― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 December 2003 06:35 (twenty-two years ago)
Deutsche Amerikanische FreundschaftMatt HeckertAsmus Tietchens
― Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Monday, 29 December 2003 06:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 29 December 2003 07:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Teen Challenge Drug Addict Choir (mjt), Monday, 29 December 2003 07:45 (twenty-two years ago)
It had a little spiel by Graeme Revell on the back - 'Imposible to think of nomads without the space they inhabit...'... and it sounded a little like SPK in their '83 incarnation with Sinan singing.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 December 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)
I don't think DAF are exactly lesser known.
― Xii (Xii), Monday, 29 December 2003 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 29 December 2003 08:43 (twenty-two years ago)
Smersh were excellent.
― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Monday, 29 December 2003 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)
In the context of "anyone reasonably musically literate," DAF isn't a small name. I think this thread was intended to be geared towards industrial acts who happen to be lesser known amongst fans of the genre. Mole, wanna back me up on this here? I dunno what you're looking for.
Konstruktivists are most def amazing.
What about Robert Rental and Thomas Leer?
― Xii (Xii), Monday, 29 December 2003 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)
Konstructivits, Rental and Leer - yeah yeah!! Anyone who likes Aphex Twin or early Severed Heads would probably like Robert Rental and Thomas Leer. And the Konstructivits - they were ubiquitous in about 1982, what happened?? They were also really terrific, from memory. Sigh. So much good music forgotten. All these acts released at least one album.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 December 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― JD, Monday, 29 December 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Monday, 29 December 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)
Have you heard the side projects? Most Signifigant Beat, which is the funniest name ever. Sounds a bit like Future Sound Of London, bizarrely.
― Xii (Xii), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)
i also third esplendor geometrico and add controlled bleeding.
― stirmonster, Monday, 29 December 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)
Penal ColonyBabylandThe Klinikand all the one-off Wax Trax projects from 1989 or so...
PTP... "Tick tick tock Ay-yam tha keetchen clawk.. tick tick tock this is my life"
Dan OTM re: Severed Heads
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― geoff s (kissmyfist), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― JD, Monday, 29 December 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)
Greater Than One, fer crying out loud
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)
And then there was, ahem, Die Warzau... memories, anyone? Consolidated? Mmmm, shouty politics, klanging metal, and electronic body myoozik. ENER-JEYSSSSS!
(Not to mention that most stuff on DHR and Warp since the late 90s have pretty much coopted industrial shtick and influences while escaping the "embarrassing" associations thereof..)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 29 December 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 December 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)
And who could forget Pankow! and Boris Mikulic!
and Vomito Negro!
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)
Mole: Saverio Evangelista from EG is in MSB / Most Signifigant Beat with another guy. They have a single, some splits, and a record that I know of. Admittedly, I haven't explored much beyond that.
― Xii (Xii), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― man, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)
Manufacture, on the other hand, haha... "Armed Forces! Destruct! Deceit, Lies, Control (YES SIR!)". Repeat x 64. That was the first time I listened to anything industrial and realized "goddamn, this is a fucking formula, isn't it..?" Then Front Line Assembly dominated the scene and I quickly cowered away and listened to rock music for a while.
One thing Manufacture does NOT get props/admonishment for. They are somewhat responsible for giving Sarah McLachlan's career a boost. She guested on some single on their first album "Terrorvision", and then she signed fully on Nettwerk, and somehow eventually Sarah became the soundtrack to a U.S. president sticking a cigar up someone's
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)
They just put out a new album this year on Minus Habens. Its called "Life Is Offensive And Refuses To Apologize." Its in line with their self-titled album, really noisy and minimal.
Would Robert Rental and The Normal's 'Live at West Runton Pavilion' count as industrial?
Robert Rental was on Industrial Records. I doubt you could classify things he did in that time period as not being industrial. It does kick ass.
To the person who reco'd Apoptygma Berzerk - what does prog. trance have to do with industrial?
― Xii (Xii), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Teen Challenge Drug Addict Choir (mjt), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)
TAGC and Clock DVA are both amazing. Adi Newton is one of my favorite musicians of that period.
It wasn't over-rated at all.
The Final Cut are amazing. I had the chance to interview Tony a few years ago, he was just so nice and really cool.
― Xii (Xii), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 08:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 08:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 08:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)
wasn't final cut jeff mills and mike banks pre underground resistance band?
top industrial ambient droners should be added to this thread too - organnum and lustmord.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― man, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)
We'll just agree to disagree. At his early-days best, he was still just a bad version of Depeche Mode.
