Noise: S/D

Search:
-Prurient (CDs on Armageddon Label, Truculent and Hospital Productions. Awesome violent/depressed power electronics/noise--distortion, feedback and crunches; screams.)
-Kites (self-released tapes + LP/CD on Load)
-Forcefield and all spinoffs (Meerk Puffy new LP on Animal Disguise, Forcefield CDs on Load & Bulb)
-Mammal (Scratch n Sniff Entertainment; Fog Walkers LP is amazing)
-Hair Police (Really "heady" stoned out psych-rock for people who already have tinnitus; 7" on Gods of Tundra/Freedom From is excellent)
-Noise Nomads live! Dude just wanders around mumbling into a pedal and screeching and acting like a nomad.
-Wolf Eyes and side-projects, of course. All the "real" Wolf Eyes CDs are worth picking up--Dread,Slicer,Dead Hills, etc.
-Nautical Almanac (Live they're a mess of puke and guts and fizzlypopS!--I haven't heard any of their major records, just splits with the aforementioned Meerk Puffy [the Veglia one is most worth yr time, I say--the one on Bulb is good as well, but hard to listen to in one sitting])

Destroy:
-Whitehouse
-The first Sightings record on Load isn't really worth the time--they improved greatly afterwards, but the first LP isn't interesting. it's just thrashy songs you'd put on at a party to piss people off.
-Wolf Eyes live stuff--you really don't need more than one live tape/cdr from these guys. Really. I know it's pink and yellow with a sharpie'd "5/15" on it, but unless you do way more drugs than me--you don't need it.
-Neon Hunk kinda bore me, but they're not truly a noise band anyway.
-Crack:W.A.R are CREEPY.

Nearly two AM is the BEST POSSIBLE time to start a noise thread.

what do you mean? i may be biased because i'm friends with eric, but i like them. their cd would hardly classify as noise, almost electroclash (ick), but it's silly and fun. their live shows are a little more intense, but still pretty structured. i don't think they're much of a band anymore because the girls always used to get into fights on stage (lame).

it's been a while since i've listened to anything remotely noisy, but i always loved Supersilent (do they even classify as noise?). the Wolf Eyes show i saw was pretty classic. Total Shutdown is pretty funny.

gygax! to thread

also, search the are maybe more jazzy but if you like boredoms, search ruins. follow the amg ratings for their albums, i'd agree with it.

I've only seen 'em live, but it just sounded like lots of harsh tones/screeches and yelling. Also, that it was vaguely electroclash (costumes, weirdish beats? sometimes?) was a bit offputting. Haven't heard the record, so I can't really comment on that.

search: Maryanne Amacher, Zbignew Karkowski, Masami Akita, Ground Zero

destroy: kids with sophomoric pretentions about their Hardcore scene. It's over like electro. Only the Black Dice will survive.

they aren't that good. but surviving to 'classic' status somehow fits.

That said, I quite enjoyed the Wolf Eyes shows I saw this year, and Nautical Almanac were just fucking bizarre, well worth seeing at least once. I saw Viki open for Dat Politics in Detroit, and it just struck me as the harshest show I'd ever seen.

OTM. Noise that sounds different from the idea of noise = win.

destroy: noise as abstract expressionism.

prurient "troubled sleep" cd (truculent)
kites "execution style" tape (unskilled labor)
wolf eyes "fuck the old miami" cdr (chrondritic sound)
forcefield "assassins" cdr (thunderrecords)
merzbow "exotic apple" cd (unsure of label! druggy, fucked up merzbow)

Drop $20 on six tapes and you'll be happy for weeks/months.

www.rrrecords.com

I do, and if you're really listening, you'd have to be deaf not to be able to tell the difference. I also take exception because since 1996 Tovah O'Rourke and I have been running a fairly successful (that means we never have to pay out of pocket for anything) noise label (Polyamory) that does lots of tapes / cdrs along with vinyl, and, as music, I stand behind evrything we've put out.

