Brian Eno - C or D?

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I went through the archives, and I don't see this one anywhere.

So, have at it.

James Morris (HorrayJames), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic because he was the 70s avant-garde. Classic for Another Green World and Before And After Science, classic for his collaboration in Bowie's Berlin trilogy, classic for his record label which released the likes of Gavin Bryars, classic for so many things.

Jonathan Z., Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

here come the warm jets is the best pop album made by anyone (as of today).

Phoebe Dinsmore, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

yesterday i opened up the copy of here come the warm jets i had out of the library to find that in addition to the actual cd was a cdr copy of it. which was nice.

i remember the ambient stuff being way better than i expected, too, though i haven't heard it in a while.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Love 'another green world' and 'before and after science' (the last track on the latter was the last thing I heard that made me all warm and fuzzy inside). Like the ambient stuff.

Didn't care for 'heroes' from the one listen I gave it a couple of years ago.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Absolutely classic. Love his music (95% of it), love his productions (not just Talking Heads but also U2 and, damn it, James!), love his collaborations (with Bowie, John Cale, Harold Budd, Daniel Lanois...). Lately his ambient work has been a little bland but it's no less theory-based than some of the stuff in the '70s. His work with self-generating music may be more interesting than the results, but who knows what application it may have in a few years?

And I'm a sucker for the Wall of Eno vocals he adds to everything he works on. For a somewhat limited singer, he harmonizes with himself really well, from his one man band "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" to more recent stuff like "Someday" (that beautiful James song from the very underrated "Laid").

Anyone ever hear the NPR piece on "Once in a Lifetime," which details just what Eno brought to the track? He basically added the call and response chorus, worthy of the co-write credit. Eno also gets co-writer credit on "Heroes."

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic....if only for "Backwater" and "Needle in the Camel's Eye".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. It's hard for me to get interested enough in the question to argue the point, because I kind of take it for granted. That doesn't mean everything he has touched has turned to gold, but here are some reasons I rate him highly:

1. Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) (the only solo Eno album I am enthusiastic about in its entirety), as well as individual tracks on some of his other albums (especially Before and After Science).

2. His touch as producer on what are often the best albums of the bands he's worked with: Remain in Light, Bowie, Devo (I forgot this--using allmusic as a cheat-sheet now), etc.

3. Collaborations with: Fripp (although I would say say that Fripp carries most of the weight there--but still, I think Eno's presence counts), Jon Hassel, etc.

Etc. because I have to go.

3.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

4. Even some of his theoretical musings are worthwhile, especially that talk on using the recording studio as an instrument.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Didn't he admit to drinking his own urine recently? The man's not well.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, of course! "Julie with..." and "By This River" remain two of the prettiest songs I've ever heard.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Takign Tiger Mountain, Another Green World, Before and After Science, the synth climax on Virginia Plain, Remain in Light, Low, On Land and providing most of the redeeming features to make U2 a thousand times more bearable than every other vague anthem-monger are enough to qualify him as utter classic no matter how over-rated Warm Jets and Airports are and how crappy his solo output has been for about 20 years.

fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He drank his own urine in the "A year with swollen index" (or whatever) book from 1995, he'd watched a film, had a bottle of wine and couldn't be bothered to move to take a leak, so peed in the empty wine bottle, then wondered what it tasted like. As you do. I seem to remember this was related to his tale of finding a way to piss in Duchamp's toilet, or something like that.

Of course, the man and the vast majority of his music, and his influence, is classic. Couldn't live without "Taking tiger mountain" or "Music for airports" amongst others. Those two boxed sets are two of the best investments I've ever made.

Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That Passengers album ain't so bad either. Of its time 'n' all but still...

fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Been enjoying the hell out of Eno/Cale Wrong Way Up recently. It's a little dated in that 80s-ish "Let's Incorporate African Pop into Western Pop" kind of way, but all the simple songs get to me.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic.
"The Big Ship" from Another Green World puts me in a trance. Don't drive to it.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Plus there's all that stuff I enjoyed a lot at one time, even if I'm not into it now, like My Life in the Bush of Ghosts.