― Xii (Xii), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― kephm, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)
Second Die Warzau, I like the album "engine" a lot, for the way it collages together a whole junkpile of unexpected noises (not cheesily with overused sampling style), it mixes the electronics with real instruments like steel drums, on top of good melodies and some real singing. Their only other album I know "Bigelectricmetalbassface" was very lukewarm with too much bad pseudo-rap, though.
Bile's debut is a hardcore/punky rarity that definitely deserves a listen from industrial-metal fans.
So does Cubanate's least cheesy, most powerful album "Barbarossa". The songs are explosive. A review I saw said they didn't end, they dropped off.
Flux "Uncarved Block" gets called industrial- it has all the tribal percussion, clanging metal and dubby production from Adrian Sherwood. Love it and the unique way it evolved from a Crass-like punk band.
Laibach is not obscure at all but I don't think their earlier pre-poppy pure/austere industrial stuff is heard so much. "Nova Akropola" is my favorite.
Machines of Loving Grace aren't obscure either (hell they were in "the crow") but "concentration" was the best pop-industrial album ever and should not have been ignored and forgotten.
― sucka (sucka), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)
Tom Ellard said some almost slanderous shit about the S R Gilmore artwork on the North American Severed Heads releases, and the straw that broke the camel's back was him seeing the "Bad Mood Guy" LP with the face of a guy in, well, a bad mood. (the australian art for "Bad Mood Guy" is really great actually, and doesn't have guys in a bad mood on it, for the record) From there on out, all Severed Heads cover art was to be the same on all releases, hence the rather benign pumpkin on "Rotund for Success". (Then again, you can argue about or against the digital quality of Severed Heads own videos for their time, but that's all better off in a Severed Heads thread, me thinks)
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)
My favourite industrial sleeve would have to be the corpse cover for SPK's 'Leichenschrei'. I think Tom had a point when he said all this stuff was corny gothic high horror camp, but that's exactly what I liked about it.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― disco stu (disco stu), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)
Leeb's various side projects (noise unit, intermix, delerium, etc.) are usually worth a listen. Leeb is a good rip-off artist.
The entire "power noise" scene has been ignored by everyone (the ant-zen lable - imminent starvation, noisex, pal, vromb)
Suicide Commando is fun EBM.
And Gridlock.
― fletrejet, Wednesday, 31 December 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)
File under pop!
― Jens (brighter), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)
I play Ninetynine a lot for friends, but it was terminally disrespected for a lack of club beats within the goth scene.
Still consistantly good, even after a vast stylistic drift over the years. I'm probably partial, though, having had them release a remix of mine.
― Xii (Xii), Thursday, 1 January 2004 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)
Maybe not so much industrial but..Greater Than One, fer crying out loud
And guess what's being reissued...:
ALL THE MASTERS LICKED ME
This was Greater Than One's first "proper" LP, issued originally in 1987 by Graeme Revell (SPK) and Brian (Lustmord) Williams on their Side Effects Records label. Here it is paired with Trust, their first attempt at the album's recording but released in 1990 on We Never Sleep (LP) and in 1991 by ROIR (CS). While the popular world knows more about Lee Newman and Michael Wells as Technohead, GTO, or Tricky Disco, All The Masters Licked Me is their first fully realized concept of weaving samples into a vivid aural tapestry.From the original press release: "The music is devised from sampling sounds which are programmed via a computer system to form strong and powerful pieces of aural art: mixing noises from the underground system with ethnic chanting, heavy metal & hip hop beats with military drumming and classical orchestration. The album contains 9 tracks on each side, with pieces referring to rioting 'The Sweet Smell of a Supermarket On Fire' to ' The Rape of Sam the Fox,' a track that evokes gallery slaves, masturbation and physical brutality. Each track is carefully constructed to convey the intentions and meaning contained within the titles."The album was recorded and digitally mastered by Greater Than One. To make the CD the original betamax studio master tape was baked for 72 hours at a special audio house in the UK. The DAT for Trust was generously donated by Lucas Cooper of ROIR. Enhanced CD content includes MP3s of the entire album, unbroken, photos, cover images, an art book, and an extensive book with articles and press clippings and words from Michael Wells and others....disc a 1. Exorcising Julie 2. The Intelligence of Natives 3. The Sweet Smell of a Supermarket On Fire 4. Trendy Afrika 5. Everything Is In a State of Flux 6. The Rape of Sam the Fox (Theme) 7. Kill That Parent 8. Lost Underground 9. We Don't Have Weekends 10. We Are the People with the Human Fist 11. Psychotherapy 12. Sweet Satellite 13. We Hate America and America Hates Us 14. We're O.K. 15. Dick Heads 16. Slog On (Dead Beat) 17. Straight Plague 18. Bad Lovedisc b 1. Trust part one 2. Trust part two
From the original press release: "The music is devised from sampling sounds which are programmed via a computer system to form strong and powerful pieces of aural art: mixing noises from the underground system with ethnic chanting, heavy metal & hip hop beats with military drumming and classical orchestration. The album contains 9 tracks on each side, with pieces referring to rioting 'The Sweet Smell of a Supermarket On Fire' to ' The Rape of Sam the Fox,' a track that evokes gallery slaves, masturbation and physical brutality. Each track is carefully constructed to convey the intentions and meaning contained within the titles."
