N.E.R.D. "She Wants To Move"

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The new N.E.R.D. single has leaked, you can get it right here for a limited time.

I like it, it sounds different and familiar at once. I like that Pharrell can actually pull off a lyric like "her ass is a spaceship I want to ride" without sounding like a total dweeb.

What are your thoughts?

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

dude i haven't listened yet but I find it impossible to believe a) anybody could pull off that lyric and b) Pharrell doesn't sound like a dweeb

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I find it hard to believe anyone COULDNT pull off that fine lyric! Maybe Pharrell is my man though.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, it is kinda dweeby, but endearingly so. At least, I think so.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

dfa has remixed it

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

No way! That should be really good.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Dweebiness is obviously part of the NERD aesthetic.

― bugged out, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I find it hard to believe anyone COULDNT pull off that fine lyric! Maybe Pharrell is my man though.

Stop whatever you're doing and say it out loud! Maybe you should look in the mirror, too, while you're saying it

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

That lyric is so George Clinton/Kool Keith.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

hooray! thx matthew!

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

do you think that's spymob playing all the parts? maybe they'll do a virgin europe release where they re-record it with samples / drum machines.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The verses are very good. The chorus really lets them down, I feel... it sounds like it should open up, really explode in the chorus, and when it tries, it just... doesn't. It's quite deflating. But it's not bad.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay it's pretty good. That quote doesn't seem as brazen in context. The guitars aren't cool, but I can deal with them. I certainly hope they're not like that through the whole album.

x-post, I thought the chorus added to the groove a lot!

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

the guitars are most uncool in the bridge. though i am amused by the idea of pharrell eventually morphing into the 21c carlos santana.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

um ... what was the single on the first N.E.R.D. album? was it "lapdance"?

also has anybody listened to their copy of "in search of..." lately? i don't think i've put it on since last spring...

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

they've said in interviews that for this album they're doing most of the live instrumentation themselves, no more Spymob, Chase Chad is learning guitar, etc.

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

lapdance and rockstar were singles last time. i listened to it (the version without live instruments) a few weeks ago when drunk. it's not as good as kaleidoscope is it?

thanks matthew!

― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

oh god those santana guitars are a bit off-putting! but i ended up loving the AOR bits of 'in search of...' so i'll give it some time. i'm not sure about this live instruments thing though, i liked nerd because they sounded like a computer imagining a real band, actually *being* a real band seems to spoil the fun :-(

― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"live instrumentation"...arrrrgggggh

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i really like the beat, though! there's something satisfyingly dancey about it, more in a big beat sense than a hip-hop sense.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

But, um, Neps use "live instruments" on 80% of their stuff anyway...

― bugged out, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Provider was also a single, and then there's the Live in Paradiso EP of course, only released in the Netherlands... :-)

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"also has anybody listened to their copy of "in search of..." lately?"

More than any other album this past year.

I think "Lapdance" was a single for the original version of the album, or at least the video was. "Rock Star" and "Provider" were both from the second version.

― billstevejim, Thursday, 22 January 2004 08:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw the 'Lapdance' clip on the TV last night and that would explain the lack of guitar. Way more synthy.

― Hayden Nicholls (Pop the Weasel), Thursday, 22 January 2004 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

how long is it?
i'm trying to find it on kazaa
but every file i try to get all i can hear is air.
maybe if i know how long it is i can find the right file

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Why don't you just download it directly from the link above? Is that not working for you? It should.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

no it's not for some reason

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...

Her ass is a space ship... quite literally.

― JoB (JoB), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

this video is odd. what's with the mother and daughter?

― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 06:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, this sucks.

― Le Coq, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

yes it does. nerd is such a bad idea.

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)

this song couldn't suck more if it tried.
and the video is just garbage.
the neptunes really ran out of things to do.
it's boring and very very stupid

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"Our fiendish plan consists of the following: by building on the solid foundation of Like I Love You's organic funk groove by removing both the catchy melodies and interesting vocals, we can find favour with a greater number of chuckleheads than ever before!"

"That won't work unless you include a music video that outdoes Andre 3000 video in the Beck-alike stakes."

"Dammit! We knew we forgot something! Hey, does Spike Jonze still do videos?"

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 07:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i didn't like it at first but it's not that bad. sorry.

― William Wiggins, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah it's actually okay, but it *does* reek of self-conscious positioning as vaguely "arty".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 08:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Interesting video, but the music is truly dreadful.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 February 2004 07:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Alesha from Mis-teeq in the video, right?

― Nick H (Nick H), Friday, 27 February 2004 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

neck and neck with that jc chasez single for the most overrated piece of rock-biting shit of the year.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 February 2004 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh dear, I really liked this single, although come tae think of it, it's um, levelled-off groove reminded me somewhat of the latest Victoria Beckham single*! (But surely it was some OTHER credible hip hop style artistes wot remixed her, like?)

