam" and "The Nobodies" -
although "Nobodies" ludicrously aped the early Travis nugget
"Good Feeling" (!).

And now we have _The Golden Age Of Grotuesque_, which despite my
best efforts remains 100% unlistenable. Well, "Baboon Rape Party,"
is OK, in a cutesy way, but that's a Japanese bonus track so it
doesn't count.

Oh well, I can always just play "Rock Is Dead," bang my head
and wonder if Roger Waters is flattered, baffled, or insulted.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 25 January 2004 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

a song called "Baboon Rape Party" = "cutesy"?

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 25 January 2004 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, you wouldn't think so, but it is.
Also, search "Fundamentally Loathsome" his most obvious
Bowie tribute.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 25 January 2004 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Of 3 albums I have, Holy Wood is the best overall, and most recent, and I heard "Golden Age" was even better, so I'll check out any newer stuff when I get a chance.

― sucka (sucka), Sunday, 25 January 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Marilyn Manson has always been shit. Image > music.

― Stupid (Stupid), Monday, 26 January 2004 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

it's interesting how Courtney Love often gets described as though she'd gotten an unfair shake from the press, but MM hasn't got similar loved-by-cognoscenti status

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 26 January 2004 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

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