Does the manifesto of the Manics read, "we are against capitalism but reserve the right to make millions from it?"

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Cos, if so, their agenda makes no sense. Seriously, is Nicky Wire dumb or just pretending?

C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 29 December 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"We're signed to Sony but we hate them really and don't actually take their millions. And when we sold Australia to an Aussie airline firm? Well that was just socialism really. Anyway, yeah, let's talk about our new album..."

Been awful quiet since Sept 11th hasn't he?

C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 29 December 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently Nicky & Fidel are good friends.
Here's a conversation between them on MSM
(full link: http://www.manicjunk.co.uk/Features/fidel.htm)
It should be plausable as it is off a fansite, I think it's hilarious.

Fidel says:
hello
Nicky says:
FIDEL. HI THERE! IT’S SUCH AN HONOUR TO SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN!
Fidel says:
it is v. good to see u online comrade
Nicky says:
YES. I’M NOT ONLINE MUCH ATALL!
Nicky says:
I DON’T USE COMPUTERS VERY OFTEN. ITS A NEW ONE.
Fidel says:
why u typing in caps lock?
Nicky says:
PARDON?
Fidel says:
capital letters. ur typing in capital letters. why? it's rude!!!
Nicky says:
OOHHHH SORRY I DIDN’T REALISE. HOW DO I CHANGE IT?
Fidel says:
press the caps lock button u fool. it's at the far left of ur keyboard if urs is the standard western model like mine
Fidel says:
do not worry comrade. how are things with the band?
Fidel says:
whats it called again?
Nicky says:
oh i’ve got it.! very good. we’re making a new album soon
Nicky says:
manic street preachers
Fidel says:
ah very good. you were louder than war!
Nicky says:
oh!!! yes of course! we lovved it when you said that. we really did. it was such an honour for us.
Fidel says:
will u be recording album in wales? you don’t wanna to do it england with all the english scum!
Nicky says:
we’re going to recorrd it in... america
Fidel says:
america?! WHAT!? whyy???????? do it in CUBA comrade, do not give in to the US lies and oppression!
Nicky says:
well it’s all arranged now, but of course it would;ve been such an honour to do it cuba. ohhhh well...
Fidel says:
have you still got that little boy in the band?
Nicky says:
boy?
Fidel says:
yeh, the strange one with the stick things. that was a great foto opportunity to show my people. having the chance to pose with the youth and to show my compassion for the future of cuba. thank you for providing me with the opportunity. u will be rewarded of course!!!
Nicky says:
ohh, you mean sean? he’s our drummer. yes he’s still with us.
Fidel says:
what about the silly man on the piano. he was rubbish.
Nicky says:
nick?
Fidel says:
no you fool. YOU are nick. the other 1, on the piano thing...
Nicky says:
he is called nick too. our keyboard player.
Fidel says:
lol I see.
Nicky says:
pardon? lol?
Fidel says:
it means laugh out loud
Nicky says:
oh right! I’m not used to this computer stuff.
Fidel says:
so yeah… that keyboard man was shit. he ruined all the songs with his silly droning organ noise. i could've done a better job than him
Fidel says:
LMAO
Nicky says:
pardon?
Fidel says:
means laugh my ass off!
Nicky says:
oh right. I’m not used to this computer stuff!
Fidel says:
I think I should swap places with ur keyboard man. it would be better for the band. he can look after cuba instead!!
Fidel says:
roflmao
Nicky says:
what? roflmao?
Fidel says:
oh for fucks sake. GET WITH THE PROGRAM nicky! 'rolling on floor laughing my ass off’.
Fidel says:
i will look 4ward to playing the baby elian song with u. its your best 1!!
Nicky says:
ohhh! I’m so sorry! i feel silly!
Nicky says:
that' s a very funny idea though! to change places!!. but I don’t think Nick really sees himself as a dictator
Fidel says:
HOW DARE U. I AM NOT A DICTATOR. I HAVE THE INTERESTS OF MY PEOPLE AT HEART AND WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR ANYTHING 2 HAPPEN TO THEM AGAINST THEIR INTERESTS. AFTER EVERYTHING I DID FOR U IN CUBA, HOW DO U REPAY ME?! WITH SLURS + LIES! U ARE A TOOL OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT 2 BRING ME DOWN. I CAN NOT BELIEVE U DO THIS.
Nicky says:
oh fidel, i’m so sorry. it was only a joke. i’m so sorry. after it was such an honnour to meet you and you treated us soooo well, I cant believe I’ve been so rude. sorry. i’m so soooo sorry! please forgive me.
Nicky says:
i think it’s just great that you are standing out as the final communist outpost against the oppression of the bourgeoisie. it was such an honour to meet you in your beautiful and free country, where equality is celebrated in the truest sense
Nicky says:
and your people were so beautiful!
Fidel says:
ok my friend. i forgive you this time. u talkin to any1 else on here?
Nicky says:
i haven’t really got many other people on my contacts list. i don’t want any friends
Nicky says:
but I’m talking to my brother patrick, and sean our drummer. and billy bragg has just signed in
Fidel says:
who is billy bragg?
Nicky says:
oh just an old friend.
Fidel says:
i'm talking to nelson mandela and the pope at the moment. we’re having a three-way conversation.
Fidel says:
the pope is such a comedian
Fidel says:
he's got some brilliant material on abortion!
Fidel says:
ROFLWPIMP!
Nicky says:
what???
Fidel says:
rolling on the floor laughing whilst peeing my pants
Nicky says:
ohh I see. i’m not really used to this computer stuff.
Nicky says:
but never really thought the pope would be like that!
Fidel says:
oh god yeah!!! he’s a dirty git. we have exchanged porn + also bomb making plans thru here. he’s quite the anarchist u no!
Nicky says:
wow....
Nicky says:
what other famous people do you have on your list?
Fidel says:
oh, just a few world leaders. i need to be able to speak with them and msn is the best way. george w bush added me the other day but I BLOCKED HIM. ahahahaha!
Nicky says:
!!!! that’ll teach him!
Fidel says:
yeah. about time I gave that little bastard a taste of his own medicine. microsoft messenger is one thing he cant beat me at
Fidel says:
LTMSH!!
Nicky says:
pardon?
Fidel says:
laughing til my sides hurt. u really need to catch up with the internet speak nicky. or u will b left behind by the technological world. that would just be SO lame
Nicky says:
i will fidel. that is wonderful advice. its such an honnour to receive such good advice from a man of your stature
Fidel says:
oh cut the rebop u fool. stop sucking up to me or I’m gonna puke!.
Fidel says:
did the money from our special deal come through just after u came over for the gig?
Nicky says:
sorry. oh yeah we got it I just hope we didn’t let you down
Fidel says:
no no, you did a fantastic job comrade
Fidel says:
my men said u all behaved vry well + didnt say anything bad 2 the press. as a result, cuba’s profile has apparently improved considerably amongst the disillusioned + naïve youth of britain. well done comrade!
Fidel says:
and did ur side of the deal work out? u made some money from extra publicity/merchandising etc.?
Nicky says
oh yes it was lovely. we released a DVD and video of the concert, and it included the film of us meeting you! and the newspapers went mad for it all
Fidel says:
excellent
Fidel says:
u still talking 2 the little drummer boy?
Nicky says:
yeah I am.
Fidel says:
why dont u invite him in and we can all speak?
Nicky says:
how do I do that?
Fidel says:
oh FFS you fool! go to actions, then ‘invite someone…’ + then choose his name
Nicky says:
oh ok i’ll give it a try!