I haven't heard the JC Chasez at all - has it even come out here?

*which is good as a ten second clip but hellish torture to sit through for four bluddy minutes whilst she writhes about in an ill-fitting dressing grown from la senza.

― Sarah (starry), Friday, 27 February 2004 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Liked it the first time but have hated it ever since. The video did not help matters.

Now that I've seen the album cover, my expectations are very very low.

― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 27 February 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

This is crap, it's made crapper by the fact it's going to be the final retarded drop of the penny for the general schlubs out there. I notice N*E*R*D are playing the big festival here this summer. Transition complete I guess. As if the whole dictionary of Neptunes descriptions "guns for hire", "superproducers", "magicians" hadn't become desperately hackneyed already, it's now time for a whole new sort of hack to use it ALL. OVER. AGAIN!!!!

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 27 February 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a bad song.

I expected much more.

― ben welsh (benwelsh), Friday, 27 February 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

ronan so otm there are impressions of abe lincoln on his ass cheeks

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 February 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

It's weak, but could be worse. Live instruments are lame.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 27 February 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Ronan/Jess/Tim all otm, this song is hideous and those guitar solos are especially awful. And Pharrell's smugness is reaching epic proportions.

It doesn't help when people write bullshit like this about them.

Fly or Die, he explains, is about nothing less than "the evolution of man. We can be optimistic - fly - or become extinct - die. We gotta keep moving forward." There is something dreamy, even spacey, about Williams. Like OutKast's Andre 3000, he is a hip-hop kook. An article by Kodwo Eshun, N*E*R*D and the Rise of New Geek Chic, hailed a new archetype, the smart, witty, literate black nerd who, ignoring the playas and thugs, flaunts his love of sci-fi and white rock'n'roll. The video to N*E*R*D's forthcoming single, She Likes to Move references Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. And Williams is delighted that Coldplay included a version of a Neptunes production, Nelly's Hot in Herre, in their set last year. "Coldplay and Radiohead specifically I'd like to work with," he tells me. "Thom Yorke is dope."

Fucking hell, that is retarded.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 27 February 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus, this place is retarted. I now agree with Jess et al that maybe the Neps have dropped off a little, but I don't see that working with Radiohead is necessarily bad at all. And not playing thug is also not necessarily bad. Making a big thing out of it, as Pharrell, regretably is, is a bad thing. But being so protective about pop music is laughable.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 27 February 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe I missed it, but how does "She Wants to Move" allude to "Bohemian Rhapsody"?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 February 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Enrique you'd be totally right if "She Wants To Move" wasn't crap. The problem is confirmation bias - a pop artist starts talking about rock/indie credibility and suddenly they start going to shit. It's not a rule, but it happens so inevitably that it feels like one.

(assuming it's not better than the single - which maybe I shouldn't cos I always thought "Lapdance" was a so-so cut) I have a feeling that the praise for the new N.E.R.D. album is going to annoy me even more than praise for the recent Missy album did. If this is pop-elitist I don't care.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 27 February 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Which is worse? Rockism or Pop-Elitism?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 February 2004 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Ism

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

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I haven't heard the Chad Kroeger/Santana collabo, but I assume the Neptunes' version of nu-salsa is WAY more fun.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course it wouldn't get the same reception because for a new band it'd be an insignificant bad single rather than a disappointment.

In the same way a carrot wouldn't be a carrot if it looked like a banana. Fuck sake!

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 March 2004 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

but I'm saying the song isn't bad, it's just not a classic! The qualities it has are being ignored because of the disappointment.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

All you seem to be saying is that people should have a less strict standard of quality, which makes little or no sense either. The nature of discourse is that people say they like or dislike something generally, if you're arguing for a more neutral approach to everything fair enough but it's not as though you display this yourself, or anyone else does really.

If you essentially don't like something there's not a great deal of point in going into what you think is good about it. The qualities something has are hardly the same for the other people on this thread as they are for you personally.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

miccio if you think anyone on ilx has a tendency to dismiss chart topping music or "not celebrate it passionately", i suggest you do a little search for "r. kelly" on ilm OR ile. if you think people have a tendency to dismiss the neptunes out of hand, please do a search for anything relating to the neptunes in 2001/2002.

this is still a shit song.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

(x-post to ronan)
I could quibble about every sentence of that post but the last one. It's clear that not all of you will give a song a passing grade just because of the spaceship line. But I sure as fuck will.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess: R. Kelly, as befitting a man who will likely not go to jail for peeing on schoolchildren, is an exception in sooo many ways.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

plus his critical love has only recently matched the commercial love. You're gonna turn on him on the next album, I know you will.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:13 (twenty-two years ago)

except for the first single, which you will grudgingly appreciate after hearing it on the radio 90 million times.