Plus the Obscure Music series, which has some good titles.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think one of the reasons i like him so much is that I am a child of Napster and the incessant dilettantism and boundary-pushing is something I can realte to.

fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. Here Comes The Warm Jets is the REAL Alien rock. Fuck Ziggy.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

If for nothing else "Another Green World"

Its just so coool. Weird pop and ambienty bits floated against each other in the nicest way, and my four year old loves to sing "I'll come running" which has got to get him some points somewhere.

hector (hector), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

1972-1985 inclusive, everything he touched. including the interviews, many of which are up on enoweb, but I'd buy a book that compiled them.

then, suddenly, like a switch being thrown...

when 'wrong way up' came out an interview disc was distributed to radio, where he's sounding and dull, then at the end he begins talking about the recent birth of his daughter and how unimportant the theoretical side of music had become to him, and how now he just wanted to relax and play tunes. which makes me happy for eno the man, but keeping up with the last decade of releases has been a punishing experience.

'spinning away' from 'wrong way up', still excellent though

(Jon L), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Unbelievable songwriter--I was in a one-off Eno cover band a couple of months ago, and we could not BELIEVE how much mileage he got out of incredibly simple structures. I mean, "The True Wheel"--that song has _four chords_ in it, and it sounds like the lushest deepest most complicated thing ever. "Third Uncle" has one.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

already embarrassed about my grumbly post. if I ever say anything about the 90's output, it's only because the 72-85 stretch is so bafflingly inspired. if I ever lost my record collection I'd be buying most of these back first.

(Jon L), Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I mean, "The True Wheel"--that song has _four chords_ in it, and it sounds like the lushest deepest most complicated thing ever.

"Uh-oh!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 02:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Strange, I've just sung through "The true wheel" in my head and can only count three... oh, just got to the end part where the fourth chord comes in. Sorry. My God, what a song!

"Ding ding!"

Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 23 January 2004 08:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Anyone that even cosiders sayind "dud" is loco. Amazing, influential, smartest man in music, etc. I want him to be my dad.

anode (anode), Friday, 23 January 2004 12:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
One thing I don't think I've said about Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy is that I got a copy* around the time that I had just about lost my belief in Christian doctrine, so it took on kind of a heavy symbolic weight of the scarey, uncertain, world of religious disbelief. (Obviously I hadn't only listened to Christian music up until then. That's not the point.) I want to exmphasize, this is a symbolic purpose I was giving it: I don't think it has much to do with the album itself (although it is kind of interesting in light of some things I've read by him essential outlining an anti-fundamentalism--of whatever source--stance). Just the cover itself took on a certain weight, and I wasn't totally happy about it. It didn't look like an especially happy world (and I've never been unambivalently attracted to hipster jadedness, if I've ever been attracted by it at all), but it seemed somewhat inevitable that I would be joining it. Graphically, it was: the cover of Taking Tiger Mountain vs. the dull blue cover of Cornelius Van Til's Defense of the Faith (given to me by my brother-in-law). I think I was more visually oriented then. Anyway, book covers or album covers could easily become suffused with an emotional coloring.


*I can't remember if I bought a copy or received it as a gift, but probably the latter. I used to get my older brother to buy me "weird"** records for my birthday and Christmas.

**I think he thought it was weird anyway (judging by his response to what I listened to on the radio), but I think he was a little amused to watch me growing up and getting into punk and new wave, and new bands he hadn't heard of, or other stuff that seemed esoteric to him. I think he may have bought me this album, the first Psychedelic Furs album, and Fripp's Let the Power Fall, and some a John Coltrane collection, all at my request. Now I'm getting all sentimental about my older brother. I miss being close to my family, and it's all Brian Eno's fault--well, not exactly.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 01:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Inspired by o. nate, sort of.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 01:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic!

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 02:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

that was a great post, rockist. thanks.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 02:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

xpost Interesting story rockist. Still, Taking Tiger is Brian Eno at his worst/most/annoying (lyrically) to me. What about the lyrics hit home for you?

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 02:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

It wasn't the lyrics, it was more the entire package (literally). I don't have a functional copy of the album right now, so I haven't heard it for a while.

Possibly the fact that I often couldn't make out the lyrics or didn't know what he was talking about contributed to my liking the songs. "With Burgundy, Tizer and Rye/Twelve sheets of foolscap: don't ask me why." I'm still largely in the dark about these lines, for example. I think I only found out what foolscap is in the last few years and I've already forgotten the details.