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Nicky is probably very idealistic and revolutionary romantic, what he does forget however is that Fidel has been opressing outspoken musicians in Cuba for years. The irony is that if Nicky was a Cuban resident opposing the CUBAN regime, he would have been inprisoned.

But still, I believe he has good intentions and is a good fellow, it's just a shame he is blinded by his ideology.

Jim Janse, Monday, 29 December 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Eh, I'm not so sure about the autencity of that conversation any longer:)

Jim Janse, Monday, 29 December 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

That conversation is hilarious.

Wire is really thick. I kinda see where he comes from sometimes, but just when you sort of think, "yeah maybe someone is right to go and play Cuba" you kind of realise that Wire is no Ernest Hemmingway and, despite his romantic notions, loves his little capitalist existence more than most people. And the words to "freedom of speech won't feed my children" just make you squirm.

Wire would be a lot lesser off in Cuba. It's interesting how such a punk rocker was happy to take off the eye liner and dress when asked to do so by Fidel.

C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 29 December 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Hemingway (nb one "m") sucks.

Angharienne Bradshaw (Angharienne Bradshaw), Monday, 29 December 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Well he shot an elephant so you're probably right.

C-Man (C-Man), Monday, 29 December 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

who cares about the Manics anymore anyway?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 29 December 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

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Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 29 December 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

how did those swans get round the picture filter? i have settings set to 'no pictures' and there was a large list of [swan.jpg]s but eventually pictures of swans actually showed up. any ideas?

cozen¡ (Cozen), Monday, 29 December 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow. If you scroll through this page really fast, it looks like the swan ISN'T MOVING.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 29 December 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

One for the old skool REM fans there.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 29 December 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

how did those swans get round the picture filter? i have settings set to 'no pictures' and there was a large list of [swan.jpg]s but eventually pictures of swans actually showed up. any ideas?

None. But were any listed as [swan.jp]?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 29 December 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Hopefully CNN won't take our Larrson away.
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Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 29 December 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

all the pictures which were filtered were listed as [swan.jpg], noodles, hm. who knows.

cozen¡ (Cozen), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

If you hold on the scroll bar and slide down gently, the swans go the wrong way...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks man, somethings not right with the no-image setting but its random.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)


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