The album was recorded and digitally mastered by Greater Than One. To make the CD the original betamax studio master tape was baked for 72 hours at a special audio house in the UK. The DAT for Trust was generously donated by Lucas Cooper of ROIR. Enhanced CD content includes MP3s of the entire album, unbroken, photos, cover images, an art book, and an extensive book with articles and press clippings and words from Michael Wells and others.
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disc a
1. Exorcising Julie 2. The Intelligence of Natives 3. The Sweet Smell of a Supermarket On Fire 4. Trendy Afrika 5. Everything Is In a State of Flux 6. The Rape of Sam the Fox (Theme) 7. Kill That Parent 8. Lost Underground 9. We Don't Have Weekends 10. We Are the People with the Human Fist 11. Psychotherapy 12. Sweet Satellite 13. We Hate America and America Hates Us 14. We're O.K. 15. Dick Heads 16. Slog On (Dead Beat) 17. Straight Plague 18. Bad Love
disc b
1. Trust part one 2. Trust part two
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LONDON
London was the introduction of Greater Than One to the blossoming post-industrial culture as spearheaded by Chicago-based WaxTrax! Records. It was released in July of 1989 as a double LP/single CD collection of music recorded from 1987-1988 on Greater Than One's London-based label, K=K Recordings, and includes the entire LP of Dance of the Cowards. The recordings here have been digitally remastered by the legendary Jeff Lipton (Numero Group, Rykodisc, the list goes on forever) of Peerless Mastering and sound stunning. Bonus material includes the music from the Duty + Trust cassette, originally issued in 1991 by ROIR as well as other compilation tracks recorded at the time. Enhanced CD content includes photos, cover images, and an extensive book with articles and press clippings and words from Michael Wells and many others.A DVD includes the music videos for "I Don't Need God," "Utopia," and "Pure," as well as three lengthy projections from their performances (featuring user-selectable soundtrack) and an "art reel."...disc a 1. Now Is the Time (12" mix) 2. Everybody's Crazy (Except Us) 3. Techno Golden Beat 4. Peace 5. Slave 6. Computer Dub 7. Deep Shake 8. Liberation 9. Brick Lane 10. The Dark Streets of London 11. The Rose, the Cross & the Flag 12. Crisisdisc b 1. Now Is the Time 2. Song for England 3. The Truth 4. Kunst Gleich Kapital 5. All the Masters Licked You 6. Dance of the Cowards 7. All Men Are Boys 8. I Know Everything 9. Dear Ol' Blighty 10. Funk It 11. Peace - Beatbox Inc. re-editdvd * I Don't Need God (video) * Utopia (video) * Pure (video) * projections * artworks
A DVD includes the music videos for "I Don't Need God," "Utopia," and "Pure," as well as three lengthy projections from their performances (featuring user-selectable soundtrack) and an "art reel."