(luda basher)

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

that really doesnt make the second sentence go away though. you know, the part about ilx's love for the neptunes at the same time they were ALL OVER the charts. have you honestly been living under a rock for first FIVE YEARS of the neptunes?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

haha not knowing what ILX thought of Neptunes for the last 5 years = "living under a rock"

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

plus I'd argue that the Neptunes didn't reach full commercial dominance until, say, "Beautiful."

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

at least for me that's when shiny-on-top felt inescapable

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, that's what that meant. i'm just going to leave you to your ever more convoluted/involuted justifications for todays pet theory and hopefully you'll colapse in on yourself eventually like a star.

x-post: yeah, now i know you are clearly out of your mind.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

touchy

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm happy "that's when it felt inescapable" for you, but their actual chart placement and cultural ubiquity might have a little more to do with their actual commercial dominance.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I love this alternate universe where The Neptunes and Missy etc. are underground hipsters until they reach average joe punter with "Beautiful" and "Pass That Dutch".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It must be true, there weren't any blog posts on them until then. Er.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, that's what I meant, Tim.

when would you both argue the Neptunes hit their commercial saturation point?

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

oh thank god you guys showed up. i thought i had fallen down some rabbit hole there for a while.

x-post: uh "hot in herre" anyone?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

ok I was talking about Pharrell-as-star, not Pharrell-as-beatmaker

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I passed out before the last skit.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

But I knew it had the makings of a weak episode from that dire dire opening skit about the gay marriage. That has to be the worst and longest intro to a SNL that I've ever seen (not that I watch all of them or anything).

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

When Pharrell was in the videos and 13yrolds knew who he was I guess

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

so, 2001 then.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

if you're the least famous musical artist in a Harlem Nights homage then you have NOT achieved your dominance yet. So 2001 is out, baby. Though damn, I didn't realize its been that long since "Pass The Courvoisier." Time flies.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

again, for those of you playing along at home, today's pet theory is across-the-board critical acclaim + commercial inescepability = your ass is grass with the trainspotter crowd on ILM, with the exception of R. Kelly (who is beyond ALL laws) and the occasional case of grudging admiration (Missy + Timby!).

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

inescapability. I may be a mentalist but I can spell (when I bother), damn it.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

haha wtf does "across the board critical acclaim" even mean? do we really need to dig out all those n.e.r.d. articles from 2001? or the first batch of timbaland critical ass-kissing from 1998-2000? in that same era where both producers were making records selling, you know, millions of copies.

yr otm about the mentalist part, at least.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

across the board critical acclaim = pazz'n'jop whatnot.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

it's no more vague a concept than "commercial dominance"

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 15 March 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

so despite the fact that the neptunes (and timbaland) had been postively reviewed/covered in local and national and international rags for two-three years, they didnt achieve "across the board critical acclaim" until pazz & jop 2003?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

number of neptunes singles in p&j top 40:

00: 2
01: 3
02: 4
03: 4

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I count five in '02

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 15 March 2004 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)

well there we are then.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 15 March 2004 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Duh Strongo, "Cross the board critical acclaim" means "a hit with corny indie fuxx". Check your mentalist rockist dictionary, and then check Check Your Head!!!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 15 March 2004 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, it's hard to keep up with pop culture in big Eastern college towns, it's not the UK dance scene out there.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 15 March 2004 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I will confess that some of the This Is NOT A Test-indifference did seem a bit of "WHY ARE MISSY/TIM NOT CONSTANTLY INNOVATING LIKE THEY USED TO?" as opposed to just enjoying what is IMO a pretty good album (if perhaps a slight failure on some we TRIED to sound WAY OUT THERE but couldn't level) but the new NERD single and a large portion of the new Kelis album basically suck and that's the main reason why a lot of ILMers dismiss it. It's called not liking something cuz it's not very "good".

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

What about Jay-Z?

― Sym (shmuel), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

What about him?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

He generally got crit/commercial/ILM love, right?

― Sym (shmuel), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but he was always acknowledged as being wildly uneven.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 15 March 2004 05:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess is all aflame.

― Barima (Barima), Monday, 15 March 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone should just d/l Royce's Make Em Run with pharrell and Kelis and remember why Wanderland was so great.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 15 March 2004 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

The wings/back thing on that track is as chilling as Kelis' UFO Man.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 15 March 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

what's the name of the english r&b-pop group that the dancer in the video is in?

― petlover, Saturday, 19 November 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

I only heard "Can I Have It Like This" this week, and can't be bothered reviving the Skateboard P thread, so can I just say here that I absolutely loathe it. How can Pharrell have sunk so fucking low?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 20 November 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Mistique? But spelt like that or something.. maybe there are some z's in it somewhere..

― Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Sunday, 20 November 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Mis-Teeq?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 20 November 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

yes, that's who i was looking for. thank you!

― petlover, Sunday, 27 November 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

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