I kind of like the lyrics to "True Wheel." I am looking at a lyrics page now, and I find myself saying, oh, is that how it goes? I really am not even hearing what he's saying a lot of the time.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 02:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The lyrics are not the first thing I noticed about TTM(BS) either. I mean some of the lines (e.g., "burning airlines give you so much more") kind of stick in my mind, but I think that's more a function of being wedded to a good melody. I was in a bar where this guy I know works and he was playing songs from his iPod over the stereo. At one point I asked him, Is this the Thinking Fellers? And he said, no it's Brian Eno. Then later another song came on, and I asked him if it was the Swell Maps. Again it was Eno. It turns out both songs were on TTM(BS). That's when I knew I needed to hear the rest of the album.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 03:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

wow, yeah, hearing eno (after soo much indie stuff) really is amazing (and it seems like he just pulled half of it out of his ass) xpost

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 03:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, for all his instrumental music from the start to the end, and for 'A year With Swollen Appendices' (in my opinion anyway)

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 03:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm curious: is there anyone reading this thread who's never listened to Eno? Anyone been inspired to after all the hosannas here?

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 04:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I really haven't heard enough !!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 04:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I find "Put A Straw Under Baby" hilarious (as a fallen catholic). Taking Tiger Mountain is the only of his solo/pop records I like. for his ambient work - Music For Airports, Discreet Music, and the Fripp/Eno ones are great.

sherm, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i have two eno records.

music for airports = nice but forgettable, put aside after a couple of listens.

apollo = stunningly beautiful, one of my most played albums in recent times.

with this in mind, what next?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I had only heard some of his ambient stuff up until a few months ago! (not couting roxy music!)

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

x-post

try no pussyfooting, with fripp.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I rate his first 4 rock LPs classic. "Tiger Mountain" contains some of the best words I know. "Before and After Science" is very strong, esp. the "rhythm" side. As for the later stuff, I like "Nerve Net" and his collab with Cale "One Way Up." Not such a big fan of a lot of his ambient music, fine as it is. I'd put "Green World" and his Jon Hassell collab from '80 at the top of the list myself. Reading his diary I do get the impression he's a pretentious little guy, but he's done a lot so I suppose he earned it.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, for most of the reasons already stated. If you're interested, there is an excellent, but long, article by Lester Bangs on Eno. You can read it here:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/bangseno.html

erv (Abe Froman), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

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a musical genius, the godfather of Ambient, the mastermind of warm synthesis, although the cause of a lot of shit (ie damp snares in 80s music from Low) still one of the true heads!

A let me emphasize his Ambient series - i don't understand why anyone hasn't yet. On Land, man! and lets not mention the second side of Day of Radiance with Laraaji (the first side i admit being...well). Most of my feelings on Before and After Science, Another Green World have meen mentioned.

And on a last note, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts is fucking ingenius record :)

Rob McD (Rob McD), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

1st three solo albums are indespencable, punch your mom in the throat and steal money from her purse to buy these records, you need them. solo album #4 before and after sicence was an over considered creative disaster and not worth your hard earned record money, this record was why he stopped making rock records. after this you need anything he did with Harold Budd, you need Low by David Bowie, Oh Jesus Christ do you need Low by David Bowie, rob a bank get Low by David Bowie, pilfer from the sunday collection plate, knock over an old lady, buy a copy of Low by David Bowie, assasinate George W for Al Queda bounty money, decapitate a government contractor... whatever you need to do, get a copy of Low by David Bowie, you need Ambient 4: On Land, and Apollo, AM2 Plateau of Mirrors. Buy copies of Brian Eno and the vertical color of sound by Eric Tamm, and A Year With Swollen Appendices by Brian Eno, as these books will make your life infinitely more mysterious and interesting and delicious. Do what you need to do, I cannot force your hand, but seriously get the books, you will thank me later.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

christ, I drink a bunch of alcohol and then a bunch of coffee, and all of a sudden I cannot spell.

seriously, listen to the title track from Taking Tiger Mountain or the first track on Warm Jets and get back to me, you will be a convert y0.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You know what else I think? I think Kate Bush's The Dreaming bears a strange resemblance to Taking Tiger Mountain, thematically (all the secret agent drama, the Asian references). The lyrics aren't goofy the same way as Eno's, and the albums certainly don't sound the same, but the imaginary scenarios seem a bit similar (even if Eno's are more indeterminate).

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think I like The Dreaming again. I like almost everything at the moment. My brain may be overheated.