Search: Muckraker magazine, all Wolf Eyes ever - live, records, tapes - all of it, Whitehouse, Smegma, Freedom From, Hair Police / Zombi / Gods of Tundra, Decaer Pinga / Dylan Nyoukis, Mego records, Fusetron, Borbetomagus, etc etc etc.

Also search any Time Stereo events. They're fun and they're great!

re:Whitehouse - easily the most extreme band of all time, that counts for something. It's easy to tell their albums apart - there are very distinctive shifts in the M.O, if you will. What album did you hear, Ian? Search Dedicated To Peter Kurten (that's my favorite), and then listen to Bird Seed and tell me you can't hear a difference, stylistically. I don't listen to it because of the 'humor' (humor and music don't mix), I listen to it the same way I listen to Iron Maiden, or Arab on Radar, or the Germs - it's visceral. Rules. I own all of their records and several bootlegs and videos.

I also enjoy Sotos on many levels.

search, always search, continuously, forever.

and on caroliner live, they were great. an almost 'metal' version at the show i saw, just violent rocking versions of everything. sort of like 'cooking stove beast.'

-Prurient 'body language' LP
-wolf eyes/john weisse 7"
-kites - reycled
-noise nomads - recycled
-pedestrian deposit - restraint

-- and i think i'm going to order the Diagram A & Flatline Construct tapes from GoT, since Flatline Construct's Primitive Man In The Information Age is so f'ing brilliant. And because I missed when Diagram A played on my birthday in Providence but I didn't go because of epic fights with the ex who was there.

I love it so! Neurosis and Jarboe working together was the best idea since someone thought "I wonder what would happen if I turn this Marshal amp up all the way to ten?"

REALLY REALLY GOOD. A lot of the stuff is dronier than expected. The harshest it gets is probably the live stuff at the beginning of side 2; "staring into the sun" is long and noisy, but there are still fragments of melodies that pop up now and then; the drone aspects of it don't hurt either. The acoustic/chant/weirdness is great. "bike ride pt iii" and "local boy" are both super catchy. "milkweed arrows" reminds me of knifestorm/julian bradley; pretty repeating/layered tone patterns with slow moving variation.

xoxo.

(this thread is going to bethe thread where i get high and listen to noise records and tell you about it.)

- never seen caroliner... but i've seen hansgrusel's, which is a similar crowd of people, etc... amazing show. liked the split with bigtechnowerewolves

- crack war is great live... the kinship to wolf eyes is there... lita ford (with a beat) and black sabbath... "close your eyes" and imagine...

- fat worm of error i enjoyed immensely...

- i second the mention of dark inside the son. woot!

- classic: harry pussy. the discog from siltbreeze is rock and roll.

- likewise... to live and shave in la... wigmaker in williamsburg is wow. total fuckin cockrock. brett michael's taint breath.

- kevin drumm... "sheer hellish miasma" is better than "land of the lurches"...but LoL is still awesome....

you can really surf all over the map. "noise" is verbal spice that's been applied to too many dishes out there. whenever someone "didn't get" a record, "noise" got thrown out there. (that or "art" or "experimental". "i can't classify this! let me cry now!")

winkity,
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ian asked about richard ramirez - i haven't heard his newer material (he quit noise for a while to become a fashion designer?) but his older stuff was very harsh noise. not terribly distinctive, you know, but vicious. he had an album that came sandwiched between two pieces of sheet metal with a locked padlock (no key) through it. there was a tape by the powdered beatles (ramirez and other members of black leather jesus) that was pretty swell. think he also had something to do with anal drill, but maybe that was the taint guy.

Mixing harsh fuzzy distorted low tones, screeching feedback, lyrics (howled and indecipherable) about dock workers. Found sounds, including a brief snippet towards the beginning of side 2 of some unknown classical recording; it sounds familiar, but I'm not well-versed enough to identify it for you. Very fast moving cut-ups, Prurient abhors the drone on this release. Switches rapidly from fuzz to feedback to ring modulated tones. Parts of it even feature melody under all of the cracklecrackle.