1. Now Is the Time (12" mix) 2. Everybody's Crazy (Except Us) 3. Techno Golden Beat 4. Peace 5. Slave 6. Computer Dub 7. Deep Shake 8. Liberation 9. Brick Lane 10. The Dark Streets of London 11. The Rose, the Cross & the Flag 12. Crisis
1. Now Is the Time 2. Song for England 3. The Truth 4. Kunst Gleich Kapital 5. All the Masters Licked You 6. Dance of the Cowards 7. All Men Are Boys 8. I Know Everything 9. Dear Ol' Blighty 10. Funk It 11. Peace - Beatbox Inc. re-edit
dvd
* I Don't Need God (video) * Utopia (video) * Pure (video) * projections * artworks
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G-FORCE
G-Force marks a clear transitionary period from the post-industrial sounds of London to the techno sounds of Tricky Disco and GTO. The package includes all the music from both singles "I Don't Need God" and "Utopia" plus the Index EP, various compilation tracks, and music from the Japanese-only VHS tape Video Drug 1, available on CD for the first time ever....disc a 1. G-Force 2. Ich Liebe Dich Mein Prinz 3. Learn with Pleasure, Knowledge Is Power 4. Black Magic 5. Alpha 5 6. The Man Who Lived In Books 7. The Ballet of the 3 Feathered Sardines 8. Why Do Men Have Nipples? disc b 1. I Don't Need God 2. Ignorance is the Agent of Fear 3. Fear is the Agent of Violence 4. Utopia A 5. Utopia AA 6. Utopia Minuetdisc c 1. Joy 2. Metal 3. Voice 4. Dub Killer 5. Harmony 6. Hair/Spirits (also known as "Lu & La") 7. Pathway/Entrance 8. Spin/Fall 9. August/Bondage 10. Memories/Scissors 11. I'm Gonna Whoop Your Ass 12. Storm the Dancefloor 13. Take It Easy 14. Joy - Killjoy Edit
1. G-Force 2. Ich Liebe Dich Mein Prinz 3. Learn with Pleasure, Knowledge Is Power 4. Black Magic 5. Alpha 5 6. The Man Who Lived In Books 7. The Ballet of the 3 Feathered Sardines 8. Why Do Men Have Nipples?
1. I Don't Need God 2. Ignorance is the Agent of Fear 3. Fear is the Agent of Violence 4. Utopia A 5. Utopia AA 6. Utopia Minuet
disc c
1. Joy 2. Metal 3. Voice 4. Dub Killer 5. Harmony 6. Hair/Spirits (also known as "Lu & La") 7. Pathway/Entrance 8. Spin/Fall 9. August/Bondage 10. Memories/Scissors 11. I'm Gonna Whoop Your Ass 12. Storm the Dancefloor 13. Take It Easy 14. Joy - Killjoy Edit
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 August 2008 05:59 (seventeen years ago)
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Aw, this is swell. Hopefully Lee Newman is excited about this somewhere, wherever she may be. (She passed away in 1995 from cancer, coincidentally on the same day Jerry Garcia died.)
― Mackro Mackro, Friday, 22 August 2008 07:12 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, it's a treat, and credit to Brainwashed for doing this. I gather they're planning similar reissues for other bands, and this is a great start.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 August 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)
lee newman was so lovely. i wrote her a fanboy letter once and from then on she would send me all their records. sadly missed.
― stirmonster, Friday, 22 August 2008 13:54 (seventeen years ago)
Now that's a cool story.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 August 2008 15:14 (seventeen years ago)
A thread had to be started...
Greater Than One, G.T.O., Technohead, Tricky Disco, etc.
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 28 August 2008 19:05 (seventeen years ago)
probably nothing new to anyone here but betty botox has a (sort of) industrial mix on beats is space next week -
Zoviet France - Mohnomishe pt. 7 Whitehouse - You Won't Like It, Sugar Laibach - Krst Throbbing Gristle - Dreammachine The Klinik - Plague Philadelphia Five - Not Leaving Without Jerry Signal Aout 42 - Carnaval Signal Aout 42 - Submarine Dance SPK - Metal Dance Hunting Lodge - Tribal Warning Shot T.D.A. - Faces Of Freedom pt. 1 Ken Lewis - Cosmic Cars Dub Coil - Further Back And Faster Force Dimension - Tension Delkom - Sexploitation Absolute Body Control - Automatic Snowy Red - Euroshima (Wardance) The Incvincible Spirit - Push! Nightmoves - Transdance Isolators - Concentrate On Us Mariah - 心臓の扉
― stirmonster, Thursday, 28 August 2008 20:20 (seventeen years ago)
Any fans of Click Click? Their later records are fairly generic EBM but some of the earlier music is amazing, kinda Portion Control crossed with Test Dept. Great lyrics and vocals as well. This video is pretty incredible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnV-akqKqg4
― Volker Veldeke, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 19:59 (fifteen years ago)
i was quite a fan. saw them a couple of times live - excellent!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mPWEPeyVKQ
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:37 (fifteen years ago)
damn. completely forgot re click click.but your posts reminded me.i used to have this on cd : http://www.discogs.com/Click-Click-Rorschach-Testing/master/17608being honest, don't recall too much about it which is probably why its no longer buried in the archive .. still would be nice to have it to hand to give it another go.
― mark e, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)
amor fatiexecutive slacks
― death panel of the mods (Edward III), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)
Click Click must be the only industrial group to have had a harmonica player.
― Volker Veldeke, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 22:11 (fifteen years ago)
how about... POESIE NOIRE?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aq0s9zPikE
― DJP, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)