My neighbors must wonder what's up when they walk by my apartment door and hear me playing music with English lyrics.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I don't understand how anyone could be so hostile toward before and after science. I don't much like the first couple songs but c'mon, the second side is beautiful. julie with? by this river? these are undeniable!

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

absolutely, anthony. the second side of before + after science is the music i'd like to hear in my dreams.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

really cool! out of my price range, but i really hope a friend gets it so i can check it out someday

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:53 (four months ago) Permalink

Track list from the Astralwerks website

Music From Installations (previously unreleased):
01: ‘Kazakhstan’ [Premiered at the Asif Khan-designed installation ‘We Are Energy’ in the UK Pavilion at Astana Expo 2017 in Kazakhstan]
02: ‘The Ritan Bells’ [Premiered at an installation by Eno at Ritan Park in Beijing, China as part of the British Council’s ‘Sound in the City’ series, 2005.]
03: ‘Five Light Paintings’ [Premiered at an installation by Eno called ‘Pictures Of Venice’ at the Gallerie Cavallino, in Venice, Italy, 1985.]
04: ‘Flower Bells’ [Premiered at an installation by Eno called ‘Light Music’ at the Castello Svevo in Bari, Italy, 2017.]

77 Million Paintings (previously unreleased):
01: ‘77 Million Paintings’ [Premiered at the inaugural exhibition of ‘77 Million Paintings’ at La Foret Museum Tokyo, Japan, 2006.]

Lightness – Music For The Marble Palace (previously only available as a limited-run CD, via Enostore only):
01: ‘Atmospheric Lightness’
02: ‘Chamber Lightness’
[Premiered at the Eno installation ‘Lightness in the Marble Palace’ at The State Russian Museum in St Petersburg, Russia, 1997.]

I Dormienti / Kite Stories (previously only available as separate limited run CDs, via Enostore only):
01: ‘I Dormienti’ [Premiered at an eponymous installation by the Italian sculptor Mimmo Paladino at The Undercroft of The Roundhouse in London, 1999.]
02: ‘Kites I’
03: ‘Kites II’
04: ‘Kites III’
[Premiered at an installation by Brian Eno at the Kiasma Museum of Contemporary Art in Helsinki, Finland, 1999.]

Making Space (limited-run CD previously only available at Eno installations and on the Lumen website):
01: ‘Needle Click’
02: ‘Light Legs’
03: ‘Flora and Fauna’ / ‘Gleise 581d’
04: ‘New Moons’
05: ‘Vanadium’
06: ‘All The Stars Were Out’
07: ‘Hopeful Timean Intersect’
08: ‘World Without Wind’
09: ‘Delightful Universe (seen from above)’
[Compiled by Eno for sale exclusively at his installations, this was first made available while guest artistic director of the Brighton Festival, 2010.]

Music For Future Installations (previously unreleased):
01: ‘Unnoticed Planet’
02: ‘Liquidambar’
03: ‘Sour Evening (Complex Heaven 3)’
04: ‘Surbahar Sleeping Music’

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 04:13 (four months ago) Permalink

Unfortunately this is sold out:

https://www.bl.uk/events/brian-eno-music-for-installations

But this is ongoing, though typical of the British Library to not exactly shout it from the rooftops:

https://www.bl.uk/events/enoshop-pop-up

... everything from wallpaper music to wallpaper wallpaper!

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 12:13 (four months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

ICYMI, he's got his own twitter account now

On May 4, I will release Music For Installations, a massive box set of all the new, rare, or unreleased music I’ve written for various art installations from 1986 on. I plan to be tweeting about it.

— Brian Eno (@BrianEnoMusic) April 15, 2018

Jeff W, Sunday, 15 April 2018 17:56 (three months ago) Permalink

is it legit? dunno.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 April 2018 18:01 (three months ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/BrianEnoMusic/status/985579839821352960

Yeah I'm ENO who fucking cares

— Brian Eno (@BrianEnoMusic) April 4, 2018

seems legit to me

Karl Malone, Sunday, 15 April 2018 18:12 (three months ago) Permalink

haha not legit (though the box set is real)

tylerw, Sunday, 15 April 2018 18:12 (three months ago) Permalink

lol, that first tweet i posted (https://twitter.com/BrianEnoMusic/status/985579839821352960) was posted 4 minutes ago, and has already been deleted. it said something like "i'll do soundcloud reposts for $50 a pop"