HIGHLY recommended.

Also:

Friday 3/19, Saturday 3/20, Sunday 3/21
@ North Six, Brooklyn NY

FRIDAY upstairs:

Pita
Thurston Moore + Chris Corsano + Jim O'Rourke + Paul Flaherty Dream Aktion Unit
Carlos Giffoni + Dylan Nyoukis
Arthur Doyle Electro-Acoustic Ensemble
Rubber-O-Cement
Burning Star Core

SATURDAY upstairs:

Kim Gordon & The Sweet Ride (Ikue Mori, DJ Olive, Jim O'Rourke)
To Live & Shave in L.A.
Gert-Jan Prins
Hair Police
Alan Licht
Nmperign + Due Process
Laundry Room Squelchers

SUNDAY upstairs:

Wolf Eyes
Lee Ranaldo + Roger Miller + William Hooker
Massimo
Monotract
Sightings
Nautical Almanac
Double Leopards

FRIDAY downstairs:

Miscarriage
Magick Markers
Life Partners
Three Legged Race

SATURDAY downstairs:

Aaron Dilloway
Dead Machines
Air Conditioning
Go To Sleep
Humectant Interruption
+ guests

SUNDAY downstairs:

Pengo
Tan As Fuck + Newton
Knifestorm + Unicorn Hard On
Japanese Karaoke Afterlife Experiment

http://www.nofunfest.com

i am curious about "frozen by blizzard winds" - any good?

his influence expanded so drastically in the 60's it becomes difficult to say that someone came from his 'scene' and have it mean anything, the man was everywhere. my point was people still associate Amacher with Cage because of his commission.

89 results found:

nominally new/noize albs i have enjoyed so far this year;

death tone - hivemind
butta daze - armpit
pavilionous miracles of circular facet dice - skaters
green - hototogisu
corpse on horseback - aaron dilloway
birchville cat motel/bruce russell
savage summer sun - double leopards
drawn dead - hair police
galaxy being - graveyards
asylum style 9 - wolf eyes

the armpit rec in particular is a real find - great gnarly mix of electronics, feedback and realtime instruments/singing - sorta dead c x thuja x sightings vibe

Schopenhauer says destroy ALL noise:

"I have long held the opinion that the amount of noise which anyone can bear undisturbed stands in inverse proportion to his mental capacity, and may therefore be regarded as a pretty fair measure of it...Noise is a torture to all intellectual people...The superabundant display of vitality which takes the form of knocking, hammering, and tumbling things about, has proved a daily torment to me all my life long"

- Essays, "On Noise"

http://www.schopenhauer.net/gr/schopenhauer04.jpg

lol dude's a light sleeper, uses it to justify his intellect.

Search: The "noise" of nice melodic song-based music.
Destroy the sound of an electric drill. Also destroy the "noise" genre.

I'd like a serious answer, though I doubt I'll get one, but; what is appealing about "noise" music? What is it that people like about it?

why doubt you get one?

i'd say the gratifying part about noise is pretty much the same as you will get from whatever music you like. Depth, contrast, emotion.
True, there is hardly any melody and if that's one of your must haves than it's just not for you. But there are Noise records that contain melody and thats when the contrast part comes in as well, ever heard a melody after you've been raped in the ear with a power drill? It's pretty sweet. But overall what I get from Noise is the intense depth of the music, the multiple layers, it's headphone music ultimately.
There's much more...but I should be working

and Schopenhauer dissapoints me a lot, what a fucking wuss!

Could someone pick an individual album or song and describe what they get out of it? I'm intrigued.

"explain to me why i am incapable of understanding this. plz don't use vowels."

That's why I doubted I'd get one!