Karl Malone, Sunday, 15 April 2018 18:13 (three months ago) Permalink

i wonder if someone DM'd them and told them that was illegal or something. i'm not sure if it is illegal to impersonate someone else and then offer to repost soundcloud songs for $50 a pop, but it would be a really interesting trial

Karl Malone, Sunday, 15 April 2018 18:14 (three months ago) Permalink

haha yeah, that might go beyond a "parody account" defense.
fake twitter accounts are pretty irritating — i've been seeing people reposting the Bill Murray one with something about Syria, saying "Bill is the best" etc.
Obviously a small thing to complain about, but still ...

tylerw, Sunday, 15 April 2018 18:20 (three months ago) Permalink

it's a contemporary example of the hyperreal

Karl Malone, Sunday, 15 April 2018 18:39 (three months ago) Permalink

i have 0 tolerance for fake accounts
like Brian Eno would say "who fucking cares"?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 15 April 2018 22:17 (three months ago) Permalink

man, i love brian eno, and i love Reflection, but goddammit brian eno you have to lower the price down from $30.99.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:30 (three months ago) Permalink

has anyone else read "A Year With Swollen Appendices"? I'm into late April and... it does not really paint a very flattering picture of the artist, imo.

sleeve, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:32 (three months ago) Permalink

which maybe is to his credit, like a warts-and-all approach? I dunno, I'm finding it disillusioning.

sleeve, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:33 (three months ago) Permalink

like he's already yelled at his kids and made them cry like three times

sleeve, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:33 (three months ago) Permalink

I bought the 2004 remaster of B&AS -- damn, so many instruments I hadn't heard before. Phil Collins is insane on "No One's Receiving."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:34 (three months ago) Permalink

has anyone else read "A Year With Swollen Appendices"? I'm into late April and... it does not really paint a very flattering picture of the artist, imo.

― sleeve,

I love the in-the-studio moments with Bowie and U2. I even enjoy the drinking-at-Bono's-chateau sections. In my early teaching days, I used his lecture on culture a couple times.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:34 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah I did really like the "Outside" parts, it's the personal stuff that grates

lots of great quotes and tossed-off ideas, for sure, and I love reading about his working methods and music theories

sleeve, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:37 (three months ago) Permalink

also those 2004 remasters are fantastic, agreed

sleeve, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:37 (three months ago) Permalink

like he's already yelled at his kids and made them cry like three times

― sleeve,

kids are annoying sometimes idk

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:39 (three months ago) Permalink

No CD version of the box set, huh?

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:46 (three months ago) Permalink

like he's already yelled at his kids and made them cry like three times
show me a parent who hasn't!

i read on some faraway beach and my worst impression was that he was an insufferable perv and probably a bit precious about his ideas
nothing severely offputting, or not enough to bother me

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:56 (three months ago) Permalink

that's closer to what grates on me, also just yr basic "first world problems" eyerolls

I should withhold further judgement until I finish it...

sleeve, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:59 (three months ago) Permalink

i give him a 1970s pass for crazy behavior
it's a merciful world if we are not all judged by how pervy we were at our worst!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 23:01 (three months ago) Permalink

Stay Pervy I say!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 23:50 (three months ago) Permalink

26th August:
Pissed into an empty bottle so I could continue watching Monty Python and suddenly thought 'I've never tasted my own piss', so I drank a little. It looked just like Orvieto Classico and tasted of nearly nothing.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 11:14 (three months ago) Permalink

It's a weird book for sure. His obsession with photoshopping female arses is a detail that sticks in my memory.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 12:51 (three months ago) Permalink

Worst part of Year With Swollen Appendices is him bitching about Graceland, tries to allege that Simon invaded his personal cultural space, ie, the white guy bringing African music to the masses... Pretty sure he uses the phrase “my personal garden” to refer to African music commercially released in the West.

Was ages ago that I read it but I remember my biggest lol being him complaining about a massive surplus of wibbly instrumental ambient CDs flooding the market, saying in response, I want words! I want messages! What kind of music offers that? Rap? Hmm, no not that...

sciatica, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 16:14 (three months ago) Permalink

omg wow
that's petty & gross
i think bitching in general is nagl

he needs to get a filter for his thoughts to filter these things out before he commits them to writing

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 16:42 (three months ago) Permalink

If you're not prepared to show us your warts, don't publish a diary.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 17:25 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah that's fair, I was just surprised that so much relatively unflattering stuff got left in

sleeve, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 17:28 (three months ago) Permalink

26th August:
Pissed into an empty bottle so I could continue watching Monty Python and suddenly thought 'I've never tasted my own piss', so I drank a little. It looked just like Orvieto Classico and tasted of nearly nothing.

LOL, yes I remember that bit. I always remember his Top Tip on how not to forget to save stuff you're working on on a computer, which was put a book on your head and every time it falls off, save. I've never done it though, but I'm not convinced Eno has either.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 17:28 (three months ago) Permalink

has he mentioned the book since or has he kind of disowned it?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 17:50 (three months ago) Permalink

I'd be surprised if he disowned it tbh

Heh xp everyone remembers the piss-drinking bit if nothing else, it is one of the top Brian Eno piss anecdotes (there are a few because eno is a piss guy)

scotti pruitti (wins), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 17:56 (three months ago) Permalink

I haven't read it in years but I don't remember him coming out of it too bad.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 18:04 (three months ago) Permalink

It’s mostly fine, lots of oh I could spend New Years Eve with Bono in Sarajevo but I’m just not feeling it, would love to shag his wife though, maybe next year? kinda stuff. He reveals he’s never been paid any royalties for Are We Not Men? Somewhere on ILM sexyDancer I think called him a “flouncing housewife” with basically no responsibilities and who’s never held to account and that seems accurate to me.

Also worth noting he writes a lot about the War Child charity which turned out to be a total scam a couple years later. He also gets rolled with some kind of elaborate gym membership after a lady trainer praises him. He published a diary too late imo, he’s mostly just a clueless rich asshole at this point, more than 20 years ago now...

sciatica, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 19:07 (three months ago) Permalink

Somewhere on ILM sexyDancer I think called him a “flouncing housewife” with basically no responsibilities and who’s never held to account and that seems accurate to me.

this sounds pretty sexist to me; to me he sounds like petulant (and gross) adolescent who hasn't realized that his every thought does not need to be seen/heard

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 19:12 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah sorry, search isn’t turning up the post I was thinking of so I’m probably misremembering, apologies to sexyDancer, your simile is much more accurate for sure

sciatica, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 19:17 (three months ago) Permalink

it's fine i just don't like the feminization of his behavior, which seems textbook brat to me. that is the word to comes to my mind at least.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 19:19 (three months ago) Permalink

sexydancer doesn't post anymore does he?

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 21:26 (three months ago) Permalink

Was War Child “a total scam”? Or was there some corruption in later years? Not sure why this would be a knock regardless as this article suggests the latter and that Pavarotti and Eno both resigned as a result:

https://www.theguardian.com/voluntary-sector-network/2017/apr/10/whistleblower-war-child-need-anonymity-corruption

Anyway, I loved Swollen Appendices BTW – for many of the reasons many seem to be criticizing it. The warts, the admitted ass-love, the dilettante-ism, the risotto recipes and doting dad stuff (doesn’t he take baths with his young daughters?). This was a pretty active time for him as well (Passengers, Wobble, Outside, early James sessions for Whiplash).

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 19 April 2018 22:35 (three months ago) Permalink

My favouritest part of the Eno diary when I was a teenager was when he railed against Saul from James and his inability to stick with a single good idea

I don't know why I liked that so much! I think I just wanted to be in James, instead of Saul

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 19 April 2018 23:50 (three months ago) Permalink

I was fascinated by the descriptions of the way Bowie worked on "Outside"

sleeve, Friday, 20 April 2018 00:47 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

So, the Music For Installations box...

Gorgeous throughout (unsurprisingly), quite varied in tone and intent (surprisingly), included book more or less distills Eno's whole worldview into a lovingly written record of his experiments with light and sound... anybody else enjoying?

Davey D, Thursday, 24 May 2018 04:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Your fellow davey has listened a few times. V much enjoyed

davey, Thursday, 24 May 2018 06:25 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Dumb plexiglass thing down to £182 from Amazon Italy for a short while (still £330 in the UK apparently)

https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07B627BXH/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=superdeluxe0d-21&linkId=576ac644ae89733e362c180a400f6ab8

MaresNest, Friday, 6 July 2018 21:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

meanwhile i am listening to it on Spotify for, like, pennies per hour

davey, Friday, 6 July 2018 21:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

damn at first i thought it was a link to some big plexiglass thing that turns your room into the No Pussyfooting cover

brimstead, Friday, 6 July 2018 21:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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