My son's evolving list of favorite noise artists intrigues me, but admittedly not enough to actually listen to most of them. I don't know most of them. Any recommendations for him based on these?

Merzbow
The Rita
Hijokaiden
Incapacitates
Masonna
Richard Ramirez
Vomir
Werewolf Jerusalem
Hanatarash
Wallcroft
Whitehouse
K2
Sickness
Prurient

Maybe check out some New Blockaders, especially their early albs, as well as related acts like the Haters, Metgumbnerbone and even the more abrasive Organum stuff.

BTW, there's a nice fan made IncapaciTANTS documentary on YT that I would recommend to anyone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASa80SyUCso

And this footage of them, taken by the noise artist Lasse Marhaug, captures the sheer adrenaline rush excitement of noise better than anything else I've seen - worth skipping to the end where Fumio Kosakai lifts up a giant speaker cabinet and chucks it over his table of kit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXfZpYhM40I

lol yeah spelling is not his strong suit. Cool, will pass along.

Incapacitants is a hard word for anyone to spell! And I had to c&p Metgumbnerbone

He’s probably familiar already but: Wolf Eyes.

Pain Jerk FOR SURE

ASTRO

Tattered Syntax
The Cherry Point
Consumer Electronics

Definitely others but I’d have to think about it

Kevin Drumm (especially Sheer Hellish Miasma and Impish Tyrant)
John Wiese

Astro seconded, just amazing. Love the later C.C.C.C. stuff as well.

most of the heavy hitters are in the list there already, but def that Harry Pussy CD on Siltbreeze and TLASILA's "Wigmaker" aren't harsh noise walls but are super intense.

I don't think I've ever seen this thread!

oh and def add Runzelstirn & Gurgelstock to his "check it out" list

this total-destructo P16D4 thing is a personal fave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quq4xAcGZ5g

Seems to have been discussed on the thread 17 years ago, but academic types like Maryann Amacher and the more abrasive Xenakis electronic pieces may be of interest. Xenakis looked the part too! Also the seemingly endless slew of excavated music with titles like 'Electronic & Tape Works 1962-1972' or whatever.

stockhausen

Robert Ashley's The Wolfman (1964!) always seems to me like the most proto-noise piece of composition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKux6PuYkYw

Really good, interesting calls. (I don’t think I was aware of this thread either, sleeve!)

There is an ocean of music out there for your kid to explore.

it actually warms my heart that some kid is out there jamming to Hijo Kaidan

Wow that Wolfman thing is really great

Trying not to repeat anything already mentioned

Ralf Wehowsky/RLW - try Cases w Kevin Drumm, or Fall Seliger Geister, or Views
R/S - One (Snow Mud Rain)
Joe Panzner - Tedium
IMF - Harlem Electronics
Joe Colley/Crawl Unit - Psychic Stress Soundtracks, or Everyone Gets What They Deserve, or Desperate Attempts at Beauty
Prants - Axon Ladder
Choi Joonyong, Hong Chulki - Balloon & Needle
greg kelley - i don't want to live forever

More on the concrete side but I think your son would probably dig Ivo Malec's 'Triola'

Sissy Spacek

Borbetomagus - Snuff Jazz.
Rallizes - The Last One off Live '77.
Luigi Nono - Non Consumiamo Marx.

So I know that "listen to my kid's noise album" is not the most enticing pitch, but as a proud dad I'll share the album my son just released with a friend he met via online noise communities. Staticky, squelchy, ominous and occasionally drifty stuff. I'm not enough of a noise head to really rate, but it sounds pretty good to me. https://open.spotify.com/album/3qqVEVdvzCauZRSqf33HS6?si=T-H9TU1XTOiXqClFrqvANg

this Sergey Pakhomov album Shishanote 1 is really awesome, totally sounds like getting one's head slowly crushed like the poor soul on the cover

https://sergeypakhomov.bandcamp.com/album/1